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Glass Discussion & Research. No ID requests here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: casalibre on October 16, 2011, 08:08:49 AM

Title: please help ID
Post by: casalibre on October 16, 2011, 08:08:49 AM
I am not sure, but  I think it is Murano.
Perhaps Fratelli Toso?

I will sell it on EBAY.
What will be the value?
Thanks and regards.
Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: Anne on October 16, 2011, 03:29:50 PM
Your post might do better with a more relevant title, see here for why:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,17458.0.html
Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: casalibre on October 16, 2011, 03:43:16 PM
Thanks for answering, but I do not understand what exactly I can make better  :phew: :phew: :phew:
Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: Anne on October 16, 2011, 03:56:42 PM
Your title simply says "please help ID" - which to be honest tells us nothing. Describe the item in a way that will catch the eye of someone who may know. Many folks don't look at topics which simply say "please help ID" as most folks who come here want to know what an item is. My Help topic link above explained clearly how to write a better title.
Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: casalibre on October 16, 2011, 04:40:03 PM
Very kind of you!
I am German and understand less then 50% what you mean!
I do not need any more help from you or the board because I do not want it.


Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: Wayne on October 16, 2011, 04:43:49 PM
What Anne was kindly trying to point out, is that if you made your title, for instance: "please help ID - is this bowl Murano / Fratelli Toso?" then people who are into that kind of glass, are more likely to click on the topic and help you out, rather than passing it by.  :thup:
Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: rosieposie on October 16, 2011, 04:45:25 PM
Hi casalibre,  the title is the bit that catches our attention....like an eBay listing title.  If you were to put something like
 'Is this a 'tuttifrutti' dish and possibly a Fratelli Toso piece?'  then all the Murano boffins would be looking at it......
Do you see what Anne means now?  It just helps you to get a quicker, wider audience for your piece.
We tend not to give valuations, but once you have more information about it,  you will be better able to judge it against other pieces that have sold on eBay and make a price decision for yourself.
Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: rosieposie on October 16, 2011, 04:46:37 PM
Ooops!  Sorry Wayne we have just clashed a little with timing, but basically have the same message.  :)
Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: casalibre on October 16, 2011, 04:47:32 PM
Forget it!
Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: Wayne on October 16, 2011, 04:55:25 PM
Umm you do realise every reply has been a polite attempt to help you?  I'm not sure why you have turned abusive.  :huh:  For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure it is Murano, but I doubt it is Fratelli Toso.  Someone with more knowledge might know more.  They are more likely to find this topic and give you a definite answer if the title was improved, which is what we are trying to say.   :thup:
Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: casalibre on October 16, 2011, 05:43:48 PM
I do not need this friendly GMB anymore!
Thanks for the answers.
Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: antiquerose123 on October 17, 2011, 01:42:30 AM
I do not need this friendly GMB anymore!
Thanks for the answers.

Hi casalibre:

Anne (the MOD) here was trying to help you.  What would the board be like IF everyone posted topic said "Please Help ID".  It would be a little boring.  Anne was clearly asking that you make the topic heading more Descriptive like maybe:

~ Murano?  Gold Flakes
~ Please Help ID?  Fratelli Toso maybe?
~  Fratelli Toso, or Not ?
~ Bowl with Silver Flakes in it

...etc...etc....

That way the people that are into that type of glass will look at it.  I has a lopsided glass Bowl one time and I figured it was a good piece of Glass, so to *catch* people eyes I joking put the title as "Glass on Drugs??"  because it was lopsided.     Then lots of people *wanted* to look to see what my piece of glass might be.   Just like on Ebay, you *upsell* your description of an item so the title will catch people eyes.  That was all Anne was trying to do.  We all started here at one time, and I think you owe her an apology, IMHO.  I like to make my titles as *catchy* as possilbe.  I just posted an topic here entitled "Starry Night meets Chop Suey".  As lots of members KNOW starry night is a Fratellli Toso piece....so they wondered about the Chop Suey part.  Have some FUN with your Topics, as we are a non-violent group here.  WE like to laugh, and be a friendly people  :24: :thup:




Now about you bowl.....

I am not sure if it is Fratelli Toso or not......but I do believe it is Murano.  For some funny reason AVEM as the maker pops into my Head, and I think this *might* be called Tutti Frutti -- but I am not sure.  This is only my educated *guess* here

http://www.modernistglass.com/glasspieces/view/1699/murano-freeform-tuttifrutti-bowl-attributed-to-avem (http://www.modernistglass.com/glasspieces/view/1699/murano-freeform-tuttifrutti-bowl-attributed-to-avem) ???????????????

Again we do not give prices here.  Once a person has an ID they can research *variable* prices on the Net from High to low -- and go with what they feel comfortable with.    If you sell on Ebay, I do hope you are not rude to buyers if they ask for simple questions too about any item, or WHY you have the title listed as such.


I hope that Helps some for your bowl......and I really think you should give Anne (our MOD)  :no: here, an apology.    We are here to enjoy the Board !!! :kissy:

Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: TxSilver on October 17, 2011, 01:59:13 AM
You're right, Rose. It is Murano. These type bowls can be difficult to attribute once they lose their labels. Some of the companies that made them include AVeM, Ferro Italarts, Fratelli Toso, and a company that made glass for JICo. I usually don't even try to attribute them, just call them Murano tutti-frutti or cane scrambles. They aren't selling for much right now in the US, casalibre, but the market in Europe is better. Most of these bowls were made in the 1950-early 60s, so they are good vintage glass.
Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: jonchellycain on October 17, 2011, 08:01:16 AM
if its the language you dont understand here is a conversion site
wenn sein die Sprache, die Sie nicht hier verstehen, ein Umwandlungsaufstellungsort ist

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/
Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: casalibre on October 17, 2011, 09:06:18 AM
OK
Now I am understand:
I have to make the topic heading more descriptive, this was my fault.
Scusi!
I presume also what texsilver presumes, that the item is Arte vetraia Muranese/AVeM  or Toso.
Many thanks
Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: rosieposie on October 17, 2011, 09:44:59 AM
'Scusi' accepted Lenotschka,  :)  and I hope you will visit again soon.  :hi:
You might be able to help us with some of the German glass questions here.  :sun:
Title: Re: please help ID
Post by: kane_u_pain on October 19, 2011, 08:22:48 AM
Titles help immensly...people are time poor these days so something that says 'I should look at this' helps with people like us...