Glass Message Board
Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Andy on July 21, 2011, 12:44:07 PM
-
A large Black vase, with unusual Deco Silver overlay patterns .
Nicely made, bevilled edges, Im thinking Bohemian, maybe French or .....
Any suggestions?
Cheers
Andy
-
Definitely Bohemian, I agree.
-
Andy I don't know if you'll find it on here, but this site has an absolutely fabulous collection which may give you some ideas but will definitely make you envious :)
http://www.valerioartdeco.com/prod_gen.cfm?srow1=20&load=1001
Enjoy!
m
-
Thanks m,
nice stuff, nothing like mine, a couple of Loetz with applied silver, but im sure mines not a Loetz piece. :cry:
Andy
-
Ivo will know this probably and I have not a clue , but on another site I came across some vases by Hem. They are black with silver decoration. I've never heard of them and I wondered if all their pieces would be signed or whether your vase may have any similarities with them - or perhaps your base finish etc and the fact it is unsigned rules them out completely?
m
-
I just know because i have seen a collection of bulb vases in the same decor and those were def Bohemian - no hint to actual maker though.
-
Interesting link, however there are more than a few far more naturalistic based nouveau pieces on that site that pre-date either the european or U.S. Deco periods.
-
yes I didn't mean it was an Art Deco site, more that there was an interesting selection of glass on that site and they do have some Art Deco pieces as well.
The vases id'd as Hem and signed, I found on a specialist Art Deco site. They also do have Bohemian Art Deco pieces on there as well, however having now been through the whole site there is not anything there to give any leads unfortunately - sorry.
However, as Ivo has now said, he has actually seen a set of Bohemian vases with the same decor.
m
-
Never heard of Hem, did a google search and hemglass are a large icecream maker in Norway ;D
Tried again and found this, certainly similar,
http://1930.fr/recent-aquisitions/art-deco-hem-glass-box.html
and this one has tchecoslovakia on the base !
http://www.artdecocollection.com/1465_Art_Deco_Czech_Black_Modernist_Czech_Glass_Vase_by_HEM.htm
and one on this page,
http://www.sheryls-artdeco.co.uk/gls8.html
I think Hem could be a very likely attribution for my vase , shame mines not signed. I dont think that rules it out at all,
im sure its just the signed ones come up in a search .
Thanks Ivo and m ,
Ivo , is this a company you had not heard of before?
Cheers Andy
PS worth alook at sheryls art deco site, lots of nice european art dec glass( 23 pages).
http://www.sheryls-artdeco.co.uk/gls1.html
Ooh and on page 9 , a Hem vase, with very similar pattering to mine ;D
http://www.sheryls-artdeco.co.uk/gls9.html
-
I have not run into them before, not as a glass maker at least - so they may have been a refinery?
-
that's the site I found the Hem pieces on! it's gorgeous isn't it? :sun:
m
-
Maybe they did the silver work??
Another one on sheryls last page,
http://www.sheryls-artdeco.co.uk/gls23.html
Theres lots of good Art Deco glass on her site , a lot with signatures, i will keep the site for reference :thup:
-
Andy believe me I did not mean to be critical of you stating your piece was art deco...the linked site itself clearly states Art Deco & that was what I was commenting on, the site name. Your vase is decorated in a Deco style & the site certainly has a nice nice mix of Nouveau & Deco. Ken
-
The mark on the underside of the piece is believed to be a one of a couple of Kralik marks for export to France.
The reference to HEM, IMHO is likely a reference to the house that decorated the piece post production....
Craig
-
Andy I don't know if you'll find it on here, but this site has an absolutely fabulous collection which may give you some ideas but will definitely make you envious :)
http://www.valerioartdeco.com/prod_gen.cfm?srow1=20&load=1001
Interesting how one US antique dealer can have more quality pieces of french art deco than most french glass museums have in their collection.
Amazing collection. Not that I'm envious, or jealous or anything, noooo... they're probably fakes anyhow ;)
\bablo
-
I'm not really jealous ;D but I love that site -it's like going through a fabulous museum, beautifully photographed and easy on the eye. OTOH scary - no prices ;D. Last time I was in France we visited Chateau les Milande, the Chateau that Josephine Baker owned. It had the most incredible Art Deco bathroom. I can imagine many of those pieces in that Chateau.
m
-
Nice collection, but the prices are borderline fraudulent (IMHO). This piece by Owe Sandeberg:
http://www.valerioartdeco.com/prod_one.cfm?id=1223&srow1=30&altcat=broom
...is worth about £30, tops. Lamps by him usually sell for £40-£60 here in Sweden.
Best Regards
Emil
-
Emil, then I need you to go shopping for me please ;D
I just checked a lamp out on another site and it was $1,250.00
m
-
Sorry for hi-jacking the thread.
No problem, I'll find one for you if you pay me $750. "Special price for you my friend"...;)
http://www.tradera.com/Kosta-Lampa-Ove-Sandeberg-auktion_301938_135865292
http://www.tradera.com/Kosta-Lampa-Ove-Sandeberg-Tillfalle-auktion_301938_135664647
http://www.tradera.com/Lampfot-med-Skarm-KOSTA-107140-Bjornar-Sandeberg--auktion_301938_134701629
Ok, those were more than £40-£60, but it's definetly possible to find one within that price range.
Best Regards
Emil
-
I think we need to be careful using the word fraudulent. Overpricing isn't necessarily fraud. I'd suggest that "high priced" or "apparently overpriced" are more appropriate in this context. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud
-
Fair enough. Though "overpricing" is hardly the word when you have an item that should be £30 cost £1780.
Best Regards
Emil