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Title: unusual WMF ice bucket
Post by: RAY on March 17, 2006, 10:59:46 PM
this was the only piece of glass i got from Egypt this time, measures 5" high and 5" across, it made to look like ice, the rim and handle are of heavy silver plate in the art deco style, it's stamped WMF but it's is worn, the surface is very rough and looks like bits of glass were thrown on to the surface before in went in to the mould for the second time, looks like  Monart Cloisonne style, most likely done in the same way and the inner is very smooth  with a rough ground base, has anyone got any other pieces?

Title: unusual WMF ice bucket
Post by: Frank on March 18, 2006, 12:08:36 AM
Found the cats. Appears in 1936 Metalware as model number 2331 but that has no silver plate in. In their plate catalogues for 1920's and 36-9 it does not show. I have a gap from 1930 to 1935 and it must have been introduced in that period. 37 might have been its withdrawal year.
Title: unusual WMF ice bucket
Post by: Ivo on March 18, 2006, 06:54:20 AM
these are not rare, I see them regularly. There is also one in Miller's Glass of the '20s and '30s, page 53.
Title: unusual WMF ice bucket
Post by: Frank on March 18, 2006, 10:25:52 AM
Have you seen the ones with silver plate or those with nickel rims?
Title: unusual WMF ice bucket
Post by: RAY on March 18, 2006, 12:12:08 PM
i've looked in the millers guide and it's say's they should have a liner, but you would struggle putting a liner in due to the mould pattern inside
Title: unusual WMF ice bucket
Post by: Frank on March 18, 2006, 03:41:49 PM
No sign of a liner in the WMF catalogue. One puzzle is that both designs have a note "mit Rost", literally meaning with rust, which makes no sense at all.

Perhaps the silver rimmed version has a liner? Is yours marked as silver plate?
Title: unusual WMF ice bucket
Post by: RAY on March 18, 2006, 06:23:56 PM
no silver plate mark it's just stamped as in the photo WMF
Title: unusual WMF ice bucket
Post by: Frank on March 18, 2006, 06:53:21 PM
In which case it is almost certainly Nickel silver and not plate. Meanwhile solved the 'mit rost' which is basically a grill that fits in the bottom.