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Glass Discussion & Research. No ID requests here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: rocco on July 21, 2011, 04:22:13 PM

Title: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: rocco on July 21, 2011, 04:22:13 PM
I was lucky last weekend and found my first Exbor fish :chky:
(Once again unmarked)

Life has not been very kind to this guy, as he is missing major parts of his back fins I guess -- but they have been quite nicely repaired (and I like the idea that some former owner cared so much for this piece of glass). I am still extremely happy and think he is a beauty nevertheless! :)

Here are the promised pics...

Michael
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Anik R on July 21, 2011, 04:34:27 PM
Oh Michael, he's absolutely, positively beautiful!  I love the colours, and everything about it... Such a lucky man!  And I do hope you will find a second, and a third, and then post them as they come along.

FANTASTIC!!!  :rah: :rah: :rah:

Edited to add:  Even my husband who despises 99% of the glass I show him says that your fish is a true beauty. ;D
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Max on July 21, 2011, 04:57:30 PM
and it looks like he's missing his back fins too, but he's still a very nice fish indeed!   :hiclp:
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: rocco on July 22, 2011, 11:38:06 AM
Thanks a lot for the nice comments!

I really do not mind much that the back fins are missing -- the rest of him is still beautiful...
I guess he was some sort of swordtail once, now he looks more like a carp :)

Funny thing is that I am not able to find Exbor pieces with the proper acid stamp; this is my 5th piece so far, 3 are unmarked, 1 has a Borocrystal mark, and 1 is marked "II" (so a second I guess).

Michael

Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Anik R on July 23, 2011, 04:31:42 AM
Does the 'II' on Exbor pieces really imply a second?

Back in April, there was a P. Hlava blue, yellow and clear cased vase (much like on page 115 of Hi Sklo) on offer on Allegro (as Murano) with a starting price of 150PLN.  It had a II at the bottom which confused me.  From what I could see, there was absolutely nothing wrong with the vase.  The piece went unsold.
(http://serve.mysmiley.net/confused/confused0070.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net)

Oh and Michael, even with the damage (which, honestly, I don't necessarily see), your fish is fabulous.
And I am jealous. ;D
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Jindra8526 on July 23, 2011, 03:50:44 PM
I have seen Exbor stamped Stanislav Honzik fish at Solihull fair.
Unfortunately Exbor fishes were produced for many years also recently - see catalogue from 2009

https://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/EgermannSRO2009Figures?authkey=Gv1sRgCMTE27Hrl5S2OQ#

Jindrich
www.cs-sklo.cz
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Anik R on July 23, 2011, 08:16:47 PM
Well, I'd even be perfectly happy with a fish from recent production...  They're beautiful, newer or older. ;D
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: rocco on July 24, 2011, 12:25:17 PM
Thanks, Anik and Jindrich!

Like Anik, I do not really mind if it is newer or older production - I think they are all great! :)
And impossible to find out anyway...

But my fish doesn't appear in the 2009 catalogue Jindrich kindly provided, so at least older than that.

BTW, this is very odd: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,17384.0.html (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,17384.0.html)

Michael

Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Anik R on July 24, 2011, 01:33:36 PM
Michael, there is a fish similar enough to yours in the the 1965/12 CGR: http://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/Glasrevue196512?authkey=Gv1sRgCOnBr_SphIi3hwE#5443269031071868082

As for the fish in the other link, I would have never thought 'Exbor'...  I wouldn't even have thought 'Czech'. (http://serve.mysmiley.net/confused/confused0048.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net)  
Is it really Exbor???
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: rocco on July 24, 2011, 02:19:13 PM
Thanks for the link, Anik!
There is a very similar one in the 1969 Exbor catalogue on Jindrich's site (with almost the same colours as in mine): http://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/EXBOR1969?authkey=Gv1sRgCLLirYHLk7vLCQ#5434393024940890002 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/EXBOR1969?authkey=Gv1sRgCLLirYHLk7vLCQ#5434393024940890002)

Regarding the link to the strange fish I posted above: I would think there has to be a mistake, as the last thing that one resembles is an Exbor fish :usd:

Michael
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Anik R on July 24, 2011, 02:30:51 PM
I've taken a look at Frank's Glass Zoo, and the bloated fish is there...  it's got an "Exbor Made in Czech Republic" label stuck to its lumpy-bumpy bottom.  It all seems very 'fishy'.

 :huh:
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: rocco on July 24, 2011, 03:59:39 PM
But even if it is made in Czech Republic, it seems far off...
I had a look throught the Exbor 2009 catalogues on Jindrich's site, but though there are many Chribska-like things there is nothing similar to that fish.

Michael

Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Michaela on August 15, 2011, 02:22:53 PM
I found another post - earlier Glassrevue http://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/Glasrevue195978?authkey=Gv1sRgCKak4vbYrNyvyQE#5439882094759969986
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Michaela on August 15, 2011, 04:34:37 PM
https://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/Glasrevue19651?authkey=Gv1sRgCL-IxP71mt3OsgE#5442562784759207282

https://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/Glasrevue196510?authkey=Gv1sRgCLeyyuyJsfnL6gE#5443239082124834466 4pages full of fish

https://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/Glasrevue196512?authkey=Gv1sRgCOnBr_SphIi3hwE#5443269031071868082
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Anik R on August 15, 2011, 07:53:42 PM
Hello Michaela and welcome to the Glass Message Board.

Do you collect Czech glass?  Have you got an Exbor fish?  (I'm still dreaming of finding one...  maybe one day...) Ah, questions, questions...

:hi:
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Michaela on August 15, 2011, 09:51:03 PM
Hello Anik :) I'm beginner...in comparison with you, collecting just for few months (6-8). In terms of fish I have 1 piece but common ZBS not Exbor :o) maybe one day ;)
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Anik R on August 16, 2011, 05:34:43 AM
I've been interested in glass for a bit over a year, so also a beginner. ;D
It's great to have another Czech glass collector on the board...  by the way, I love ZBS fish and animals.  I've got two fish and one owl-like creature.

Michael, I apologise for hijacking your thread. (http://serve.mysmiley.net/ashamed/ashamed0005.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-jumping-smileys.php)   Back to Exbor fish.
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Frank on August 16, 2011, 09:06:35 PM
A bit early to trash the blown fish, it was found at a time when Exbor was not a very well known company so dubious label addition is not highly likely. It is also a very well made fish of that popular genre, you have to compare like with like. To undo a label attribution you either prove the factory did not produce the item or identify another that did. Also best to discuss in original thread :girlcheer:
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: rocco on April 21, 2012, 03:04:11 PM
And another Exbor fish with chips ;D

Same colours as the first one, this one has the acid stamp and a very interesting label I haven't seen before (Grand Prix Expo 58...)

Michael
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Anik R on April 21, 2012, 07:27:21 PM
Two fish now?  I'm still waiting for my first one...  Michael, your third one will certainly be in perfect condition and a bargain -- at least, that's what I'm hoping. :)

Very nice find!
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: langhaugh on April 22, 2012, 06:36:20 AM
Now that's an interesting label on a beautiful fish. In Hi Sklo Lo Sklo it states that the idea for this fish came from the sculptures that Vera Liskova was doing for Moser and which were to be included in the World Exposition in Brussels. I wonder if this fish was sent there, too.

David
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: rocco on April 22, 2012, 01:09:58 PM
Thanks Anik and David!
I had to "rescue" him because he is such a nice companion for the other one :) (and he wasn't expensive, guess why)

I don't know if the label indicates that Exbor fish were sent to the Expo 58; I would rather guess that it just means something like "... pieces like this won us a Grand Prix in Brussels Expo..." (similar to some vases which were discussed on the Murano board recently). But I would think that Expo fame should indicate that this particular piece wasn't produced many years later.

On the other hand Exbor fish were shown in 1959 CGR issues already...

Michael
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: rocco on February 01, 2013, 01:36:59 PM
My third Exbor fish 8)

And my first in marvellous condition.
He is really beautiful, and as an added bonus has an "Exbor Czechoslovakia" acid stamp.

@ David: yours is stunning, great colours!

Michael

Thank you, B.!
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: johnphilip on February 01, 2013, 01:42:32 PM
Wow thats fabulouse , obviously a bottom feeder , perfect pose . Love it .
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Anik R on February 01, 2013, 04:28:48 PM
BEAUTIFUL, Michael!!!
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: rosieposie on February 01, 2013, 04:36:20 PM
These are all so beautiful, and the colours are so lovely.
Now I'm starting to think that it is time to add some fishes to my collection!
I was only going to collect birds, then added animals and then some humans, then a snail and a few frogs,  so I suppose I would be considered 'fishist' if I didn't have a few! 
I'll go and have a look see and see if there are any swimming around in the Bay of E!
Race you there Michael!! :)
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: johnphilip on February 01, 2013, 05:29:11 PM
Before Rosie sees it fabulouse was a typo , or maybe French
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: rocco on February 02, 2013, 12:13:43 PM
Il est fabuleux, n'est-ce pas ;)
Thanks for the nice comments!

Rosie, you have to add one or the other fish to your glass animal collection -- their streamline shapes with fluid lines are suited perfectly to be made of glass...

Michael
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: rosieposie on February 02, 2013, 01:02:32 PM
I will... promise Michael, and tell you all when I have got one....does an octopus count?  I have one of those made by Adam?  ;D
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: michajoli on July 01, 2015, 09:34:07 AM
Hi guys!

I recently found an Exbor fish on a fleamarket too. Only today i could ID it. Pics follow in a couple of minutes.
Here's an interesting site from an Exbor fish collector:
http://webtowork.com/exborfish/index.html

Regards
Micha
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: michajoli on July 01, 2015, 09:37:32 AM
pics of my fish (weight = 1,6kg / length = 32cm):

Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: michajoli on July 01, 2015, 09:39:20 AM
here a base pic:

Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 01, 2015, 10:07:27 AM
 ;D
Wow, thank-you so much for adding your pics. That is a glorious beast!
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: michajoli on July 01, 2015, 10:43:31 AM
Hi Sue!

I like it too :-)
Sadly has 2 small chips...

Regards
Micha
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 01, 2015, 12:00:24 PM
A real fish might well have a few nibbles out of its fins. I wouldn't worry about it. He's still stunningly beautiful - he looks as if he's underwater, swimming around.
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: michajoli on July 01, 2015, 12:50:57 PM
you are absolutely right :-)
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: rocco on July 01, 2015, 02:52:54 PM
Beautiful colours in your fish, Micha. :)

Michael
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: Anik R on July 01, 2015, 07:18:15 PM
Beautiful fish!
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: michajoli on July 02, 2015, 06:36:40 AM
thank you guys, and it was really a bargain :-)
Title: Re: My first Exbor fish...
Post by: johnphilip on July 05, 2015, 08:52:39 AM
Beautiful Michael , lets just call it a fish fillet . ;)