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Title: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 10, 2012, 03:07:26 PM
If nobody else wants to start part 2, I will have to. ;D

One more Stahlikova PN 54108, another nice colourway.
Plus a "group" shot.

Thanks for looking,
Michael

P.S.: Anik, can you show that interesting cylindrical vase with protrusions? Is it a Zertova design? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 10, 2012, 07:15:25 PM
Oooo, a part II Skrdlovice thread. Michael your vase pair is a nice start!

The vase I think you are referring to is a J. Zertova, designed in 1968.  It is one of my very favourite pieces from my collection.  (I'm currently bidding on a green one which I do hope to win.)

Forgive me, but my photos are smallish and a bit blurred.  I've been fighting with my camera. There are too many buttons and too little space in my head to know what I'm doing. Sigh.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on May 11, 2012, 05:43:44 AM
Very nice both of you.  I've only added a very modest little ribbon vase to Skrdlovice lately. Can't quite compete with you two. I did get a good Suhajek with an Exbor label, though. Of course, I wouldn't sully this thread by putting it here.

David


Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 11, 2012, 10:08:33 AM
Anik, the Zertova piece is very good -- I have never seen it before (apart from the catalogues), and I didn't know it was made in coloured cased glass... I hope you get the green one! :)

David, I checked out your gallery -- the Suhajek piece is great as well.
Did you manage to aquire that nice little opaque Stahlikova vase which was on the board some time ago?

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on May 11, 2012, 01:54:24 PM
Michael, if it's the cut piece you're thinking of, then, no.


David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 11, 2012, 02:15:42 PM
Not a cut piece, I was thinking of this one (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,46839).

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on May 11, 2012, 02:35:29 PM
I'd forgotten about that one. I never did get a reply from the owner, so, unfortunately, no.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 11, 2012, 02:48:25 PM
Well, pity -- it would have been a nice addition to one of our collections...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 14, 2012, 07:15:02 PM
It is one of my very favourite pieces from my collection.  (I'm currently bidding on a green one which I do hope to win.)

Weep weep... sniffle sniffle.  Didn't win the green Zertova.

Instead, I'll show my lovely topaz Vizner 7124 which I got a few weeks back.  I did have a green one, but I sold it in favour of a brownish one.  (Again, my photo is on the smallish side. Sorry.)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 14, 2012, 09:17:05 PM
Sorry that you didn't win the Zertova piece.

Very nicely coloured Vizner vase, Anik.
These really are impressive pieces...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 16, 2012, 05:31:49 PM
Two Vizner pieces have found their way into my Skrdlovice collection today... a pineapple (7117) in a really great colour, and a clear ball vase (7048).  I'm extremely pleased.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on May 16, 2012, 05:45:04 PM
Really attractive pieces Anik, the light brown of the core really works well in the pineapple Vizner piece. Langhaugh has a fantastic tall version that shows this contrast and I have a similar one to yours, it makes a dazzling effect when sunlight hits it. The ball vase is great too. I like these pieces a lot.

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 16, 2012, 06:26:12 PM
Very nice additions, Anik, no wonder you are very pleased :)
Your collection seems to focus on Mr Vizner...

I saw a beautiful massive green cone shaped vase similar to your ball vase 2 weeks ago, but the seller was convinced it was 1950s Murano and worth 250,- Euro, so I had to pass.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 16, 2012, 07:58:57 PM
Thank you Robert and Michael.

I've now got 10 Vizners in my collection and approximately 50 Skrdlovice items in all (closer to 60 if I include my stupendously fabulous Exnar animals which all of you are really envious about, but don't want to admit it. Lol.)   

My Skrdlovice is growing nicely.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on May 18, 2012, 12:12:14 PM
OK, it's post 1993, PN 9413 to be precise, by Jan Konank for Beranek Glass, but I assume Beranek glass is also welcome in this thread? My latest acquisition (maybe I should add my earlier acquired Skrdlovices as well).

It's massive, big and one of the heaviest vases in my collection, but I love it, despite the somewhat later design date.

Astrid

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 18, 2012, 12:24:30 PM
Astrid, that's a wonderful design and in great colours.  As for me, it makes no difference if it's an earlier (Skrdlovice) or later (i.e. Beranek) piece. I can be smitten by both.

P.S. I'm so happy that you've decided to join this thread. :)

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on May 18, 2012, 03:14:59 PM
Well, I do collect enough Skrdlovice to be able to add something, though my collection isn't as impressive as Michael, David and yours. This piece was my 15th bit of Skrdlovice/Beranek (and 96th bit of Czech glass).

Maybe we'll find enough Skrdlovice collectors to start doing a 'map the skrdlovice drawings per design number with photographs of the finished object' project...

Astrid

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 18, 2012, 03:37:51 PM
Astrid -- great you joined our thread!

We have already covered a wide span of designs from the 1940s to 1990s, but many are still missing -- and your Konarik vase (despite of being very attractive) is another style we haven't had before...
So thanks for showing.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 20, 2012, 03:23:46 PM
Jindrich Beranek, PN 5656 (the shorter version of my blue and green vase (https://picasaweb.google.com/107330317087089352634/Czech?authkey=Gv1sRgCPCtsYSivPC5Dg#5722764682296686210)).

Also featured in the book "Modern Bohemian Glass", 1963 (https://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/ModernBohemianGlassArtia1963?authkey=Gv1sRgCIfKjerM-NrVDA#5580926042568722434)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 20, 2012, 04:19:47 PM
That's a lovely little thing, Michael.   

I must admit, I get very confused with 50s Skrdlovice designs, and more often than not, can't grasp the subtle (and not so subtle) differences between patterns.  I do think that the 5656 is the rounder, ball-shaped version of this design while the 5678 is more elongated (like your blue one).

Whichever it is, were they made in more than 1 size?  (I wouldn't recognise your latest addition as the Jindrich Beranek.  :-[) 

Anik (feeling rather stupid)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 20, 2012, 05:30:25 PM
Anik, thanks for your input! :)
I have not thought a second that this could be a different pattern than 5656 (which doesn't mean that I am right).
It is only 12 cm high, so smaller than the one pictured in the book I linked to.

But I think the "S"-shaped hotworked decoration of both pieces is quite distinctive (and matches the drawing perfectly); pics of these hotworked patterns are a little bit misleading due to the distortions through the thick glass...
If you compare the drawing of the 5678 in the pattern book with my blue vase the shape is quite different as well.

It is already the second of these smaller ones I have seen here, and the other one was almost identical, a little bit more ball-shaped perhaps.

BTW, I could have bought one of those 4-footed Zemek bowls yesterday, but I resisted...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on May 21, 2012, 06:26:07 PM
To my eye this is not really a straight match for the Jindrich vase as seen in other examples of this pattern, I agree the blue and green one is, as are the more common dark green ones. Even the Raban book has a near accurate attribution except for the date(!) and perhaps height even.


This example could be a reverse of the Jindrich pattern, at an angle, almost a mirror image in my opinion, which I have seen occasionally for other patterns, but I don't see it as a straight match for the ordinary Jindrich pattern, I tend to sympathise with Aniks comment.

This is at least the second time in this long, enjoyable  thread I have been uncertain about attributions. This is an issue, because, unlike normal GMB individual posts about pieces, where we are free to discuss and have filed separately attributions, discussions being sandwiched here in a long thread, makes it seem not so free and easy to discuss attributions, which makes me more cautious about commenting on Skrdlovice within this thread (other than on obvious pieces). I would rather comment about attribution in an attribution thread....... tricky... (though I am sure it is a Skrdlovice piece.....)

I am not sure if it would be more efficient to post Skrdlovice pieces separately, before being added to a Skrdlovice thread or something by moderators...... certainly I can see this issue happening again, I hope my point can be understood.... it is not a major issue affecting most of the posts but is relevant to a few. There will eventually be a post that is not even Skrdlovice and mods may be asked to remove it! But ambiguous or unusual attributions may deserve their own posts.... commenting on attributions within this post seems slightly difficult to me, I hope this is clear. I would add that I think the thread is generally accurate and impressive and enjoyable, 

all the best

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 22, 2012, 07:42:06 AM
Oops.
Thanks for setting me straight, Robert!

Now I am feeling really stupid.
I had thought I was quite good in attributing 1950s Skrdlovice (and I am sure we all agree that's what this little vase is).

I didn't even realize that the pattern was the other way round. ::) I only seemed to follow the general idea of the design (which is not very different to the Jindrich Beranek pattern).

I will be more cautious in my future attributions, and I think it is a good idea to start an ID thread if the pattern is not easily recognizable.
But on the whole I agree that the thread is very accurate; not a single non-Skrdlovice/Beranek piece in it I am sure, and usually the correct PNs as well.
My two other pieces which escaped ID so far, both labeled, are my beautiful tall vase (https://picasaweb.google.com/107330317087089352634/Czech?authkey=Gv1sRgCPCtsYSivPC5Dg#5623286161921174018) and this flattened vase (https://picasaweb.google.com/107330317087089352634/Czech?authkey=Gv1sRgCPCtsYSivPC5Dg#5734214720688085714) David and I have discussed in a different thread (I was doing hazardous attributions. Again.)

I do hope that you will still contribute a lot in this thread, Robert!

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on May 22, 2012, 09:44:21 AM
Thanks Michael, it is, as all Skrdlovice collectors would agree a 50's Skrdlovice piece, many of us have pieces that are hard to attribute for certain from this period, I have a couple of difficult ones and so does David and Anik in their collections. I think variability of hand made production is responsible in most cases and a few pieces may never be completely "solved," happily, most can be,

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 26, 2012, 04:09:40 PM
I was very happy to get a Petr Hora 7911 bowl which matches the vase I got back in December (pictured below).  It's a massive piece -- 8cm tall, 12,5cm wide and weighs 1985g. The glass is 2,5cm thick.

It has got a bruise midway down, but no one has to know...
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on May 26, 2012, 05:13:31 PM
The bruise doesn't diminish my admiration, Anik.  Michael and you are collecting at a furious pace right now.  A lovely piece, and both collections are getting to be very good.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on May 27, 2012, 11:53:46 AM
I've acquired a 6913 (at least I think it is...) by Rudolf Beranek, to accompany my 6915 that I already had in my collection (which I'll add to the thread as well, since we haven't had one in it yet I believe). The base colour of my 6915 bowl is light blue, the vase 6913 is clear.

The only thing that bothers me slightly is that the size of the 6913 vase should be 33 cm according to the patternbook, but mine is much smaller, around 20 cm high. Can't remember if that was ever discussed here...

Astrid

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 27, 2012, 02:28:01 PM
Anik, lovely bowl!
I can live with bruises on my favourite pieces... (And I even overpaid for a slightly chipped piece just because I had to have it :) )

Astrid, that Beranek design is strangely attractive; I have never seen a piece from this range in reality...
I would think the PN could be 6914 / 21 (though I don't know why there is no picture to this number in the pattern book).

David, thanks for the kind words - but looking at your gallery I am convinced I will never catch up (but I will try ;D)
At the moment I am focussing a little on my German glass collection -- until the next piece of Skrdlovice comes my way.
BTW, is that stunning strapped Zertova vase a new purchase, or did it just escape my attention?

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on May 29, 2012, 06:11:46 AM
Michael,

You have a very sharp eye. No wonder you pick up those great pieces in flea markets. Yes, the Zertova is a recent acquisition.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on June 02, 2012, 09:19:22 AM
My latest Skrdlovice acquistion, 29 cm high.

I have no doubt whatsoever it is Skrdlovice, and I was almost sure it was Frantisek Vizner, a variation on his 7117 pattern or some later number by his design, but when looking for it I noticed the Ladislav Oliva design 7702 (28 cm high) it looked like it could be a match. I'm not entirely sure though.

It would be ironic if it were by Oliva, since I've been trying to acquire something by him for months now, and when I bought it I was 95% sure I was buying Vizner :) Though, of course, the style would be quite influenced by Vizner.

Anyway, Sypka auctions seems to think this type of pattern is by Oliva: http://www.sypka.cz/vaza-model-c-7702-navrh-r-1977/a56/d12835/

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 02, 2012, 10:41:05 AM
Astrid, great piece! I would think that the Oliva attribution is correct -- but wait what the experts say...

If the vase comes from ebay, I have seen it too, and was quite tempted to bid on it (but decided to go for the Ichendorf piece)

I can only show two new purchases (nice, but nothing spectacular):
- small Jaroslav Beranek "Andromeda" vase, 12.5 cm high
- Emanuel Beranek vase, 23 cm high (I guess PN 5987, though the hole is in the wrong place)

And I have to admit that I suffered a severe attack of jealousy today when I browsed through David's gallery and saw his new Vizner vase 8)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on June 02, 2012, 11:53:45 AM
If the vase comes from ebay, I have seen it too, and was quite tempted to bid on it (but decided to go for the Ichendorf piece)
Michael

Ha, when I'm bidding on something like this I always wonder if I'm up against other forum members.

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on June 02, 2012, 12:50:46 PM
Astrid, wonderful vase!  My first thought was Vizner as well, but with a bit of searching, I think Oliva is correct:   1989 Skrdlovice Glassexport catalogue (https://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/SkrdloviceGlassexport1989?authkey=Gv1sRgCMqW0Lz7qcHkzgE#5514573816769524514)

Michael I really like your little 'Andromeda'... I've got one in clear, but I much prefer the colours in yours.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on June 02, 2012, 02:26:27 PM
Astrid,

For what it's worth, I see it as the Oliva, too.  I 'll bet it looks fabulous on display. It's big and beautiful.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on June 05, 2012, 02:09:15 PM
I'm so happy with my newest buy... a Roubicek 7212/17 just like the one David posted in the original 'Skrdlovice' thread.  I thought it looked appealing in photographs, but in real life, it's even better. 
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 05, 2012, 05:10:11 PM
Lovely.
I want one, too 8)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 07, 2012, 02:35:30 PM
Quite an unusual piece of (late) Skrdlovice added to my collection:

PN 8803, by Czech studio glass artist Jaroslav Matous.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on June 07, 2012, 02:47:22 PM
That is unusual!  The drawing in the designs book has less rounded 'things' in the neck, but the 8803 in the  1989 Skrdlovice Glassexport (https://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/SkrdloviceGlassexport1989?authkey=Gv1sRgCMqW0Lz7qcHkzgE#5514574962884712450) catalogue is similar to yours. 

To be honest, without a label I don't think I would have recognised it.  Well done, Michael -- an odd-looking piece is always a good piece to have.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 07, 2012, 03:03:08 PM
Without the label I probably wouldn't have recongnized it either ;D

Each of the pieces from this range seems to differ widely -> Link to a pic from the Pardubice exhibition on Jindrich's site (http://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/MagicOfGlass3?authkey=Gv1sRgCObJqrf-rcTALw#5425005280774564706).
I like the shape, but would have prefered to find one which is more "transparent"...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on June 08, 2012, 01:47:44 AM
Unusual addition, Michael. Very unSkrdlovice-like, if there is such an animal.  Interesting the range of variations, too.  I'm coming to see the pattern books as more of a rough guide than a tight prescription.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 08, 2012, 06:56:09 AM
I wonder if it was the conception of this range to provide a unique decor to each piece ???
If you look at the pic in the 1989 Skrdlovice Glassexport (https://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/SkrdloviceGlassexport1989?authkey=Gv1sRgCMqW0Lz7qcHkzgE#5514574962884712450) Anik linked to, both pieces on the left have the same PN, but even the shapes differ widely...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on June 08, 2012, 07:17:50 AM
I was wondering the same thing.  All three vases in the catalogue are different, yet two share the same pattern number.  In the  Beranek catalogue (https://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/BeranekGlassworks?authkey=Gv1sRgCOvIkvmg7-zidA#5448897919551520242) the 8803 has got an additional 'lip' at the top, making it another variation of the same piece. 
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 09, 2012, 10:39:45 AM
Yes, a little bit confusing...
I had thought that by the late 1980s there wouldn't be as much variation as in the 1950s.

Another humble addition from today's fleamarket (rainy day, lots of glass for me ;D)

Emanuel Beranek, PN 5963 (I think), 17 cm high

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on June 10, 2012, 01:14:48 AM
Looks to be in great shape.  Interesting how different the colour can be in these pieces

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on June 10, 2012, 05:32:15 AM
Yes, I've seen several green-aqua or purple-green versions of pieces like that, but not many in this sort of colour.

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 10, 2012, 06:18:38 AM
The sparingly used colours -- one small splotch of red, one streak of blue -- seems a little bit unusual.
(When I spotted the vase, I wasn't entirely sure if it was Skrdlovice, until I saw the label)

David, yours (https://picasaweb.google.com/lasilove/CzechoslovakiaSkrdlovice#5496828403145494738) is rather similar with just the pink at the inside. BTW, is it mirrored to mine, or am I interpreting the pic wrongly?

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on June 10, 2012, 07:44:59 AM
David and Rocco's are two similar but different patterns, I have the same pattern as Rocco, which he has correctly attributed,


Robert (bOBA)

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on June 10, 2012, 08:39:15 AM
I did manage to enlarge my Skrdlovice collection this week... since I bought a few pieces from Anik, I won't bother to repost them as she already mentioned them in this thread. But a found a variation of the 85 Roubicek. I don't think I would have noticed it at all if a similar piece hadn't been mentioned in this thread. Pattern 8526:

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 10, 2012, 11:21:52 AM
Thanks Robert for the additional info!

Here it becomes obvious again that I should be careful with attributing patterns: I would have sworn that David's and your vase share the same PN...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on June 10, 2012, 03:01:18 PM
Rocco I may have been confused (none of us are always right!!!). Your estimation of a flip on this pattern may be correct. I was thinking of the similar pattern 5987 which you do see in blue, green, and topas etc, which is a larger vase, not this one. Davids' vase had confused me for a while because it is a flip-mirror of the pattern.... and does not seem to have the blue as illustrated in the pattern (unlike ours) but the variability of hand made production makes a variant of 5963 the best estimate I guess..... as the height is correct...... even though it is a mirror image of the shape.... this is seen occasionally.... apologies for any confusion.......

Robert (bOBA)

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 10, 2012, 03:32:08 PM
No need to apologize -- these mirrored pattern are confusing, and many of these Emanuel Berank designs do look so similar to each other...
I showed a blue and green vase (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,47490.msg269301.html#msg269301) last week, which I assumed is the Emanuel Beranek PN 5987 (although a little different to the drawing in the book as well regarding the position of the hole)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on June 11, 2012, 06:38:26 AM
Hi,  My piece does have a little blue in it, not apparent in my Picasa pictures and which you can only catch fleeting glimpses of unless you look at the piece from the bottom.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 21, 2012, 04:41:36 PM
Grown by one again, a small but nice piece:
Jirina Zertova ashtray, PN 6029, in quite an interesting colourway (light green cased in amethyst, which makes the whole piece look sort of grey)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on June 22, 2012, 04:29:07 AM
Another great find, Michael, one that certainly make my week.  Zertova's design are very good and this a really effective colourway.  A great collection is made one piece at a time.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on June 25, 2012, 11:23:49 AM
Last week, I won a Jan Beranek 5988 on ebay which is also very light green cased in amethyst.  I love the colours, but I never expected my piece to glow.   
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 28, 2012, 03:42:37 PM
Anik, nice vase in a really nice colourway, I love it, too :) I have this amethyst colour only in my two Zertova pieces so far...

So do all green Skrdlovice pieces from this period contain Uranium? -- Will have to test my collection.

Thanks David, I totally agree that Zertova's designs are very desirable, but unfortunately (apart from this bubbly range) really hard to find...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on June 28, 2012, 04:19:03 PM
Not all green 50s Skrdlovice contain uranium.  I've got an Emanuel Beranek vase from 1954 in the same wonderful green-cased-in-amethyst colourway as the one I posted above, but it doesn't have one hint of  a glow. I've also got a bluish-green vase by Rudolf Beranek from 1955 with no uranium. 

From my experience, very few Skrdlovice items glow. 
   
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 28, 2012, 04:32:19 PM
Thanks for the info, Anik!
Will have to borrow the UV torch from work...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on July 08, 2012, 06:58:56 AM
The find last week at a very big Belgian antiques and collectibles market in Brugge. 5 km of market - and only 3 or 4  czech pieces, two of which I bought (I already had the other two). One was a nice prunted Rhapsody Mstisov basket (10 euro, couldn't leave it for that price). On to the true find.

The owner was trying to interest me in a few huge Val St. Lambert vases that were attractive, but very expensive (and I don't collect Belgian glass). And then I noticed he had this one lying around on the floor. "Oh, that one. Don't know what it is. You can have it for 25 euro." Needless to say I rescued this nice Skrdlovice vase by Frantisek Vizner in azure, pattern 6855. It even has a gold Bohemia label, so unlike my 6860, it's probably period manufacture.

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on July 08, 2012, 10:22:47 AM
Astrid -- great find!!

And according to the pattern book these were first made in azure only, so yours is in the "original" colour.
Lovely...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on July 08, 2012, 01:31:34 PM
Wow, Astrid!!!  What a wonderfully fantastic buy -- a simply beautiful piece and an amazing price. Well done!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on July 20, 2012, 12:47:26 PM
Took a while to find another nice Skrdlovice piece, but it is an extremely nice one:

Pavel Hlava vase, PN 8032/17 (I think; it is more ball shaped than the drawing in the pattern book; around 17 cm high and wide; and heavy).
Has the remains of a Bohemia glass-export and of a Skrdlovice label.

I wonder why this range is not so easy to find; it seems that it has been produced for quite some while (still found in the 1989 catalogue and in the Beranek catalogue and website). And it is really beautiful...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on July 20, 2012, 01:07:17 PM
Oh gosh, am I ever envious!  Such a beautiful and large piece.  Michael, though you've found many fantastic items over the past year, I'd say this one's the best to date.  Absolutely fabulous!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on July 21, 2012, 08:46:27 AM
Thanks Anik :-*

And I agree -- apart from my tall Jelinek vase this is probably my best Skrdlovice piece to date...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on July 22, 2012, 06:47:37 AM
Michael,

A gorgeous piece that I've not seen seen outside the pattern book. Congratulations.

I'm still puzzled why we see so much of some patterns and absolutely none of others. 

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on July 22, 2012, 09:57:34 AM
Thanks David.
I wonder the same (especially with a pattern like this which has been produced for several decades). Maybe they were more expensive?

There was one in the 5th Sypka Czech glass auction, and another one >> here (http://www.herr-auktionen.de/1/auctions/nachverkauf/detailansicht/article/kugelvase-1/?tx_ttnews%5Byear%5D=1970&tx_ttnews%5Bmonth%5D=01&tx_ttnews%5Bday%5D=01&cHash=145a013fde9b09956bed93be6cf9843f) (signed, and a little lighter coloured than mine), that's all I could find...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on July 23, 2012, 07:53:19 PM
I'm very pleased with one of my latest additions to my collection:  a very heavy Vladimir Svab vase with a blue internal well and wonderful bubbles (giving a somewhat 3D effect) going around.  It took me some time to find the pattern number, but I did.  It's the 9529 / 25. I'm so clever.  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on July 24, 2012, 07:26:44 AM
Attractive vase, Anik!
I would have thought Skrdlovice / Beranek at once, but I have never seen it (or heard of the designer) before...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: adam20 on August 15, 2012, 12:08:40 PM
Just bought - this Skrdlovice vase by Frantisek Vizner - square section with internal bubbles and pink core - label to bottom.

Thanks Adam
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on August 15, 2012, 01:09:46 PM
Oooo, lovely, Adam!  Well done. :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on August 15, 2012, 01:44:10 PM
Great find, Adam!
Pretty in pink :)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Hel on August 17, 2012, 04:10:20 PM
Yep its an instagram of czech vases!

the first one i have posted before but this picture is just so nice I had to put it somewhere..dont know who designed the one in the middle but gather the torpedo for 4 stems is Beranek

cheers

Helga
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Hel on August 17, 2012, 04:13:08 PM
and by a nice picture I just mean to look at, I know its no good for  glass specifics..to blurry and weird hehe

Helga
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on August 17, 2012, 04:38:52 PM
The torpedo vase is great, Helga!

It is by Emanuel Beranek, PN 5907 I think.
The pink vase in the middle looks more like ZBS than Skrdlovice...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on August 19, 2012, 12:27:58 PM
Took more than a few weeks to find the matching vase to my Svobodova ashtray (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,40346.msg266668.html#msg266668) ;D

Not in perfect condition, but at Euro 1.50 quite a bargain...

Miloslava Svobodova vase from "Sabina" range, PN 6621 (mine is at 27 cm a little shorter than the 28 cm given in the pattern book).

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: adam20 on August 19, 2012, 02:58:11 PM
Lovely Michael. What is the pattern book you mention, can you buy it? So far I have been relying on Jindich's excellent website, but any publication would help greatly.

Thanks Adam
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on August 19, 2012, 07:31:16 PM
Michael, great to see you found a matching vase!  It's wonderful -- I do hope to find one for my collection one day.  Lucky you  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on August 20, 2012, 03:39:04 PM
Thanks! -- It is a really nice vase, and displays well with my teal Hospodka Prachen pieces. :)

@Adam: those pattern books were available as pdfs via a link to the Pardubice museum (on Jindrich's great site >> exhibitions >> permanent exhibitions); unfortunately it seems to be dead at the moment...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on August 21, 2012, 02:18:35 AM
Excellent find, Michael. Great piece in a great colourway, and at a price that I can only dream about. And you know how much I like Svobodova.  That's it, Vienna for me next year. Is the name of the line from CGR? 

David

PS just checked the patterns and I see the name there faintly on top right corner.

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on August 21, 2012, 03:52:37 PM
Thanks David!
The range was featured in CGR 1967/4 (https://picasaweb.google.com/104509467784289017506/Glasrevue19674?authkey=Gv1sRgCN-jnIqthpP_Nw&noredirect=1#5443708087499976322), and I was quite surprised the name "Sabina" is found in the pattern book...

Maybe you should plan a holiday in Germany as well -- Dirk beat me with his last purchase (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,49027.0.html) both in beauty AND prize :o

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on August 24, 2012, 08:43:09 PM
I'm very pleased with one of my newest Skrdlovice collection additions:  A Jaroslav Svoboda set from 1970.  It consists of a vase, a bowl, and an ashtray.  I really like its simplicity and clarity. 
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on August 25, 2012, 10:27:28 AM
Lovely Anik! :mrgreen:

I would be happy with one of them...
How do you always manage to find those beautiful and rare ranges as sets? ;D

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on August 30, 2012, 06:52:23 AM
Nice addition: blue and rose torpedo shape vase with 3 "drapes", 22.5 cm high.

If I got the PN right it should be 5067 (so quite an early design); unfortunately the designer's name is not quite legible, but I guess Emanuel Beranek ???

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on August 30, 2012, 01:30:11 PM
Hi Michael, a nice vase. It is Jan Beranek 5631.

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on August 31, 2012, 05:16:33 PM
Thanks a lot Robert! :)
I am a little confused now, as my vase looks quite different to the drawing of the Jan Beranek 5631 vase in the pattern book (which seems to be wider shaped, and it is hard to judge if it has the 3 repeating drapes with a bump in the lower part like the PN I suggested -- which looks exactly like my vase).

edit: found a pic of the Jan Beranek vase in >> CGR 1958/1 (https://picasaweb.google.com/104509467784289017506/Glasrevue19581?authkey=Gv1sRgCPyurcv_28X10AE&noredirect=1#5438530912557133906), still not convinced...
What makes you think that 5067 is not likely?

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on August 31, 2012, 08:33:59 PM
Hi Michael, the height is a good match for the Jan Beranek. I can't really read the Emanuel Beranek height. I don't see the colourway much before 1953. Most pre 53 designs I have are topas. Also I have seen a few of these and the handmade shaping seems to vary a lot. I attach a picture of one I have. The CGR photo does not show the vase very clearly but the tooling between the 3 lobes can be very pronounced. I have seen examples where the lobes reach the bottom of the vase, as in CGR and give the vase a distinct pear shape. (Also the Jan Beranek pattern drawing is quite poor). Finding this vase in several colourways, as I have done (elsewhere too) suggests to me, a mid fifties approach to production rather than earlier, simpler times.


Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 01, 2012, 08:37:29 AM
Thanks again Robert!
Your vase really looks different to the drawing in the patternbook and to the pic in CGR (so there seems to be a lot of variation). I would never have guessed the PN.

So it is rather the colourway that makes it a mid-fifties piece? Does that mean that it would be unusual for a design from 1950 to be produced a few years later?

I cannot read the height of the Jan Beranek vase, but the Emanuel Beranek is given at 24 cm, so (rather) close to my 22.5 cm.

Anyway -- as you said a nice design, and I am happy with either attribution :)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 09, 2012, 04:37:53 PM
Two more... 8)

First a very elegant Emanuel Beranek jardiniere, PN 59102, 26 cm wide.

Second one took me a while to figure out, but I am rather sure this quite unusual vase is a Rudolf Beranek design, PN 7807, 12 cm high.
>> Link (https://picasaweb.google.com/104509467784289017506/SkrdloviceGlassexport1979?authkey=Gv1sRgCLGgvPO42fXNiQE&noredirect=1#5514564095471116530) to the Skrdlovice 1979 catalogue on Jindrich's site...

Thanks for looking,
Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on September 09, 2012, 06:00:43 PM
Ooooooo, I very much like the second one, Michael!  (I think your attribution is correct.)
Great find.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on September 09, 2012, 06:53:36 PM
Good spot on the second one, Michael. I wouldn't recognize it from the pattern book.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chriscooper on September 09, 2012, 08:58:34 PM
Anyone mind if I add this vase I found today.
Amethyst heart vase by Vladimir Jelinek for Skrdlovice made around 1965 pattern number I think is 6525

https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/SkrdloviceVladimirJelinekCzechGlassVase

Chris
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 09, 2012, 09:03:26 PM
Thanks!
The line drawing in the patternbook from 1978 is totally useless in this case...

@ Chris: I do mind -- I want one of those, too ;D
No, thanks for showing -- what a great piece!

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on September 09, 2012, 09:19:53 PM
Great piece, Chris, and not too easy to find.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chriscooper on September 09, 2012, 09:34:59 PM
Will try and get some better photos tomorrow struggling to capture the colour which is actually amethyst.
Chris
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on September 10, 2012, 03:53:07 AM
Drool, drool, drool, drool... Chris, it's a wonderful item!  Thank you for adding it here.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chriscooper on September 10, 2012, 03:38:24 PM
Added a permanent photo to stay with the thread :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on September 10, 2012, 07:54:50 PM
Classic Skrdlovice Chris. These pieces are really impressive, having quite a sculptural quality. There don't seem to be that many around these days. Well done for spotting it!


Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on September 10, 2012, 07:57:15 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention that I like your new acquisitions too, Michael, the attributions are solid and I have not seen that Rudolf Beranek vase before, it is really interesting to see it,


Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chriscooper on September 10, 2012, 08:05:01 PM
Thanks Robert, really is a wonderful piece of workmanship.
Chris
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 11, 2012, 09:28:57 PM
Thanks Robert!
The Rudolf Beranek vase is an interesting piece -- I was sure it was Czech when I spotted it, but far from certain it was Skrdlovice...
But funny how tastes differ -- I think the Emanuel Beranek jardiniere is the much better piece of those two ;)

And thanks Chris for providing a pic of the beautiful Jelinek vase for our thread

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: adam20 on September 12, 2012, 08:31:53 AM
Delivered this morning - Skrdlovice vase (sculpture) 5" high, seller not sure who designed it but suggests Ladislav Palecek? It looks similar in design to other vase I have by Jan Beranek.

Thanks Adam
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 12, 2012, 10:22:26 AM
Absolutely right :), Ladislav Palecek, PN 6242

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on September 13, 2012, 11:26:44 AM
I'm extremely pleased with my latest purchase: a beautiful 12cm Frantisek Vizner ball vase (pattern number 7543) which weighs 1783g. 

Feel free to ooze with jealousy and awe.  I understand. 8)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 13, 2012, 07:06:22 PM
ooooze :)
Lovely, Anik! Never saw this one before...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on September 14, 2012, 04:31:13 AM
Thank you, Michael. I'm still oozing a bit myself.

I haven't seen one before either. It doesn't appear in Jindrich's "Ceskoslovenske sklo DVD database" though his Vizner DVD database offers a drawing of this vase.  The funny thing is that I won it on a Czech auction site for 749czk -- the seller's more common Vizners (toffee, whirlpool, etc.) went for much, much more.  Maybe people didn't recognise it?
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: adam20 on September 17, 2012, 10:23:36 AM
Just deliverd from Czechoslovakia today - Skrdlovice vase by Pavel Jezek, sun is not out so couldn't capture the beautiful blue colour.

Thanks Adam
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: adam20 on September 17, 2012, 04:52:09 PM
Another just delivered - Petr Hora -  very heavy and thick walled.

Adam
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 20, 2012, 02:35:42 PM
Adam, I like the Hora vase, nice colour...

Two more additions to my collection:
Jaroslav Svoboda vase 7302/24 (I love this range -- Bohemian drip decoration goes Pop Art ;D)
and
Rene Roubicek, 7212/12

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on September 20, 2012, 03:21:29 PM
I just love the Roubicek... I've got a taller one in clear and topaz, and it's one of my favourite pieces in my collection.  This is the first time I've seen the smaller version.  Well done, Michael!

Yesterday, I got a Jaroslav Svoboda 7425 ashtray to complete my bubbly set.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 21, 2012, 11:35:40 AM
Thanks Anik -- what a lovely set!
I have never seen a single piece from that range here...

The Roubicek vase is nice, but really small -- could well serve as a whiskey tumbler (and wouldn't be oversized at all) :)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on September 21, 2012, 03:36:32 PM
There are so many patterns to collect! I would like a Roubicek like that and I also would like one of those Vizner ball vases in that pattern too... I have the Hora painted scribble type vase in two shapes and the Jezek. These are all worth owning in my opinion.... but the Roubicek and Vizner items are definitely more scarce... collecting Skrdlovice is an endless quest!


Robert (bOBA)



Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: adam20 on September 21, 2012, 09:43:29 PM
Here is a Karel Wunsch vase designed 1976 deliverd today - it is 7" high and about that wide - lovely piece, glad to have bought it.

Adam
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 07, 2012, 11:15:34 AM
Nice Wünsch vase, Adam! I hope to find me the bigger version as well one day...

Two additions here:

- really impressive (27cm  high, 10 cm wide, so quite different to the 8 cm given in the pattern book) Vizner whirlpool vase
- Emanuel Beranek jardiniere, about 21 cm wide; unsure about the PN, maybe 5904?

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on October 07, 2012, 02:07:27 PM
Great Vizner, Michael.

Interesting that you should post the dish -- I saw exactly the same piece this morning at the market, but dismissed it as Chribska and moved on.   ::)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on October 07, 2012, 03:09:38 PM
Michael, is it possible that the dish/jardiniere really is Chribska?  It looks very much like the one in the 1999 catalogue:   here (https://picasaweb.google.com/104509467784289017506/CHRIBSkA1999?authkey=Gv1sRgCKjbrouFiseK2gE#5435064406800743906).

I'm having a slow-brain day, so I could be mistaken.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 07, 2012, 03:11:53 PM
Thanks Anik!
The Vizner is so huge and heavy, a really impressive lump of glass...

As the bowl has the exact same colours as >> this one (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,47490.msg278199.html#msg278199) I showed a few weeks ago, I have not much doubt it is Skrdlovice and from the same "range". I still struggle with the PN.
Funnily, it was sitting amongst several pieces of Chribska when I spotted it ;D

The one in the catalogue you linked to seems to have pulled lobes at the underside, so I would think rather not...
edit: Forgot to mention: it has an engraved "II" at the base, which we have seen before in Skrdlovice from that period.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on October 07, 2012, 04:54:22 PM
I have this jardiniere down as 5991, nice pieces, admittedly the drawing is not great....... (It is in CGR as such as part of the Victoire collection)

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 07, 2012, 05:31:08 PM
Thanks Robert! :)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on October 09, 2012, 02:12:32 PM
I'm glad I was mistaken, Michael!

I also got a new piece for my Skrdlovice collection:  a beautiful Vizner azur and blue triangular whirlpool, pattern number 7406.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 10, 2012, 03:25:50 PM
Wow, that's phantastic, Anik! Beautiful colourway...

One seller here at the fleamarket has the same vase in dark green glass; he claims it is Murano from the 1960s, and wants 200 Euro for it... (I told him that it is a Czech piece, which really annoyed him, and he refused to believe me ;D)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on October 10, 2012, 05:40:01 PM
Last year, I was thrown out of an antiques shop and told never to return when I told the owner that his 800PLN 'Moser' was actually a 5988 Skrdlovice piece.  ::)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on October 11, 2012, 01:56:37 AM
Anik, you're not alone in being thrown out of a store.

I was in Murano last month and saw the window display in the photo below. It took a minute to register that the pieces were all Skrdlovice/Beranek by Vizner, Palecek, Hora, and others. I went it to the store and, pointing to the display, asked, in what I hoped was an incredulous voice, "Murano?" The owner said all the pieces in the window were designed by his uncle, Giacomo something.

I happened to have my iPad with me and opened it to show him a Vizner piece the same as one in the window. "All your pieces are Czech," I said. He came back: "No, no, my uncle designed these in the 1940's The Czech and Chinese copied him."

I told him that he was a disgrace to the Murano and Czech traditions.  He then told me to leave the shop. Best guess is that the glass was remaindered when Beranek closed.

Other than that, Murano was lovely. I had a great two hours in Venini where the salesperson could not have been more helpful even although I made it clear that I wasn't buying. She brought out old catalogues and pieces, and was happy to chat about the glass. Even shook my hand when I left and thanked me for coming in.  Also directed me to the Carl Scarpa exhibition that was just opening on San Giorgio. Spectacular.  Great new book on Scarpa, too.

David

PS It's good to see that you've all been busy keeping the Skrdlovice market afloat while I was on holiday. I've got a couple new Skrdlovice pieces on my Picasa page, if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 11, 2012, 08:40:31 AM
David, great story ;D
I never managed to get thrown out of a shop, I just got 2 different sellers at fleamarkets really angry at me...

Funny that most of those pieces are in colourless glass; so your assumption about them being recent Beranek production sounds reasonable.
How much did that dubious store owner ask for the pieces "his uncle had designed"?

And I think I spotted a few fabulous new Vizner whirlpool vases in your gallery...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on October 11, 2012, 11:17:59 AM
That's unbelievable, David, and in many ways sad. 

... unless, of course, poor uncle Giacomo was a great visionary who designed these pieces a few generations before their time and was mercilessly forced by brutes like Vizner, Exnar, Vencalek, Palecek and Hora to relinquish his designs to them. It's an ugly world.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on October 11, 2012, 12:24:25 PM
The photo of Czech Glass on murano is a classic. Not just one piece but a whole shop front, I cannot see any Italian glass! My reaction was more amusement than anger, I think it is quite amusing that someone would have the audacity to do it at all and as for even suggesting a relative was the designer, well really....... amazing stuff! Just after profit I guess, from tourists. I would have thought most of his fellow local Italians on murano would not be very impressed either! I don't think a shop full of murano (or Chinese or Polish glass) in Prague would last very long claiming to be local glass ..... or maybe I am being naive...


Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on October 11, 2012, 07:25:52 PM
In the long run it was really amusing. When I meet soemone who is quite happy to lie like that, I just don't know what to say. It's so outside my usual experience. As soon as I left, I wondered what he was asking for the pieces, which I neglected to find out before the discussion with the owner.  I didn't want to go back immediately and it was closed later. Neither did I get the name of the store when I was inside and there was no name on the outside. The shop was very close to the Glass Museum on Murano.

Michael, the colour-less glass did throw me a little at first. There was some use of green but it was such a pale green. And thanks for the comment on the new Vizners. I am very happy with the new acquisitions.

David
      
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on October 12, 2012, 06:48:42 PM
One more item for my collection which I'm excited about -- a weird, cube paperweight with a swirled ball, designed by Ladislav Oliva, pattern 8815.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 13, 2012, 02:26:47 PM
Nice design by Mr. Oliva, Anik! (Very 1980s post-modernistic style :) )

I just found me a matching bowl/ashtray (PN 6826/13) to the green Vizner vase I showed last week. Will take a pic when the light is better...
But I saw an interesting piece today at the fleamarket: definately cut from a Skrdlovice blank, but not to a really nice shape; the base had a big ground but unpolished circular pontil mark. Unfortunately it had several bruises and scratching to the sides, and I hesitated to buy; when I went back half an hour later to look at it once more it was gone...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on October 17, 2012, 06:17:57 AM
Ah, sorry I've been out of touch for a while... but I haven't given up on collecting Skrdlovice. I'll list my newer pieces:

1. 7532 by Vizner. Small version. I thought it was a candlestick, but the pattern book still says it's a vase...
2. 7608 by Ladislav Palecek
3. 8318 another Ladislav Palecek

I've added several Paleceks lately and I definitely like his work

Astrid





Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on October 17, 2012, 06:28:07 AM
And a few more bubbly additions:

1. 7609 Frantisek Spinar
2. 8115 Pavel Stejskal

I got them both from the same Dutch seller (who had listed them as Murano of course). When I bought the first, I got an email from another collector who already owned both pieces and said "well, I see you bought the Spinar, but why didn't you pick up the Stejskal as well". So I have to confess my Skrdlovice sense wasn't tingling as well as it should have... Thanks Hans, for helping me add the Stejskal to my collection :)

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on October 17, 2012, 06:58:43 AM
Astrid, I'm so happy to see you back!

Lovely new additions to your Skrdlovice collection -- I'm especially fond (and jealous) of your Palecek 7608 and the Stejskal which you almost didn't buy.  Well done!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 20, 2012, 10:20:10 AM
Astrid, lovely (and many) additions! :)

The 8318 Palecek vase is one I would love to have as well...
Not so sure about the Stejskal piece; I saw it here once, and didn't like it enought to buy it; but it looks really good on your photograph.

I saw about 8 Skrdlovice items today at the Viennese fleamarket, but they were either too expensive, damaged, or I have an identical piece already in my collection. So I will just show the nice Vizner bowl / ashtray I found last week, PN 6826/13.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 21, 2012, 11:34:02 AM
The 8318 Palecek vase is one I would love to have as well...

That was fast! ;D
Found today, Ladislav Palecek, PN 8318, 22 cm high (should be 24 cm)

And the most ridiculous vase one could imagine, Beranek glassworks, PN 9608/18, by Jiri Vencalek.
I only bought it because it was very cheap (and because it makes me laugh whenever I look at it; well, not the worst reason ;))

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on October 21, 2012, 03:19:50 PM
Well done, Michael! I'm not sure the Vencalek will give me the 'it must be mine!' sentiment, but it's fun in its own way.

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 21, 2012, 05:59:19 PM
Thank you, Astrid.
When I spotted the Vencalek vase it gave me the "it must not be mine" sentiment ;D; but the seller obviously wanted to get rid of it, and offered it for 6 Euro (I hadn't even bothered to ask for the prize).

And I am starting to like it, regardless the fact it is about the opposite of everything I would call a good design...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on October 21, 2012, 06:52:28 PM
Nice pieces Michael and Astrid. I have the Palecek 8318, in blue, amusingly with a lightly etched Leerdam on the base! (I have seen Daum written on some fifties Skrdlovice too).  The 7532 Vizner is striking and the other Palecek is quite uncommon. I have the Stejskal pattern only as a jardiniere but it displays well. The Vencalek is interesting and I perhaps too could be persuaded by price, it does not look a simple thing to make. The new factory pieces are now not really that common on the open market, it is a real shame we never see the best pieces for sale from the Beranek Glass factory before it closed....... some of the pieces I would pay good money for but I have never seen them around...... I have a few common, mediocre pieces from there and a couple of quite good ones, but they are not often displayed very prominently!! The very best designs from Beranek Glass seem very rare to find and they rank fairly as good designs (in my opinion) to be called Skrdlovice ......... I am thinking of vases on the old website such as 10 2003 03/23 Roman Bastl,11 2004 22/20, Jan Koňařík and 10 1904 13/30 Josef Pospíchal. Hopefully GMB members will find yet more pieces to show!


Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on October 21, 2012, 08:14:05 PM
I like many of the newer Beranek designs. For instance I would like more Konarik, Valner, Svab and Kolbabek in my collection. I agree that they too rarely turn up for sale. Maybe we'll have to wait another 10 years before the first owners get tired of them :)

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 22, 2012, 03:32:54 PM
Just to add: Robert is perfectly right that the Vencalek vase is a really well executed, chunky piece of glass (as usual), so my concerns are merely design-wise.
Astrid's Konarik vase and Anik's Svab vase are great examples of post 1990 Beranek glass; it's a pity that pieces like those don't pop up very often... (not even here in Vienna)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on November 11, 2012, 12:54:00 PM
And one more from Emanuel Beranek, I think PN 5980.
22.5 cm high, nice brown colour...
Has the yellow with silver script label, so I would think early 1960s production.

@David: some great new addtions to your collection in your gallery :mrgreen:
Can you tell me more about that orange and yellow swirl plate/bowl? -- That is a fantastic piece.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on November 11, 2012, 01:54:21 PM
Great colour, Michael... such a warm, deep brown. Lovely!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 13, 2012, 04:44:34 PM
Hello, my first posting in these threads!
I'm not yet a collector, but I do have my first bit of Skrdlovice. My prize from the fair on Sunday. I NEED to show it off!
Ladislav Oliva, '76.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on November 13, 2012, 04:48:27 PM
Wow, one of the most beautiful Skrdlovice pieces ever, high up on my wishlist -- I am green with envy ;)
Great find, Sue!

And great that you joined our thread with this stunning piece.

@ Anik: thanks for your comment, the colour of the Emanuel Beranek vase is really nice (and quite unusual)
 
Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 13, 2012, 04:58:35 PM
Thank-you  :)
- I am madly in love with it - so much so that I forgot I also recently acquired a fabby Jan Kotek '52 Propellor vase from Anik, same lovely colourway.  :-[
When we got the Oliva home to Christine's, we could not believe it is only 12 inches tall - it LOOKS so much bigger than that.
I need a third bit to qualify as a collector though. I have my beady eyes on something else rather special though. ;)

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on November 13, 2012, 04:59:27 PM
OH WOW, SUE!  What a way to start...  It's just beautiful!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 13, 2012, 05:06:29 PM
 ;D but not my first bit, Anik, that was my fabby Propellor.
I'm now going to be after the Vizner toffee bit you have, :-* but I need to check my account first and see if I need to move funds.  ::)

Adding an image taken in darker lighting. :D
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on November 13, 2012, 07:42:39 PM
Sue,

Fabulous--and apparently rare--piece. It's a piece that none of the Skrdlovice collectors I know have, unless Anik and Michael have been hiding their pieces. You have certainly started a Skrldovice collection at the top, a Kotik and this Oliva. Was it at Solihull on Sunday that you bought it?

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on November 14, 2012, 05:35:50 AM
I want one too! Actually, there is one on ebay now, correctly labeled even, but the misguided owner wants 1.150 euro for it... It might fetch that sort of money far in the future, but now that's completely over the top.

But congratulations, Sue, on starting so well with your Czech collection!
Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 14, 2012, 09:23:21 AM
Yes, I got it at the National - from Danny Walker.  8)
There's one for sale here...  a good bit more than I paid, but not over E1,000.
http://www.artofglass.me.uk/krdlovice-glass-vase-by-ladislav-oliva-725-p.asp
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on November 14, 2012, 06:10:20 PM
Thanks for the link, Sue. Not that I could afford that sort of money...  I always wonder what sort of people those kind of dealers do business with. Obviously not most of the glass collectors I know :). But I'm a patient girl. I know what I want to pay for it, and I expect it won't be impossible to find it at that price level if I'm willing to look around for a while.

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on November 14, 2012, 08:36:50 PM
Sue's gorgeous vase is a hard act to follow, but I got a piece today which I found pretty darn exciting... At first glance, it looks like your regular Frantisek Vizner 7411 'beer' vase with perhaps a little extra 'froth' at the top.  But my item is actually a non-pattern.  It's 18cm tall and a little over 10cm wide (rather than 19cm x 9cm). Oooooooo, aaaaaaaaa.  ;)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 15, 2012, 10:38:32 AM
 ;D
I've definitely got the bug; a full-blown, incurable, life-long infection...
That's a beautiful thing, Anik - it must weigh a ton!  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on November 15, 2012, 11:33:41 AM
It's a great bug to have, Sue!  ;D

P.S. My vase is quite heavy.  It weighs 3175g.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on November 15, 2012, 11:45:52 AM
Lovely vase, Anik! (Glad I have it already, so I don't have to turn green again ;))

Are you sure about it being a non-patternbook piece? -- 1 cm is not much in my experience for Skrdlovice of any period; almost all my pieces show differences like that (or even more) to the measurements given in the pattern books...
For instance the tall Vizner whirlpool (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,47490.msg280921.html#msg280921) vase I showed a few weeks ago has a diameter of 10 cm instead of the 8 given; my Palecek 8318 (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,47490.msg282009.html#msg282009) is 2 cm shorter than the 24 cm given...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on November 15, 2012, 12:27:53 PM
Michael, I can never be sure of anything.  You could be right.

I've had several 'beers' and none have ever wandered from the pattern book sizes as much as this one.  It just looks different.  Below is my fat vase and my standard-sized 7411 for comparison.

P.S. Interestingly, I have never seen a tall Vizner whirlpool that had the pattern book diameter of 8cm.  All have been 10cm or a wee bit more.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on November 15, 2012, 04:19:54 PM
I can see the difference now ;D Very chunky proportions, I like it.

Mine is 19 cm high, and 8.5 cm wide, so quite close to the pattern book.

For instance my green-slime Svoboda vase (https://picasaweb.google.com/107330317087089352634/CzechSkrdlovice?authkey=Gv1sRgCN3F85P1opTf5gE#5655879387703609074) is only a little bit over 6 cm wide (should be 8 cm according to the patternbook), my Hlava vase (https://picasaweb.google.com/107330317087089352634/CzechSkrdlovice?authkey=Gv1sRgCN3F85P1opTf5gE#5767246335632198818) is an almost perfect ball shape instead of being 17 x 20 cm; and I could go on like this endlessly (but I am too lazy to measure and compare at the moment ;))
I think I have more Skrdlovice items which differ at least 1 cm from the measurements in the pattern books than ones which would have correct dimensions....

BTW, there was an extremely beautiful vase from this range on ebay.de recently -- tall version in dark blue...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 15, 2012, 04:51:12 PM
At the moment, I can't see anything past your Hlava.... and I've gone all green and gooey, Michael!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on November 15, 2012, 08:48:31 PM
The Hlava vases are great things I agree. So is the Oliva vase. They are not that common, designed by big names and quite complex to construct and were probably expensive in their day, compared to some other pieces. Which is why they are definitely in the above average end of the price range as far as auction houses are concerned. It is really the result of the organisation of great design talent and great designers that makes Skrdlovice provide so much great glass. All great glass!


Robert (bOBA)



   
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on November 17, 2012, 08:55:36 AM
My latest acquisitions, 3 out of 4 thanks to Anik:

7607 Ladislav Palecek
5989 Emanuel Beranek
7302 Jaroslav Svoboda
7303 Jaroslav Svoboda

The 7303 is a HUGE vase - just explaining since they don't seem to turn up that much (at least not where I can see them). It's about 30 cm high (29 according to the pattern), but also with quite a diameter. One of the biggest vase I have in my collection so far...

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on November 18, 2012, 02:03:38 PM
Astrid, once again some very nice additions! (As you have probably seen, I love the Svoboda range with the blue drip decoration)
The 7303 must be a really impressive piece...
And funny that you have found the Emanuel Beranek 5989 in the shorter (non patternbook) version as well >> Link (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,40346.msg246676.html#msg246676)

@Sue: I can see why you like my Hlava vase -- those (I guess) silver chloride inclusions are quite unique for Skrdlovice :)

I just found me one 1950s piece, another of those nice (but yet unidentified) organic vases, lovely colourway though.
I post a few pics, maybe they can be attributed to a pattern number... (As this seems to be one of the most abundant Srkdlovice pieces from that period, it has to be in the pattern books somewhere ???)
And interesting detail: my second piece with that big silver-on-yellow label; I took a pic to compare it side by side to a "normal" size label.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on November 18, 2012, 05:50:47 PM
It is Jaroslav it is in the patterns,

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on November 18, 2012, 10:40:45 PM
Thanks Robert!
We discussed it in some ID thread as far as I remember, but didn't really come to a conclusion.
I would think PN could be 54181 then, Jaroslav Beranek.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: vetraio50 on November 24, 2012, 01:18:59 PM
Hi from Sydney, land of Oz!

Love those "Eleganza" vases!

I have a request for info about a new vase I bought recently.
A little tale to tell: I was talking to a friend about the Collector's Fair held here in Sydney and he sent me a most interesting site about Czech design. In that site I found a 'haunting" postcard that had attracted my mate Marty's attention too. It was a photo of an attractive young girl with a solifleur vase and a tulip.

http://madeinczechoslovakia.org/2011/07/czechoslovakia-shortwave-radio-card-1968/

Looked at the catalogues yet again and saw it was Maria Stáhlíková and dated from 1958 and not 1968 as suggested in the postcard.

Souped up with the data, the next day I went to the Collector's Fair and voilà!
It was not cheap but serendipity rules.

I'm still not sure if it is 1958 or 1959.

5836, 5850 or 5931?

http://www.glassmessages.com/Smileys/classic/huh.gif
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on November 24, 2012, 01:34:15 PM
Ooh, lovely Stahlikova vase in a very nice colourway!
I would think PN 5930 or 5931.

No great new purchases here, but as a fan of Stahlikova's work I am pleased with these two:

- 23.5 cm high, strange colourway of cloudy blue and green; I have the same in pink and green (https://picasaweb.google.com/107330317087089352634/CzechSkrdlovice?authkey=Gv1sRgCN3F85P1opTf5gE#5617614314441130082), and both have an engraved II to the base ;D Actually no idea about the pattern nr of those...

- 27 cm high, purple-blue-purple, again unsure about the PN (maybe 5932 without the applied glass to the side? -- The second "sommerso" layer seems a bit unusual, too)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: vetraio50 on November 24, 2012, 11:27:18 PM
Many thanks for your help Michael. Love those two vases! Any idea about the significance of the engraved II? ( or I-I ?)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on November 25, 2012, 01:02:10 PM
Thanks Kevin.
Your Stahlikova vase is by far more desirable than my two.
Really beautiful piece, far better than my wonky version (https://picasaweb.google.com/107330317087089352634/CzechSkrdlovice?authkey=Gv1sRgCN3F85P1opTf5gE#5725389903834768850) ;D (if it is the same pattern at all -- each piece seems to differ tremendously from the other).
edit: PN 6011 might be more appropriate, at least for my vase...

Don't really know what the engraved II indicates; Anik had it on one piece, too, and we thought it could mean that they are "seconds". But I haven't remarked any severe faults in those pieces...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on November 27, 2012, 07:29:20 AM
Some nice Stahlikova pieces.  Kevin's piece is one of my favourite Stahlikova desings. Some can be wonky, as Michael says. The best ones I've seen have been found outside Europe, i.e. made for export.

I'll push the Skrdlovice envelope a little and show this Vizner for Alchemie Praha, which was a US company that commissioned designs in the Czech Republic. I think this one was made at the Beranek works in Skrdlovice. It's even more interesting in that it has Vizner's signature on it. I've been focusing on Vizner lately and I'll add a couple tomorrow perhaps.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on November 27, 2012, 09:45:14 AM
Time to start oooooo-ing and aaaaaaaaa-ing.

Lovely additions, gentlemen though I do find the Stahlikova vases a little too feminine for my taste. The pattern numbers for these items completely confuse me.  There are similar vases (if not the same to my eye) with different pattern numbers ranging from the late 50s to the very early 60s.

David, your Vizner is wonderful.  I love the colour, the crisp top and the mess of swirly bubbles near the base.  It's a beauty -- perfect eye candy.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on November 28, 2012, 11:06:31 PM
Two of my new Vizners. Very solid and sculptural.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on November 28, 2012, 11:10:58 PM
An early Vizner that clearly owes a bit to Svobodova.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on November 28, 2012, 11:13:48 PM
Finally, a monster weighing 5.34 Kg and 30.8 cm tall. 

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on November 29, 2012, 04:58:01 AM
Oh David!  WOW!  WOW!  WOW!  WOW! 
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on November 29, 2012, 04:28:07 PM
Ooh, great Vizner pieces, David!
Apart from the tall "monster" I have never seen any of them before...

I can not decide which one I like most -- maybe the sculputral green ones :)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 29, 2012, 04:51:09 PM
Somebody's christmas must have come a bit early - I particularly love the bulgy green Vizners...
I need a bigger house and pots of money!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on November 30, 2012, 01:57:26 AM
Thanks for all your positive comments.  These additions have forced me finally to start rearranging my main cabinet. It's leading to some tough decisions.

The monster, btw, isn't one of those pieces with internal bubbles. The effect comes from what almost looks like square sections of glass laid on top of each other quite unevenly. 

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on November 30, 2012, 06:52:19 AM
Well done, David! I love it when someone brings new examples to this thread...

I'm trying to ID them by pattern number, could you give some dimensions? The monster 30 cm could be either 6844 or 6852, can't decide between them. What do others think?

The Vizner-Svobodova inspired is probably 6950 if it's 16 cm high (or not listed when it's higher, but that's the pattern I think), and I've trouble trying to find an exact match to the emerald green ones, so some heights would definitely help there...

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on November 30, 2012, 08:30:38 AM
I think you're pretty well spot on Astrid. The Vizner Svobodova is 16 cm tall, which makes 6950 a safe bet.  i think the monster is 6852 because I think that's the square model. The green ones I take to be 7550/20 and 7550/13,  as the sizes and shapes are right for those two.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on December 01, 2012, 11:44:08 AM
Yep, sounds quite right, thanks!... I hadn't got to 1975 yesterday, I was looking backwards towards the late sixties.

Wouldn't it be great if we all together could post a live example of every Skrdlovice pattern out there... Well, we can certainly try :)

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 07, 2012, 05:59:20 PM
My 40th birthday present... a fantastic Vizner 'egg' vase from 1968. It's both refined and completely silly at the same time, and I'm thrilled to have it. Yay me!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on December 07, 2012, 07:02:41 PM
Looking great! Sadly my husband doesn't have enough knowledge or inclination to go glass hunting to find me a present like that... So, to cheer me up, please tell me you point it out to whoever is supposed to buy it for you :)

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 07, 2012, 07:38:32 PM
Oh Astrid, Astrid, Astrid...

Unfortunately, my husband is but a mere mortal, unknowledgable about glass or designers, and clueless about how to go about finding me what I'd really like for my collection.

I tracked down the vase myself, inquired about it, agreed to buy it, paid for it, made arrangements for it to be sent from the Czech Republic, retrieved it from the postman, unpacked it, thanked the seller, wrapped it, and gave it to my husband so that he could present it to me today.  A perfect present. :-X
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on December 08, 2012, 03:47:59 AM
Happy birthday Anik.

What a perfect present I'd rather arrange for the perfect present for me than let my wife make an expensive error. She probably feels the same way.  I don't see how this is in any way silly: it looks fantastic.


David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on December 08, 2012, 06:54:33 AM
Oh Astrid, Astrid, Astrid...

Unfortunately, my husband is but a mere mortal, unknowledgable about glass or designers, and clueless about how to go about finding me what I'd really like for my collection.

I tracked down the vase myself, inquired about it, agreed to buy it, paid for it, made arrangements for it to be sent from the Czech Republic, retrieved it from the postman, unpacked it, thanked the seller, wrapped it, and gave it to my husband so that he could present it to me today.  A perfect present. :-X

Ah, I feel much relieved that I'm not the only one... I guess in my case the difficulty is that my husband has the notion that somehow HE should decide what he will get me for my birthday instead of me selecting it. Which means in our case that collecting and presents don't mix. To be fair, I would feel just as lost trying to select the obscure prog music for his birthday that he collects :).

And of course, I forgot, but better late than never: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU, ANIK!!!!

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 08, 2012, 11:14:17 AM
Oh Anik, what a fantastic present (even if you have found it yourself).
I hope one of those vases will come my way, one day...

Nothing even remotely specatacular here:

- yet another one of those fluid Jaroslav Beranek vases, nice colourway purple/blue
- Petr Hora vase, PN 8317/20 (when I bought it, I though it was probably a later execution due to the colour, but the drawing in the pattern book shows a red one, too)
- strange paperweight, 10 cm high, with a label I have not seen before (my guess would be 1990s). Dark brown, with an enclosed hard to see flattened blob of bubbles. Not sure about the pattern number, the closest I could find is 9206/10 by Ladislav Oliva.

And a belated HAPPY 40th BIRTHDAY from Vienna !!!

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 08, 2012, 03:11:59 PM
Thank you for the birthday wishes.  I'm feeling loved.  :)

Michael, the ruby Hora is great -- it's the first I've ever seen in red!  The bubbly paperweight is very interesting, but if it is the 9206, why has it got a Skrdlovice label?  Did Beranek glassworks use a black Skrdlovice label right at the beginning, when the glassworks was returned to family ownership?

David, though I completely agree that my Vizner looks fantastic, I can't help but think there is something charmingly silly about it -- it makes me smile.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 08, 2012, 04:37:41 PM
Anik, your Vizner is simply great, nothing silly about it :)

After looking through the pattern books once more, I think I may have found the paperweight: PN 8835/10, still Ladislav Oliva.
The drawing shows a brown ball with a lighter stripe in the middle, that's what mine approximately looks like. And the more stylized UR symbol on my label looks like the one on the cover of the 1989 catalogue on Jindrich's site.
Still have never seen that label before; my other pieces made at appr. the same time have the "normal" golden label.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 08, 2012, 04:46:55 PM
It's a perfectly fabulous bit of glass Anik, you chose very well for yourself. I'm delighted to hear you feel loved, especially for your birthday.  :-*
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 08, 2012, 05:01:58 PM
A Skrdlovice label on a 1988 piece makes much more sense.  The Oliva 8835 looks like a good match, Michael.  Well found! 


P.S. It looks like I'm the only person on the board who sees a bit of silliness in my fabulous Vizner 'egg' vase.  Hmmmmm...

P.P.S. Thank you, Sue!  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on December 09, 2012, 04:36:35 AM
Good finds, Michael. I like the Hora in red, very striking.

You're still alone on the silly, Anik. Alone, but loved, and with a fabulous piece of glass.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 09, 2012, 12:10:37 PM
I was at a massive and over-the-top posh antiques fair in Amsterdam a couple of weeks ago (the sort of fair where there are no prices on things - you have to ask - and if you have to ask, you can't afford it), and I was obviously studying all the glass.

One piece did rather stand out to me - a huge block of glass, probably about 8" cubed. It had in it two wells of colour - just like your Vizner egg, but in a reddish colour and a browny one. I did ask the price, about £4,000. It was very cute - almost like a couple of slippers in glass - but I very strongly suspect whatever Italian Maestro made it, (I think it was Cenedese) they MUST have taken inspiration from your Vizner egg.  8)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 10, 2012, 05:45:43 AM
This one's funny, but great:  A cylindrical vase with two very large protruding rings or ears, designed by Pavel Jezek 7419 / 20cm.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 10, 2012, 10:17:53 PM
Ok, this time I wouldn't object to the term silly (but in a great way ;) -- I like it)
Still I am quite happy that my red Jezek vase came without applied "ears"...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 11, 2012, 06:31:14 AM
Michael, at least my Jezek can hear better than yours.  :P ;D
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 14, 2012, 11:59:04 AM
That's true -- but can't compete with my Vencalek vase where the flowers are already incorporated ;D

One more piece added to my collection (I was looking very hard for one from this range):
Ladislav Palecek vase with mica inclusions, PN 6749, 15 cm diameter, 13 cm high.
Though not very big, it is massive, weighing around 3 kg. Really attractive...

Thanks,
Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 14, 2012, 12:09:48 PM
Where's the green emoticon! That is just gorgeous Michael. I need one of these.
I appear to have found/stumbled upon my own way of collecting Czech glass - it appears to be the topaz and green colourway.
I've only ever been attracted before (gut-wise) to blues and yellows and purples!

Incidentally, I have noticed/observed that the "Paint drip" vases in clear with blue drippy tops seem to be inspired by the Ladislaw Oliva vase I posted - it's the same sort of drip pattern inside the vase - at both the top and the base, but definitely the same pattern of drippy bits!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 14, 2012, 12:12:49 PM
Wonderful find, Michael!  We don't see many of these around, do we? 

The weight of it amazes me.  Almost 3 kg? In the photo, it looks like a small, dainty thing.
I'm jealous!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 14, 2012, 01:13:20 PM
Thank you, ladies :)

Ever since I saw >> Della's one (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,26491) I wanted one of those...
(Mine is 3 cm taller btw, Skrdlovice sizes are really varying a lot).

I purchased it online, and was really surprised how big and heavy it is in reality (regardless of the rather smallish dimensions).
And I love the colours -- well, as a Skrdlovice collector you have to love brown, green and blue ;D

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 19, 2012, 09:01:35 AM
And a quite special piece added to my collection:

Jaroslav Svoboda vase (or rather sculpture), PN 7232, 24 cm high, signed to the base (Robert kindly confirmed the authenticity of the signature, thanks!!).
Incredibly heavy -- no wonder, being massive glass apart from the small well in the top part...

"New old stock" from a shop in Vienna which imported lots of glass from Skrdlovice/Beranek in the late 1980s / early 1990s.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 19, 2012, 10:38:15 AM
Michael, that's one of the oddest looking vases I've seen... Great addition to your collection!

But I've got a question -- because of the signature, is it possible that the vase was produced at Svoboda, Karlov?
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 19, 2012, 01:20:29 PM
Anik, I think rather not; it was sitting among about 15 other Beranek / Skrdlovice pieces, latest pattern number around 1992, most from the 1970s and 80s, even a Svobodova "Galaxy" vase; no other Czech glass. The owner said he had it for more than 20 years, and that he imported glass from Beranek then. -- I guess this would possibly predate Svoboda's own glasswork?
Robert didn't object to the idea it was Skrdlovice production either...
(But I guess I will never know for sure)

BTW, even in the pattern book this one is referred to as "Vaza-Plastika" :)
It is really more a sculpture than a vase...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on December 19, 2012, 05:04:55 PM
Absolutely fabulous find, Michael.  There's not a trace of functionality about this piece, as you say, pure sculpture. The years around 1972 produced some astounding designs. I'd presume it was Skrdlovice rather than Svoboda, but why not write to Svoboda and ask him?

Was there anything else even nearly as tempting as this in the shop?

David


Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 26, 2012, 01:16:06 PM
Thanks David!

 ;D This doesn't belong here, but I thought it would be fun to show it anyway:
"Almost" a Vizner whirlpool vase, 24.5 cm high.

I thought it looked quite wonky when I spotted it, and imagine my surprise when I turned it around and saw a big and perfect polished pontil mark and a Jindra Beranek signature.
I never knew that he made things like this one; so far I have only seen his 1950s-organic-Skrdlovice-inspired pieces.
Still a nice vase...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 26, 2012, 01:28:25 PM
Oooo, I find your new piece very interesting, Michael!  Would you know the rough year Jin Beranek designed this?

I like it. :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 26, 2012, 03:25:24 PM
Thanks Anik (and a belated Merry Christmas :) )

In >> this thread (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,38105.msg209849.html#msg209849) is some more info by Robert and Jindrich about Jindra Beranek's work in Austria.
I have read that he worked for Lobmeyr from around 1974/75, and opened his own studio in Bad Tatzmannsdorf in 1976, but don't know how long he continued to make glass there...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on December 27, 2012, 11:39:10 AM
Hi all. Fascinating vase. I do not know what to say about this except it is a Vizner design for Skrdlovice that Jindirch must have copied for amusement or profit, or an exhibition or something. The technology to create it had been evolved by Jan Beranek and Vizner. It is a real surprise to see this design having a Jindrich style signature and polished pontil rod mark.  I understand that things were not always smooth between the Beraneks. This vase is a slight mystery. I have seen one other Vizner vase with a polished pontil rod mark, being sold in CZ, unsigned. I did hear that Jindrich Beranek was still alive in Vienna.... very interesting......


Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 27, 2012, 02:19:44 PM
Merry (belated) Christmas to all as well!

Michael, thank you for the link. I forgot that Jindra Beranek had been discussed previously. I've bookmarked it now for future reference. And Robert, thank you for the additional information. Who needs soap operas when we've got the intriguing world of glass. :)

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 27, 2012, 03:07:44 PM
Robert, thank you so much for the additional info!

As I said, it came as quite a surprise to me as well that Jindra Beranek made a piece like this (though I have seen quite a lot of pieces by him during the past years, and several of them were copies of -- or inspired by -- Emanuel Beranek shapes, but none of later Skrdlovice patterns so far).
The base finish and signature are very typical for him, so I have no doubt about it being a "real" Jindra Beranek ;D

If on purpose or not, the shape towards the top is not as perfect as in Skrdlovice Vizner vases, and neither are the swirling air bubbles as nicely executed (I guess it is far from easy -- even for an experienced glass maker -- to produce such a piece).
Though a very attractive vase, I would have prefered if it was a little bit more Jindra and less Vizner (shape, colours...)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on January 06, 2013, 12:33:25 PM
Two nice Skrdlovice pieces to start the new year (I seem to focus on Mr. Svoboda, but more or less accidentially)

- huge plate, 36 cm diameter, PN 7320, with a fake signature ;D
- ball vase, PN 7421/15

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on January 06, 2013, 06:55:56 PM
Love the Svoboda plate, Michael!  Very substantial at 36cm.  What a great find.  I also think the 7421 is lovely -- I'm waiting for one to arrive too, but with a topaz frill rather than green. :)

Happy new year!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on January 06, 2013, 08:57:00 PM
Nice plate, Michael. I like plates although I still haven't found a way to display them.  Svoboda designs are invariably interesting, like the ball vase with the thick lip.

I wonder if the signature on the plate is the original owner's name?

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on January 07, 2013, 09:29:45 AM
The plate is very beautiful indeed, but I have no idea how (or where) to display it -- absolutely no space to display it "flat", and much too heavy to hang it...
I hadn't condsidered that the signature could be the original owner's name; it is not the name of the previous owner I bought it from, who thought it was studio glass by a Mr. "O. Lipton".

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on January 07, 2013, 11:29:07 AM
Great plate Michael. I have a similar plate we casually refer to as a "fried egg" plate. Crazy inscription (I do have a Palecek inscribed Leerdam!!) This looks to me like a former owner name, but either way it seems not relevant today! These plates are huge. It is possible to display them on the clear plastic tripod stands. This works quite well for me, though the plastic seems under quite a bit of strain, even with the 12 inch size of stand....


Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on January 07, 2013, 01:01:12 PM
Thank you, Robert!
I saw in the pattern books that these plates came in several different designs, each with a different pattern number.
When I described it to my friend I claimed that it looked like a plate with two fried eggs ;D
I will try to get one of those acrylic stands, it would be a pity to store it away...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: adam20 on January 07, 2013, 03:29:21 PM
Delivered this week. Skrdlovice vase. I think it's an Emanuel Beranek piece. Anyone able to confirm? 8.25 inches high with label.

Adam
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on January 07, 2013, 10:07:22 PM
Lovely vase, Adam!  It was designed by Jan Juda in 1985 (pattern number 8533).

Michael, I've got some room to display your Svoboda plate, so feel free to send it over.  I'm in such a giving mood, I won't even charge you rent for the space it'll take up.  :P
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on January 08, 2013, 07:11:15 AM
Good idea, Anik! That would leave some space on my sideboard to display your Vizner egg vase ;D
Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on January 08, 2013, 03:27:07 PM
 Oh Michael  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: flying free on January 10, 2013, 08:57:42 PM
Nothing to add except to say I love watching this thread.  I rarely see pieces like these over here -  love the fried egg plate and the bubbly vase with the different coloured rim. 
m
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on January 11, 2013, 05:20:22 PM
Thanks for the kind words, m -- and for watching our thread :)

I would think that the "fried eggs" plate is rather scarce in comparison to many other pieces (I brought it back from my Hamburg holiday).
The big plates seem harder to find than vases and bowls -- at least this one was the first I ever saw...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on January 25, 2013, 04:08:13 PM
Just like Michael's, but with a topaz top, this is my Svoboda 7421...  (Wonderful piece!)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 25, 2013, 05:07:25 PM
Love it, Anik!
It's all bubbly and delicate, then the topaz contrasts by being thick and substantial - but then the two gel together so well - it reminds me of some deep sea creature, opening up in the moving waters...
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: flying free on January 25, 2013, 05:21:40 PM
they are superb, I love them
m
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on January 25, 2013, 09:49:25 PM
Lovely colour, Anik!
Is it a big one?

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on January 25, 2013, 10:38:36 PM
Michael, hasn't anyone ever told you that it's not the size that counts?   ;)
It's the small one, though still a perfectly substantial piece.

P.S. Thank you Sue, m and Michael for your words of praise.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on January 26, 2013, 09:56:48 AM
;D Size does matter!

No, honestly, my question was rather if you knew what the difference was between PN 7421/11 and 7422/11 (they look identical in the pattern book).
Mine at 15 cm was quite easy to ID...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on January 26, 2013, 10:34:00 AM
Of course size matters... who needs political correctness, anyway?  ;D

The pattern numbers for these Svoboda vases confuse me as well.  My vase is 10cm tall and 11cm wide.  I suppose it's the 7421/11 or the 7422/11.  As you say, the drawings are exactly alike...
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on January 26, 2013, 10:50:34 AM
I wonder if the difference is somewhere in the bubbly glass?
7421: Kristal + Soda + R (whatever the "R" might refer to)
7422: Kristal + Sypani Soda
7423: Kristal + Soda

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on January 27, 2013, 06:00:47 AM
I wish I knew the answer, Michael. (It's a shame there isn't a legend included on the first page, like the 50s pattern books have.)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on February 15, 2013, 10:10:38 AM
After some time a new addition (and a quite exciting one -- well, at least to me ;) )

Early Emanuel Beranek bowl from 1950, PN 5068; snail / nautilus shape, bubbly glass decorated with internal red spiral, lenght 20 cm (should be 15 according to the pattern book).
A style not often seen, similar pieces were designed by Milena Veliskova.
Sort of a transition from the Pulegoso pieces (like the lovely ones Craig showed recently) to the organic style of the 1950s.

And an interesting circular label I have not seen before...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on February 15, 2013, 11:19:03 AM
A great find, Michael. It's the first I've seen.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on February 16, 2013, 01:44:23 AM
Fabulous find, Michael. Not a piece I've ever seen before. The label is a generic export label, but would be different from the usual label we see because Skrdlovice wasn't part of the UUR until 1957.

You've motivated me to add my latest Vizners, one of my all time favourite designs.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on February 16, 2013, 07:00:30 AM
David, truly marvelous vases. In case you ever need a person to dust your collection, keep it company, or simply oooooo and aaaaaaa over it, I'm your man -- er, woman. I'll even do it free of charge. But only because I like you that much. 
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on February 16, 2013, 09:42:39 AM
David, I am glad I motivated you to show your stunning Vizner vases -- no wonder they are your favourite ones! :)

In Vienna all quiet on the Skrdlovice front (apart from the Beranek piece, which is, funnily, as dear to me as any of my Vizners -- but I don't own a Vizner piece which can stand up to those you showed).

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on February 16, 2013, 11:02:10 PM
Thanks, Anik and Rocco. As far as your offer of dusting, Anik, I did pick up a little dust when I ran my finger along my display case yesterday. Just tell me when your plane gets in and I'll even pick you up at the the airport.

David

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on February 17, 2013, 02:13:39 PM
Great pieces from Rocco and Langhaugh and obscurities in the other thread... all perfect examples of different phases of the factory, really nice to see them owned by caring collectors who value them,

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on February 24, 2013, 12:23:15 PM
My only Skrdlovice find from a short trip to Switzerland:
small (10 cm high) blue and purple vase with 4 circular indentions, has the remnants of the unusual bigger label I have on one of my Jaroslav Beranek vases as well.

A search through all the pattern books from the 1950s didn't turn up anything similar ???

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on February 24, 2013, 03:44:27 PM
Michael,

Interesting piece. The nearest I can think is a Strobochova from 1964, but that one doesn't have the surface features. The colours look very much like Stahlikova from 1958/59.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on February 24, 2013, 03:55:45 PM
Nice piece, Michael!  But I was thinking more along the lines of Veliskova 5517. (Yes, I know I'm wrong.)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on February 24, 2013, 04:03:54 PM
5517 looks like a possibility, although it would be difficult to attribute on the pattern book alone as it's a little sketchy. The date is a little bit of a problem given the label.  Thy didn't start using that label until 1957, and I don't know if production or supplies of a 1955 piece would continue until 1957.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on February 24, 2013, 04:38:01 PM
Thanks both for your help.
I checked those pattern numbers, but no real match IMHO. 5517 looks like it  has a lot of little "pimpels", while mine has 4 rather evenly distributed circular indentions; neither does the shape seem to fit.
Maybe it is a Strobachova piece gone wrong?

The combination of the design (which looks mid 1950s) and the colourway (which looks early 1960s) is a little strange...
And I had thought when I bought it that a quick trail through the pattern books would reveal the PN immediately ;D

@David: did you see that I found me the "Holy Grail" (well at least to me) of Murano glass, a substantial Flavio Poli piece?

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on February 24, 2013, 06:34:38 PM
Michael,

No, I hadn't seen your Poli piece. Fabulous!  The kind of piece all Murano collectors dream of collecting.  Congratulations.

I wrote Stahlikova when I should have Veliskova for the colours. I have a couple of pieces from 1958 in those colours, so both the style and the colours are late 50's. Of course, that doesn't mean the piece is late 50's.  I'm waiting with keen anticipation to see if bOBA has any thoughts.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on March 01, 2013, 04:17:40 PM
Two more :D

Jirina Zertova threaded ashtray, 14 cm diameter, PN 6511 (a little bit unusual execution as the blue threading is almost completely marvered in the brown glass).

Chunky Vizner vase, weighing 1.5 kg at a height of 13 cm; not really sure about the PN ???, but with that style of neck it should be from the 1970s I guess...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on March 02, 2013, 04:41:21 PM
How odd about the Zertova... but it's a beautiful piece. It's a great shape and a gorgeous colour.
Great find, Michael!

The other piece is interesting, though for some reason, it isn't making me oooo and aaaaa. Could it be the 7603?  It looks like a good match.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on March 02, 2013, 09:20:11 PM
Thank you, Anik! :-*

The Zertova piece is very attractive, goes well with the Palecek mica vase. (And it is in pristine condition, complete with red label).
What I hadn't expected is that it is colourless glass cased in brown glass; I always thought they were brown throughout...

The Vizner vase is much better in real life, so chunky and massive, I am really happy about it (I love the fat flat rim, very Vizner, my first piece with this feature). It was even appreciated in my household as an attractive vase, doesn't always happen with Skrdlovice ;D
I am sure you are right with the PN you suggested, though it looks like the pattern had some regularity to it in the drawing, while it is totally random in my vase.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on March 03, 2013, 04:33:21 PM
Two really interesting pieces, especially as Vizner and Zertova seem to be my main interests right now.  The brown vase does seem like Vizner, but I can't see a pattern for it. The surface treatment looks very like the patterns around 8225, and there's a later version around 1986. The flat rim seems to be a feature of pieces around 1973-2. Oliva did a surface treatment like this as well, (I think they're sometimes called onion pieces), but the flat top is very Vizner.  A good research project and a great find.


David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on March 04, 2013, 06:17:58 AM
Michael,

I see there is similar piece fro sale on eBay.de. http://www.ebay.de/itm/Vase-Frantisek-Vizner-Skrdlovice-um-1970-/320983459046?pt=Glas_Kristall&hash=item4abc1ae4e6

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on March 04, 2013, 05:17:07 PM
Thank you David!
I saw that vase on German ebay, it was the only similar piece I could find...

If the rather regular pattern in the drawing doesn't indicate too much I would think the PN Anik suggested (7603) seems most probable atm, as hight, rim and overall shape are right.
That one seems to be a relative of the pieces from PN 7541, where the drawing of the hotworked decoration looks a little bit more random -- and more similar to my vase.

BWT, >> this (https://picasaweb.google.com/lasilove/CzechoslovakiaSkrdlovice#5841990277277579906) is gorgeous, where is :mrgreen:?

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on March 04, 2013, 06:38:54 PM
On looking at everything again, I've come round to Anik's point of view, that the piece is indeed 7603.  The pattern 7603 is shown with all the lines running vertically or horizontally. When I looked at the pieces I have from that series, none of them quite achieve the same consistency of the markings being either vertical or horizontal. Yet the alternative, 8225, is far more organic and on the diagonal. So, I'd lean towards a confident attribution of 7603. Congratulations on a great piece, again.

David

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on March 08, 2013, 10:29:39 AM
Finally I got around to take pictures of my new additions

1. Beranek piece by Ales Valner, probalby around 1992, but I'm unsure of the exact pattern number. It resembles 9298, but that one is taller.
2. Finally, the tall version of Ladislav Palecek's very nice blue and green 7719

Also picked up a nice little Gabrhel (I'll put it at my website if anyone's curious)

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on March 08, 2013, 03:27:21 PM
Astrid, it's so good to see you back! :)

Nice items. I do believe your purple vase is the 9298 (it was made in two sizes according to the catalogue: 20cm and 28cm).

By the way, your Gabrhel pieces are lovely (not to mention all the other gorgeous glass). Super collections!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on March 08, 2013, 04:03:20 PM
Astrid, it's so good to see you back! :)

Nice items. I do believe your purple vase is the 9298 (it was made in two sizes according to the catalogue: 20cm and 28cm).


I hope I'll find a bit more time to hang around here and collect more Skrdlovice (of course)... Thanks for the update on the 9298.

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on March 09, 2013, 01:02:53 PM
Nice additions, Astrid!
The Palecek in particular is a great design IMHO (I only have the small one).
OT: I love your Suhajek threaded vase with the long cylindrical neck -- seems much scarcer than the short necked ones...

One new addition here, quite unusual and tall (30 cm) Exnar vase, PN 8207/30 or 8206/30, grey and bubbly.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on March 09, 2013, 01:42:41 PM
Oh Michael, that's a fabulous, fabulous, fabulous vase!!!  I'm jealous.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on March 09, 2013, 02:56:48 PM
Interesting addition, Michael, I've never seen that one before. I was looking at the patterns, but if there's a difference between 8206 and 8207, the only thing I can imagine is that 8206 looks a bit more oval at the top (but that could just be the drawing).

Astrid

OT PS - I like my Suhajek as well, couldn't believe it when I found myself the only bidder at the time. Too bad we don't have this sort of thread for other good Czech pieces not being Skrdlovice/Beranek... but unless marked solid IDs are more difficult there.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on March 10, 2013, 12:25:53 PM
The Exnar piece is really impressive...
I did recognize it as Skrdlovice before noticing the label, but thought it was a Svobodova design from the 1960s (browsing the catalogues showed otherwise; but the idea is the same).

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on March 10, 2013, 02:42:41 PM
My newest piece is a Frantisek Vizner lampbase from 1968. It's 24,5cm tall with a very neatly drilled and bevelled hole and well for the cable.  (I'm not quite sure of the pattern number. It seems the pattern books only have vases and candleholders in this design.)

It's a good piece. :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on March 10, 2013, 03:24:24 PM
It's a beautiful piece! (But your round multicolour one is even better)
You can illuminate your home exclusively with Skrdlovice lamps, soon ;D

I wonder how the original light fixture of those looked like -- they all seem to come without...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on March 10, 2013, 05:13:32 PM
Hmmm... do you think the lamps were sold with a light fixture in place?
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on March 10, 2013, 07:15:25 PM
Not by the glasswork itself, I guess -- but by some retailer or home furnishing shop?
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on March 10, 2013, 11:30:28 PM
Michael: The Exnar piece looks far better in your photos than in the pattern book. I couldn't see the attraction there. Again, soemthing I've never seen before.  Congratulations.

And as for the lamp lady, very nice find. Are you going to make them into functioning lamp?

David

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on March 10, 2013, 11:39:04 PM
I've been meaning to add this piece for a while. It's not in the pattern books, although it's a Vizner design for a glass symposium held, presumably, at Skrdlovice. It's monumental.  One of my favourites. 22.5 cm high and 4Kg.

David

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on March 11, 2013, 06:57:19 AM
Oooooooooooooooooo, David, that is a remarkable and beautiful piece of art glass! WOW.

P.S. Though I know it's a shame, my lamp bases will remain quasi-vases for the time being.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on March 11, 2013, 06:31:27 PM
Oh WOW, that is something! Great piece.

One of the things I like about collecting Skrdlovice -- there are beautiful pieces from all periods to be found, some of them readily available, many rather scarce; but also the one-offs like this stunning vase...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on March 11, 2013, 09:16:46 PM
Beautiful piece, David! Do you know at what time approx. it was made? Given the style I'd suspect '80s...

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on March 11, 2013, 11:37:36 PM
Thanks for the compliments. I'm still trying to track down details such as date. I'll pass the info on if I find out.

And Anik, shouldn't the guiding principle of the lamp vases be,"Use it or lose it?"

David


Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on March 23, 2013, 12:00:08 PM
Two very different pieces added:

- great Jaroslav Svoboda vase, PN 8606/32
Not a range seen very commonly...

- brown cased in green hotworked 1950s vase, 22.5 cm high; PN not really obvious to me, so any guesses appreciated ;)
As the pattern is not very clearly seen in the pics I will have to describe it: 3 spiralling groves like in the "Andromeda" range, with round indentations inbetween.
Looks a bit like E. Beranek PN 5650, but the height is wrong.
With a lot of wishful thinking it could be PN 5504, Jan Kotik.
But there are some more candidates...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on March 24, 2013, 04:12:08 PM
Oooo, I love your Svoboda vase, Michael. We don't see those around, do we? What a wonderful find!
I also like your 50s Skrdlovice piece (good colours) but I can't quite help you with a PN... Have you taken a look through the "Magic of Glass" photos? Maybe you could find a match that way.


Edited to add:  This Kotik piece from the exhibition looks close: Magic of glass 3 (https://picasaweb.google.com/104509467784289017506/MagicOfGlass3?authkey=Gv1sRgCObJqrf-rcTALw#5424996090798438482)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on March 24, 2013, 05:25:14 PM
Thanks Anik!
The Svoboda is really good I think, and the biggest size...

Robert once said that that piece from the Pardubice exhibition is not by Kotik, one of the very few mistakes there. It is similar to my vase, though...
But it is always nice to stroll through the exhibition pics and pattern books, even if nothing conclusive emerges :)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on March 24, 2013, 05:32:42 PM
Robert once said that that piece from the Pardubice exhibition is not by Kotik, one of the very few mistakes there.

Oh dear, I either must have not been paying attention, or my brain forgot about that. :-[

But you're right... it is lovely to look through the photos (even more so than the pattern books).
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on April 12, 2013, 01:18:02 PM
ATM nothing to be found here at the fleamarkets, so I was very happy about getting this lovely vase as a present:

Emanuel Beranek 1950, 15.5 cm high.

Not sure about the PN, but this design was shown at the Pardubice exhibition: >> Link (https://picasaweb.google.com/104509467784289017506/MagicOfGlass3?authkey=Gv1sRgCObJqrf-rcTALw&noredirect=1#5424997527583170450)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on April 13, 2013, 10:59:42 AM
I like your vase, Michael... its simplicity is appealing.  If it is from 1950, could it be the 50112?

A new piece also accidentally entered my collection: a Hora 8519. It is so ridiculously large (19cm tall, over 20cm wide and 2369g) I found it MUCH too charming to let go.  :-[
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on April 13, 2013, 04:35:17 PM
Anik, a really impressive piece. But I have to confess it would enter my collection only by accident as well  ;) (But if I stumbled over one I would surely buy it)

I think the PN you suggested for my small vase is the only one which makes sense in the 1950 pattern book, though the drawing does look quite different...

Having complained yesterday that there is nothing at the local fleamarkets to be found at the moment, today's Naschmarkt visit proved otherwise:

- bold and beautiful Stahlikova vase in the blue and purple colourway. 22.5 cm high, 14 cm wide. One of the best I have seen from this design (while my >> other one (https://picasaweb.google.com/107330317087089352634/CzechSkrdlovice?authkey=Gv1sRgCN3F85P1opTf5gE#5725389903834768850) is one of the worst and wonkiest ;D )
I won't even deal with PN, they all look too similar...

- Emanuel Beranek PN 5911, 15 cm high; a little bit unusual as the whole piece is in the (uranium) green and blue colourway, with the pouches in 4 additional colours. Others I have seen so far had a colourless base glass.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on April 13, 2013, 04:51:25 PM
Ooooo Michael, you've had an exciting day!  It just goes to show that maybe you should complain a little bit more.  ;D

Though I'm not very fond of this Stahlikova design, your vase is the most beautiful and well-proportioned one I've ever seen. It really is something special!  The small vase is very odd -- I've never seen one with so many colours. I wonder what the glassblower was thinking?

So glad your luck at the market picked up. Yay!  (I haven't found anything exciting at my Sunday market in such a long while... maybe some of your good fortune will rub off on me when I go tomorrow. :) )
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on April 13, 2013, 07:32:10 PM
Well, as spring is here now, I hope that a lot of nice glass wil come your way tomorrow ;)
The Stahlikova is much better in real life...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on April 13, 2013, 08:03:57 PM
Oh Michael, I wasn't very clear with what I was saying... your Stahlikova looks absolutely beautiful!!!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on April 14, 2013, 03:46:57 AM
Good buys, Michael. I agree with you about the variability of the Stahlikova design,  and that your new one is the best you've seen. I know mine is wonky although my blue and pink is very nice.

Anik, I really like the Hora piece, one of my favourite designs of his.

I was at an antique show in Vancouver today and a surprising amount of Skrdlovice, although nothing very rare. Tomorrow I'll post a couple of  Vizners I've bought recently.

David

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on April 14, 2013, 02:00:47 PM
Oh Anik sorry, it was me who wasn't clear...
I wasn't refering to your statement, rather saying that it looked even better in real life -- the third dimension (the thin pulled lobe opposite the massive "body") is missing in my pics.

David, curious to see your new Vizners!

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on April 15, 2013, 12:20:35 AM
Two of my new Vizners. Both look like typical Vizners, monumental, elegant, and simple.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on April 15, 2013, 07:27:39 AM
David, two more great Vizners I have not seen before...
The first is more beautiful, while the second is more interesting :)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on April 16, 2013, 05:30:00 AM
I really have to think of something other than WOW to say... David, both pieces are wonderfully magnificent!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on April 26, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Here is my newest 'fancy' piece of Skrdlovice art glass... A beautiful clear (with a slight azur tinge) Vizner 6828 which is 18,5cm tall, 13cm wide and weighs 3,4kg.  Yay me!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 26, 2013, 12:00:21 PM
Yay you indeedy, Anik! I love that.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on April 26, 2013, 06:49:45 PM
Great Vizner vases all round! I (would) like them all!


Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on April 27, 2013, 01:52:59 AM
Fantastic addition, Anik. I was looking at your Skrdlovice collection on Picasa this morning, and it struck me, not just how much it's grown, but how the quality has increased. It's a very strong collection now.

David


 
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on April 27, 2013, 03:34:32 PM
Thank you Sue, Robert and David! It's lovely to show off to such a captive audience.


Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 27, 2013, 03:48:56 PM
You're well worth following, Anik.  :-*
I have learned loads from you,  you have exceptional taste - and you have the gift of having confidence in your taste.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on April 27, 2013, 05:24:32 PM
Fabulous Vizner vase, Anik! And wow -- 3.4 kg :o
Wish there was more of his work available here...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on April 27, 2013, 08:31:21 PM
Thank you, Sue.  [Blush]

Michael, if it makes you feel any better, I wasn't lucky enough to find my fabulous Vizner here... It came my way from the Czech Republic (and the person who sold it to me was kind enough to hold it for a few months until I managed to collect enough money to pay for it.)   [Continued blush]
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on April 27, 2013, 08:43:05 PM
That's the right way to build a strong collection (do you hear some envy in my voice? -- I am more the hoarding type ::))

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: michajoli on May 01, 2013, 10:04:51 AM
Hi guys!

Just want to show you a Vizner vase i found some months ago. In another Skrdlovice thread here in the forum i read that it was designed in 1969.
Height is 28,5cm. Here some pics of it (i will try later to post a few of them here): http://jpegbay.com/gallery/002587338-3.html#3

Regards
Micha
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 01, 2013, 05:57:35 PM
Micha, that's a lovely piece!  I think it's the first I've seen in amber too.
A really great find. Thank you for sharing it with us.  :)

P.S. I've been slightly naughty and I've copied one of your photos to post here. It is small, but at least we can have a general 'visual' until you upload yours to the board.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: michajoli on May 01, 2013, 07:09:50 PM
Hi Anik!

I think too that this one is quite rare, didn't find another one online.
I don't have the time to be too often over here (most of my time i am in the pottery and glass forum). What i want to say is that it is always a "big thing" for me to post pics here, i first have to search and try if and how it works. So if you want to do so, i would be glad if you could post some more of my pics for me from jpegbay over here?!

Kind regards
Micha
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 01, 2013, 07:35:59 PM
Posting photos for Micha... Frantisek Vizner 6953 / 28cm in a beautiful topaz  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: michajoli on May 01, 2013, 09:18:23 PM
Thank you Anik  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on May 01, 2013, 10:45:46 PM
I think it is a great example in an unusual colourway for this pattern too. though topaz is typical for Skrdlovice, all of this pattern that I have seen so far tend to be green or azure, all are great but the topaz adds a new dimension, great


Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 02, 2013, 07:17:53 AM
Beautiful Vizner vase, Micha, and the darker colour suits it really well!

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: michajoli on May 02, 2013, 07:58:31 AM
:-)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 02, 2013, 10:21:15 AM
Thanks for taking the time and trouble to show us, Micha.  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: michajoli on May 02, 2013, 10:36:47 AM
you are welcome Sue :-)

(I still have some interesting vases to show here, i will do so as soon as i find the time.)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: vetraio50 on May 12, 2013, 11:52:24 AM
Hi from Sydney, Australia! I bought a torpedo vase on an auction site a couple of weeks ago.

It is another piece from 1959 "Kollektion Blanka".

 :D
 
I think it is Emanuel Berānek - 5907.
vāza: 4 barevnē otvory = 2 nahoře / 2 dole
It has its original "Bohemia Glass" sticker.

Two high and two low 'holes' and four colours an pinkish apricot base that fades to a blue at the top.
There is a yellow, a pink and two blues within the 'holes'.

It is 32.5 cm high.

I have put it here with another Emanuel Berānek - 5902.
It retains its gold sticker “Hand made Skrdlovice Czechoslovakia” on its foot.
It is h. 23 cm. The blue fades to pink.

I've had a lot of fun finding new colours and patterns as the vase turns and the optics weave their magic.

 8)

The Kollektion Blanka reference comes from the Glasrevue 1960 - 5/6 in an article by Ivo Digrin "Ein Jüngling von Sechzig Jahren".
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: michajoli on May 12, 2013, 12:19:29 PM
Beautiful :-)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: vetraio50 on May 12, 2013, 12:23:28 PM
Many thanks michajoli. I love the Frantisek Vizner 6953 too!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 12, 2013, 01:54:21 PM
Those are scrumptious!  ;D
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 13, 2013, 07:23:47 PM
Vetraio50, thank you for sharing you Skrdlovice finds with us.

The more, the merrier!  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on May 13, 2013, 08:39:55 PM
One of my recent additions from the Dutch collector's fair, a 7425 by Svododa. Not new to this thread, but certainly new to my collection. The story I got from the seller is that it was picked up by a member of a Dutch sports club that made a visit to Czechoslovakia in the '80s. Which is sort of the right date for this one, I guess.

Oh, and I picked up another 6915, this time in clear and cobalt. It was too cheap to resist, even if I already got one in light blue and cobalt.

Astrid

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 14, 2013, 05:00:14 AM
Svoboda's 7425 is a wonderful design and one of my Svoboda Skrdlovice-era favourites. Astrid, yours is the first I've seen in a colour other than dark pink... I think it's an exciting find.

Congratulations and thank you for sharing!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 14, 2013, 08:47:48 AM
I love the Svoboda vase, Astrid -- it is on my wishlist for quite a while, but the only one I have seen here was in an high-end vintage design store, labeled "Murano -- Galliano Ferro" and cost 350,- Euro.
I told the seller that it is Czech, but she refused to believe me (as usual 8) )

The Emanuel Beranek torpedo vase from Australia is great, too; it is almost as colourful as its chunky brother I showed recently ;D >> Link (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,47490.msg296511.html#msg296511)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: astrid on May 14, 2013, 08:27:25 PM
Michael, I wouldn't have bought mine if it had been 350, as you might guess :). The fact that so many dealers apparently can get away with wrongly labelling their wares, and asking 3 times what would sound reasonable to me never fails to amaze me... 

Astrid
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 26, 2013, 02:21:00 PM
Another nice piece of 1950s Skrdlovice in my collection:
vase by Alice Maresova Smolkova (thanks Kevin G and Jindrich for researching the name in the pattern book >> Link (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,40346.msg262344.html#msg262344)), PN 5514.
Was also featured in the Pardubice exhibition.

And a funny bird in Azure by Jan Exnar, PN 8842/10

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 26, 2013, 03:08:10 PM
Michael, I am so envious of your 'big lips' Smolkova vase!  I think it is one of the most interesting 50s Skrdlovice pieces around. Such a fantastic find.

P.S. The Exnar bird is lovely. :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: adam20 on May 30, 2013, 03:19:47 PM
Here is a Hora vase just bought. Signed 'Hora' to base - I think it's c1986.

Adam
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 31, 2013, 06:05:00 AM
Nice vase, Adam! It was designed in 1986 by Hora, but it was also later produced at Beranek glassworks. I suspect because it's signed "Hora" yours is later. The pattern number 8622.

Thank you for adding it to this thread.  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on June 03, 2013, 01:56:15 PM
Hi,  I haven't posted any new pieces for a while, so here are three Vizner pieces and a Zertova plate. I hope you like them.


David


 
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on June 03, 2013, 02:47:41 PM
Top notch Skrdlovice, David... gorgeous items! Love them all and ooooooozing with envy.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 03, 2013, 06:52:32 PM
Great pieces, David -- all of them, but I particularly love the Zertova plate.

Can you give me the PN of the green Vizner vase with the square base? (2nd pic)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on June 03, 2013, 08:34:15 PM
Michael,

Thanks for the comments.  I don't think the Vizner you mention has a pattern number. I've seen it the CGR as an architectural detail, usually nine of them together, either in green or blue.  It's very roughly made.


David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 04, 2013, 07:25:56 AM
Thanks a lot David! If possible, can you tell me which CGR issue shows this vase?

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on June 05, 2013, 02:23:45 PM
Michael,

Sorry, I  didn't keep a notes  It would be around 1971-3. The piece was  part of a  glass sculpture, rather than a vase. This isn't the reference I was thinking about, but it does show the sculpture. https://plus.google.com/photos/104509467784289017506/albums/5443353624366920113/5443354251514321746?banner=pwa&authkey=CIzmyY_2jvmt9QE&pid=5443354251514321746&oid=104509467784289017506

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on June 05, 2013, 03:15:27 PM
Looks good to me David, all the pieces look great actually!

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 05, 2013, 07:24:23 PM
Thanks a lot for the link, David! I had looked through that catalogue, but somehow didn't recognize it.
Does indeed look like a part of that sculpture :)

Michael

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 16, 2013, 07:15:25 PM
Not much Skrdlovice at the fleamarkets at the moment; I saw a lovely Oliva vase today, but it had several cracks running through it :(

But a Jaroslav Beranek "Andromeda" vase came my way, a real MONSTER at 30 cm height, weighing around 5 kg.
My forst piece made after the "relaunch" of the range in 1966, my other three are from the 1950s I guess...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on June 17, 2013, 07:49:09 PM
Michael, I've never seen one that big... and in such a pretty colour too.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 18, 2013, 11:16:21 AM
Thank you, Anik :-*
It is quite an impressive piece. I think David has one of these monsters, too.
Had to carry it around 20 minutes at the fleamarket, and my arm nearly broke off ;D

Here it is in >> CGR 1966/4 (https://picasaweb.google.com/104509467784289017506/Glasrevue19664?authkey=Gv1sRgCJvk77mtmfDipgE&noredirect=1#5443555472928224642), just a bit lighter coloured (the colour combo of mine seems to be "Violett mit Kristall".

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Nemmie on June 18, 2013, 12:04:23 PM
Michael, I've never seen one that big... and in such a pretty colour too.

 :-[ ;D
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 29, 2013, 11:36:38 AM
Two Zertova pieces added to my collection.

I have the beaked vase already in pink/amethyst, but the Uranium green / clear version is rather nice, too. PN 6041.
And a great blue PN 6805/17 :)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on June 29, 2013, 08:19:05 PM
Love the 6805 Zertova, Michael... It's one of my favourite Skrdlovice designs. Both pieces are great, but the blue is the "most great".  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 30, 2013, 09:50:51 AM
Thank you, Anik!

Love them both, but the 6805 a little more, too ;)
The 6041 is quite impressive at 32 cm height, though...

Found both locally, so nice prize and I could bring them home safely myself ::)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on July 01, 2013, 05:33:11 AM
Two more great finds. I'm with you in regards your preference for 6805, but the 6041 is my favourite example of that style.


David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on July 01, 2013, 07:24:08 AM
Thanks David!
Though a little bit old fashioned, the 6041 vases are very beautiful...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: glassobsessed on July 03, 2013, 07:02:44 PM
Thought it was worth adding this beauty, my thanks to Robert for providing the details: Svoboda 1986, pattern number 8608 (27cm tall).

John
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on July 04, 2013, 09:13:06 AM
Great vase, John -- and rather on the scarce side I think.

I was very happy when I spotted mine in a small second hand shop; it was the first piece from this range I have ever seen >> Link (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,47490.msg294862.html#msg294862)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: glassobsessed on July 04, 2013, 09:40:17 PM
Your taller example looks very fine Michael. I turned this vase down the first time I saw it as I did not know what it was, then I kicked myself when I saw a photo of one and realised. Luckily, the seller still had it for sale a few months later when I ran into them again. 8)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: adam20 on July 06, 2013, 12:16:41 AM
 Emanuel Beranek 5909 -- modernist rocket vase bought on Etsy for a very reasonable amount, fits well with the rest of my Skrdlovice.

Adam


Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on July 13, 2013, 11:46:42 AM
Lovely Emanuel Beranek vase, Adam! Wish I had bought the amethyst coloured one I saw at the fleamarket some time ago...

Some new pieces here as well:

- my favourite addition: early Veliskova dish, bubbly glass with aubergine / green stripes (similar style to my E. Beranek snail shaped bowl), 17.5 cm long, 10 cm wide. PN 5037 I think.
- big dark blue Vizner vase with gold aventurine (or mica?), stands a little over 25 cm tall, PN 7622 or 7623 or 7626
- Palecek vase in blue and clear, with worn Beranek label, 29 cm high, PN 7719/28

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on July 13, 2013, 04:06:49 PM
Great items, gentlemen! All lovely and very different examples of Skrdlovice art glass.

P.S. Michael, according to Jindrich's Vizner DVD, yours is the 7623. (The 7626 is green while the 7622 has got a different internal pattern).
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on July 14, 2013, 11:19:33 AM
Thanks, Anik! (And I wish you wonderful holidays) :)

The Vizner is a very attractive (and impressivly big) piece, doesn't photograph so well unfortunately.
I was confused by the pattern numbers as similar vases are shown as PN 7626 in the >> 1989 Skrdlovice catalogue (https://picasaweb.google.com/104509467784289017506/SkrdloviceGlassexport1989?authkey=Gv1sRgCMqW0Lz7qcHkzgE&noredirect=1#5514573854909694466) and in the >> Beranek glass catalogue (https://picasaweb.google.com/104509467784289017506/BeranekGlassworks?authkey=Gv1sRgCOvIkvmg7-zidA&noredirect=1#5448897919551520242) (though with white instead of gold).

But the Veliskova dish made me even more happy...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on August 13, 2013, 08:50:02 PM
I haven't posted much recently, but thought there might be some interest in a recent Vizner acquisition. It's 22 cm tall, weighs an astounding 5.58 kg, and is from the early 1970's.

David 
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on August 14, 2013, 04:34:44 AM
An impressive piece, David!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on August 14, 2013, 05:10:20 PM
Love the colour and the flared rim. Great vase, David!

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on August 14, 2013, 07:00:02 PM
Great pieces. Just on this page are enough reasons to collect Skrdlovice! The Langhaugh vase and the Veliskova piece are both rare and significant. The Langhuagh vase is on p. 133 of Ricke and the Veliskova piece is in a volume by Petrova. There is something great about owning pieces that are in short supply and are already featured in notable publications. Very nice things!


Robert
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on August 15, 2013, 08:54:13 AM
Thank you so much for the kind words, Robert!
To find a piece like the Veliskova dish is, to me, really a highlight in collecting Skrdlovice glass.

And interesting to learn about the book by Sylva Petrova -- never heard of that. It seems hard to come by, not a single copy available on Amazon etc.
I have the Ricke book, but he (a little unjustly IMHO) omits designers like Veliskova, Stahlikova or Emanuel Beranek...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on August 15, 2013, 12:51:07 PM
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=petrova&bi=0&bx=off&ds=30&recentlyadded=all&sortby=17&sts=t&tn=bohemian&x=113&y=13

Not sure if this link will be OK.

I agree that most books on Czech glass make serious errors in neglecting to mention in any detail these makers-designers. One thing I find annoying is repetition of the same piece again and again. The very famous pieces by anyone, just become more famous and their other work becomes even less so. I know why, but eventually you have six books on your shelf where fifty pages are the same. With Mark Hill and Marcus Newhall, I think their work has opened the door a little more, in what may be considered worth writing about. It seems non Czech writers, to an extent bring new eyes to the subject. Having said this, there are things in Petrova, Langhamer, Ricke, that all add to the whole picture. But there are plenty of designers like Veliskova and Zemek who are not really given enough space in any of these volumes. Partly, I think the problem is an embarrassment of riches, that there is so much ground to cover in post war Czech glass, that no single volume can do the whole subject justice...   


In collecting Skrdlovice, it is great that we all have a chance to acquire significant pieces if we look hard enough. I am happy if I find one or two Skrdlovice pieces a year of that standard, like the Langhaugh piece too, so much depends on luck. Part of the excitement of collecting.


Robert
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 06, 2013, 05:13:55 PM
Quite a while since I posted some new Skrdlovice pieces, but it is getting harder to find items which haven't been in our thread yet ;D

Here we go:

- my favourite addition: Zertova jardiniere, PN 6032. The red spot decor seems less commonly seen than the one with bubbles.

- 1950s vase, 11.5 cm high. I would think this is a Zemek design, PN 5530

- and my second Vizner "beer" vase, PN 7411/12, small (13 cm high) but chunky, a little unusual with a casing in Azure rather than clear glass

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on September 06, 2013, 06:01:16 PM
Lovely finds, Michael, but I'm especially taken with the Zertova... WOW!


Some new pieces also came into my collection:  a Jezek 7418 which is much more impressive in real life than it is in photos, a 'quilted' Hora 8616 which my husband says is one of the ugliest pieces of glass I've got, but I think is great, and finally, a wonderful 'beranek'.  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 06, 2013, 07:08:03 PM
Love all 3 of them!
The Jezek is really great, never saw it before... (I guess it takes up quite some space ;D )
I saw a few of the Hora vases online, advertised as Vizner usually. I think they are far from ugly, especially in this white colourway.
And the Beranek is lovely, too.

And thanks, a red-dot Zertova piece was on my wishlist for quite some time, so I was very happy to run across it at the fleamarket last week...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on September 06, 2013, 07:16:55 PM
Michael, the Zertova was a FLEAMARKET find?  Goodness me, you're so lucky... I'm jealous (in the nicest of ways) and extremely happy for you!  x

I think it's beautiful, and I love the pinkish dots.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 17, 2013, 09:41:06 AM
One (or better: three) less on my wishlist, and around 11 kg of glass added to my collection ;D

Svoboda 7425 set, quite unusual as all three are oversized.
vase: a little over 29 cm (!) tall, 10 cm diameter, a monster at 5 kg.
jardiniere 1: 15 cm high, 13 cm diameter.
jardiniere 2: 13 cm high, 15 cm diameter.

Two have remnants of handwritten labels with the pattern number 7425, so I am quite confident that they are Srkdlovice production and not Svoboda AGS.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on September 17, 2013, 05:34:07 PM
Wonderful set, Michael!  I've got it too, and I love the heaviness and quality of each piece. The suspended bubbles are just perfect!   
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 20, 2013, 08:43:56 AM
Thank you, Anik!
The funny thing is that 13 cm resp. 15 cm seems not big, but they are huge :)

And one more phantastic vase by Jaroslav Svoboda added to my collection, PN 7501/28 (29 cm high), great colours.
Always nice to find a piece which was included in the Ricke book...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on September 21, 2013, 08:09:23 AM
The Svoboda 7501 is GREAT!  Love the colors in yours.

Michael, aren't you running out of room for all your beautiful glass?  I think I could make a bit of space for some of your pieces here. I won't even charge you rent. I'm just that nice.  :P
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 21, 2013, 10:00:52 AM
Thank you, Anik! It is one of my favourite Srkdlovice pieces.

Unfortunately you are right that I have been running out of space lately, even had to rent a storage room 8)
And it is getting very hard to decide which pieces have to go there, and which ones are allowed to stay...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 22, 2013, 03:14:04 PM
The Berlin fleamarkets were very kind to me :D -- 3 Skrdlovice pieces added to my collection.

- favourite addition: lovely Stahlikova/Veliskova vase from 1960, PN 6036, a little over 26 cm high.
similar to my Svoboda bubbly vases it has the remnants of the pattern number written to the glass.
- tall Vizner 7409/31, just short of 30 cm high.
- big and very heavy Vizner "screw" shape vase, PN 7410/25, 25.5 cm high at around 4 kg.

Thanks for looking!
Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on October 22, 2013, 04:03:20 PM
Michael, your Skrdlovice collection is probably the best one there is around!  Love your newest pieces... The Vizners are super, but the Stahlikova/Veliskova is breathtaking!

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on October 23, 2013, 02:13:19 PM
Great pieces Michael, all quite scarce, valuable additions to your collection. Berlin fleamarkets seem to be excellent. I know a guy who bought a rare Zahour vase there for forty euros, he was very pleased too! However, you do well in Vienna too... amazing finds.

Robert
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 23, 2013, 05:14:08 PM
Thanks Anik, Robert!
Three good Skrdlovice pieces within two hours was not bad.

The Stahlikova vase was one I really looked out for, so I was even more pleased to find it...
Though my collection has improved quite a bit, some of our fellow collectors have better ones ;)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Paul C on November 23, 2013, 06:01:35 PM
Hi there,

I bought this vase by Ladislav Palecek - Is its pattern no. 7414 or 7514?

I found this page http://bohemiabloggen.blogspot.co.uk/2010_10_24_archive.html says 7414 but Anik describes it as 7514 on Etsy.

Many thanks
Paul
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on November 23, 2013, 06:41:13 PM
Lovely vase, Paul.
Anik is certainly right, PN 7514 :)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Paul C on November 23, 2013, 07:07:37 PM
Thanks, Michael!

By the way, I wonder if this one is inspired by Vizner's "screw" vase  :)

Paul
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on November 23, 2013, 08:56:39 PM
That's a great piece, Paul.

The 7414, by the way, is a vase by Ivo Burian (It's a cylindircal vase with two wavy stripes and 2 dots).  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Paul C on November 24, 2013, 04:04:45 PM
Thanks Anik!
I love some of these Skrdlovice glass art.

Paul
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 15, 2013, 03:28:58 PM
Haven't posted new Skrdlovice purchases for a while, nothing really great but still some nice pieces:

- small green Emanuel Beranek vase, I guess the re-edition (PN 8639/10) of his 1950s design
- nice colours in this Vizner "Whirlpool" candle holder
- a square section Svobodova "Galaxy" vase. I wasn't aware that the glass pellets were blue on one side, green on the opposite side, and mixed on the inbetween sides.
- and just because I like odd colourways: Petr Hora vase with "spattered paint" decor in orange instead of the usual pink :)

More to come...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 18, 2013, 08:40:59 PM
Lovely additions, Michael! 
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 19, 2013, 08:38:31 AM
Thank you Anik! :D

Here is what could have been my personal highlight of the year, found last weekend...
Imagine my disappointment when I turned it around and saw an ugly damage to one side.

A wonderful vase designed by Maria Stahlikova in 1959, PN 5934, 30 cm tall with big airbubbles swirling from the base towards the top. And quite an unusual colour, too (teal-blue).

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 24, 2013, 07:08:41 AM
Oooooooooo Michael, that's a fantastic vase!  I've never seen one before -- shame about the damage, but I still think it was a very lucky find. 
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 25, 2013, 09:37:50 AM
Some goodness has come my way too... two presents to myself for Christmas.

A red Vizner 6832 vase which now completes my perfect set of 3, and a Jan Exnar 8839 'arrowhead' vase which I think is irresistibly silly (though I know not to everyone's taste).

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 25, 2013, 10:32:42 AM
Oh wow Anik, what a set!
Great colour combination :)

And the Exnar is very nice and chunky; only other one I ever saw was in a Sypka auction catalogue...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 25, 2013, 01:24:30 PM
Wonderful, Anik. That set looks so utterly fabulous all together, I can even forgive the pink for being pink.

What a strange and funky thing the arrowhead vase is!

I'm afraid it conjures up images of damaged noses to me, from somebody trying to drink out of it... :-[
Delighted to see you've managed to treat yourself a little.  ;D
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: flying free on December 26, 2013, 12:16:06 PM
Anik I love that set - superb designs and they look very classy together.
m
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 26, 2013, 02:49:56 PM
Thank you Michael, Sue and m.  :)

P.S.  Sue, you gave me a good laugh... who the heck would try drinking out of a vase? Especially a vase with a huge pointy thing sat on the top of it? 
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 26, 2013, 06:07:37 PM
Possibly the same sort of person who throws the acacia honey roast parsnips into the burnt-crumb-full hinge of the oven door?

 :-[ ::) :-[

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on December 27, 2013, 07:11:36 AM
I haven't looked in here for a while, and when I do, I'm riven with envy. I love your Exnar piece, Anik, and, Michael, that's a fabulous find.  I don't think I've seen the piece before. There are some undiscovered gems out there, after all.


David


Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 27, 2013, 12:03:38 PM
David, lovely to hear from you.
And don't worry -- I am always going green with envy when I browse through your Skrdlovice gallery ;)

The Stahlikova seems rather scarce (I hadn't seen it before either, apart from the Pardubice exhibition pics).

Here is another piece not commonly seen I think, and quite fabulous too IMHO:
Jaroslav Svoboda, PN 7301/21
Highly sculptural, and totally useless as a vase (with just a small well at the top) -- maybe that is why it wasn't as successful as his other "drip-decoration" range from the same year...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on December 31, 2013, 11:54:04 PM
Michael,

Congratulations! Another wonderful piece I've never seen before.

I have managed to find some pieces to enrich my Christmas: three Vizners, whose work I'm focusing on right now, and a Rudolf Beranek, which is very Murano-like.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on January 01, 2014, 08:51:38 AM
David, wish you a wonderful new year 2014!
Seems to start off nicely with these 4 great pieces.
I love the all blue Vizner vase with the spiky top. The Rudolf Beranek is beautiful, not a piece I would have looked out for, but what an attractive colourway...

I wouldn't mind focusing on Mr. Vizner's work, but I don't find much locally, and usually get outbid online, so I have to focus on other Skrdlovice oddities and rarities ;D

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on January 01, 2014, 05:45:31 PM
Michael and David, really wonderful additions to your collections. 
WOW!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on February 09, 2014, 03:29:34 PM
4 more :D

- Jelinek heart shaped vase, PN 6525, a bit odd proportions (18 cm high), still I am extremely happy
- Vizner egg vase in yellow, 16.5 cm high and massive. PN 6832. At last...
- Veliskova "Kangaroo" vase, PN 5555, 27 cm high, in one of my favourite 1950s colourways
- small Palecek vase, from a range called "Colibri", PN 6522, 9 cm high. The first I have seen outside the pattern books.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on February 09, 2014, 06:31:51 PM
Michael,

Great additions, each very special in its own way.  I've long lusted for the Jelinek vase without ever being able to get one.  At least I can look at photos of yours now.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on February 10, 2014, 12:45:30 AM
Great pieces Michael. Does the Jelinek weigh the same as the normal pattern examples 2.8-3 KG?
The Veliskova vase is still underrated in my opinion, the design feels and looks great when it is in front of you. This one in pink displays really well with other pieces in the same colourway.

Robert
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on February 10, 2014, 12:27:20 PM
Thanks David and Robert!
The Jelinek vase is very heavy, I would think around 3 kg (it's exceeding the 2 kg my kitchen scale can display).
And it was not a bargain ;)

I love the Veliskova vase, too, unfortunately it doesn't photograph as nicely as it looks in reality...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on February 11, 2014, 05:21:38 AM
Great additions to your collection, Michael!  All of them are wonderful, but I'm most taken with the Jelinek and its odd shape and beautiful colour, and (of course) the super-fabulous Vizner egg! 



Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on February 22, 2014, 12:13:19 PM
Found today: another Maresova Smolkova "big lips" vase, PN 5514. See >> here (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,47490.msg299959.html#msg299959) for my first one.

Highly unusual all-Uranium colourway (never saw this before in any Skrdlovice piece), and the pattern is mirrored.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on February 22, 2014, 06:03:37 PM
Oh Michael, you've been finding some of the most original Skrdlovice pieces!  Wonderful vase, and so odd that it's uni-colour (and completely uranium).   Thank you so much for sharing.

P.S.  I completely forgot that you already had a 'big lipped' vase!  What a lucky guy!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on March 04, 2014, 05:07:40 PM
Thank you, Anik! :D

Here is another very special piece, a beautiful vase designed by Jirina Zertova in 1968, PN 6817, 25 cm high.
Pieces from this range seem really hard to find, so I was thrilled when I spotted it at a Berlin fleamarket...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on March 04, 2014, 10:11:25 PM
Great piece Rocco!

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on March 05, 2014, 02:50:32 PM
Thank you, Robert!
Yes, isn't it :)

Surely one of my top five Skrdlovice pieces...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on March 07, 2014, 08:43:46 AM
Michael, 

Great find. It would be one of my top five, too.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on March 11, 2014, 06:10:01 PM
Oh Michael, you have a knack for finding some of the most desirable pieces...  what a super addition to your Skrdlovice collection!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on April 01, 2014, 03:40:08 PM
Hi,

I haven't posted much recently, as I'm finding Skrdlovice a little difficult to locate right now. I'm excited at the prospect to Robert and Jindrich's book coming out in April so perhaps that will stir the pot a little, as well as give us collectors something to pore over and ooh and aah for a while.

However, I did acquire these three pieces recently. The Oliva clear piece is not uncommon and I'm not wild about it. However, I haven't seen the Vizner opalescent piece before. It's from early on in his career at Skrdlovice, and looks a little Murano-like to me. The really unusual piece, I think, is the pulegoso with the metal base. Very Art Deco and early Skrdlovice. The mark on the base is "Hand Made Czechoslovakia" so I'm presuming it's 1945 but after the German surrender.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on April 01, 2014, 03:56:24 PM
Three beautiful pieces, David!

I love the opalescent Vizner vase, great shape and even greater colours...
The Oliva piece is very nice, too, but I can see why it isn't the favourite of these three (at least for someone like me who likes his glass colourful ;) )
The only other of those early pulegoso pieces with a metal base I ever saw was in a Sypka auction catalogue, they must be really scarce.

Yes, it is getting harder and harder to find Skrdlovice designs which haven't been in this thread (which means in one of our collections).

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: flying free on April 01, 2014, 05:23:26 PM

As always, a pleasure to look at this thread.  I don't 'see' these pieces over here - my eye isn't tuned to them at all so it's wonderful to be able to scroll through and see such fabulous collections.
I did have a Jelinek vase but it went to a friend this Christmas :) - she loved it as well.
After all this time (and there are many vase on this thread I love), I think I would like to own a pulegoso piece.  I shall now keep my eyes peeled  ;D
m
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on April 02, 2014, 12:34:08 PM
Wonderful items, David, and like Michael, I'm most taken with the Vizner (love the color and shape).
The pulegoso piece is an exceptional find.

Like m, I haven't got an early Skrdlovice bubbly piece either but I'm hopeful that one will find it's way into my collection eventually.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on April 04, 2014, 08:11:31 PM
Hi everyone, I have been quite busy. But I am pleased to announce the Skrdlovice exhibition and forthcoming book. I know the book is quite expensive but it is a lavish volume with lots of unique photographs. It will really be the first book to be published on the subject. There is also mention of GMB (and this thread hopefully) too, in the resources section. Thanks for mentioning it in the recent post David. Hopefully it will be a good read for those who can get hold of a copy! I have tried to keep back some pieces of research that Jindra and I have done, to make the book as interesting as possible for most collectors! I will post the date at the end of April where it can be bought. Preorder interest can be logged with the books enquiry email at www.markhill.net

The exhibition is quite short and I will see if I can get a photo of some of it to post here some time after the show. Please attend if you can, there are many pieces that I guarantee have not been on display in the UK before. It has been really interesting for me to see all the glass from the factory collected here from all parts of the world. Everyone has at least one piece I want, in some cases more!



Robert (bOBA)


(The last image is from my collection, the others are publicity images for the book and exhibition Images © Mark Hill Publishing Ltd www.markhill.net).


Exhibition at Antiques For Everyone, at the NEC, Birmingham, England.
 
April 10th-13th www.antiquesforeveryone.co.uk

Glass from the private collections of Robert Bevan Jones and Jindrich Parik.

Skrdlovice & Beránek: Legends of Czech Glass
A New Exhibition & Book Skrdlovice is one of the 20th century’s greatest forgotten glass companies. For decades, the
company (pronounced ‘skerd-luv-itz’ah’), was hidden from the world behind the Iron Curtain, and the major contributio
n it made to 20thC glass design is only now being uncovered and reappraised by design historians and collectors. Founded in 1942, in the midst of the Second World War, by the enterprising and talented glassmaster Emanuel Berànek, the company’s earliest designs were produced using waste broken glass, peat to fire the furnaces -and a huge amount of raw talent and sheer determination. Against all odds, the company survived and flourished under Communist rule in the 1950s & 60s, exporting its vast and diverse range of colourful, curving glass across the world as far as Canada, Europe and Australia. From the 1950s until its demise in 2008, nearly every one of Czechoslovakia’s best and more influential glass designers worked with them including now globally revered names such as Frantisek Vizner. Designs were varied and absorbed influences from now well-known mid-century modernglass produced in Scandinavia and on the Italian island of Murano. Like the glass produced in Britain at the time by companies such as Whitefriars, Czech designers didn’t merely copy but added a strong Czech twist to develop their own highly recognizable look. Further experimentation from the 1950s onwards used a rainbow of colours and a breath-
taking array of ever more complex techniques to create truly world class designs. The arguable golden age of the company was the 1970s, and many designs produced by its successor, Beranek Glass SRO(active1993-2008) were designed then.This groundbreaking exhibition will comprise over 100 examples, including unique pieces, that will be displayed together in Britain for the first time ever. Typically mis-attributed to factories on Murano and Scandinavia, this unique and exclusive exhibition and the accompanying book published by BBC Antiques Roadshow specialist Mark Hill will uncover the truth behind this captivating and fascinating glass, and reveal the amazing story and key names behind it.

Exhibition at Antiques For Everyone,
April 10th-13th www.antiquesforeveryone.co.uk
Glass from the private collections of Robert Bevan Jones and Jindrich Parik.

A hardback book, limited to 1,000 numbered copies, will bepublished by Mark Hill Publishing Ltd in late April. Skrdlovice & Beranek: Legends of Czech Glass
By Robert Bevan-Jones & Jindrich Parik
General Editor: Mark Hill

‘Coffee table’ style hardback

284mm x 225mm portrait

160 pages
• Full contextual history of the factory, with information on hundreds of designs and
designers, from 1941-2008.
• Over 250 specially commissioned, full colour illustrations, including reproductions of the factory’s unique pattern book archive, original design drawings and hitherto unseen photographs from inside the factory.

Special feature boxes including ‘Designer Profile’ and ‘Hallmark Design’.

Produced entirely in Great Britain

ISBN: 9780955286599

Price: £45
plus postage & packing

Images © Mark Hill Publishing Ltd
www.markhill.net
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: dirk. on April 06, 2014, 03:40:47 PM
My congrats, Robert for finishing such an immense work. I know this has occupied you for quite some
time now.
I´m much looking forward to seeing the result of your collective work and - to the same amount - pity
I won´t be able to see the exhibition.
Bet there will be lots of visitors.
(Y)  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on April 06, 2014, 07:37:06 PM
Oooooooooooo I'm so excited about your upcoming book!  I love Skrdlovice glass and can't wait to read more about the glassworks, designs and designers.  I'm sure with all those years of careful research, the book is a must-have for any serious Skrdlovice collector.  Super news!

Shame I won't be able to come to Birmingham for the exhibition, but I'll be there in my thoughts. I can't see the exhibition or the publication being anything but a great success.  (And very well-deserved!)

Anik
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on April 06, 2014, 08:20:09 PM
Thank you Anik, it has been quite a long time now that we have all been discussing this fascinating factory. I really hope collectors will like the display and book. There are many photographs of pieces that have not been seen in print before. There are lots of unusual photos of scarce pieces as well as classics, taken by Graham Rae, whose work is already familiar to many collectors of Czech glass.  There will be lots of research and new information about the history of the factory that will be news to most people. It is a relief to finally see a volume on this great factory becoming available, it is about time! Jindra has been really very busy as most people will know, with his career in technology, but behind the scenes, he has been helping as much as he can. His website has been a bit quiet as a result but his enthusiasm for glass is undimmed and he certainly sees windows of time in the not distant future where he will be able to return to doing a lot more online producing more of his articles on glass and other glass related activities of all kinds. Thanks for the encouraging words!


Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on April 07, 2014, 06:25:24 AM
This is really great news. - Thanks for all your hard work, Robert and Jindrich!
Looking forward to learning much more about my favourite glass maker. (And I am afraid there will be quite a few pieces in it which will make me turn green with envy...)

I am sure the book will not leave my coffee table any more :)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on April 15, 2014, 11:57:42 AM
Just a few photos from the Skrdlovice exhibition of 2014 that is now finished. Mark Hill and Clarion events, who organised and planned the entire Antiques for Everyone show at the NEC, provided the opportunity to showcase the glass. The glass was well lit and spaciously displayed. Here are a few photos showing some of what was there. More information on Skrdlovice will be available at the National Glass Fair in Solihull, where the book Skrdlovice and Beranek, will be officially launched. (See events page for more details).

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on April 15, 2014, 05:51:49 PM
Thank you for posting some photos from the exhibition, Robert... much appreciated by a person like me who couldn't come to the show.

Great pictures and a very attractive showcase of Skrdlovice and Beranek glass.
Can't wait for the book!

Anik
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on April 15, 2014, 06:13:08 PM
Really exciting stuff.  8)
I will be buying a copy of the book. :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on April 16, 2014, 03:16:32 AM
Thanks for the photos, Robert.  Great selection of pieces, which show the wide range of styles produced by Skrdlovice.

Waiting for the book reminds me of how I used to be as a child waiting for Christmas. At least I'm my own Santa Claus now.

Congratulations and many thanks, Robert.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on April 24, 2014, 06:18:09 PM
Oh, I would have loved to see the exhibition, thanks for the pics Robert!

Here is a Skrdlovice design which probably wasn't included:
beautiful Vladimir Jelinek bowl, PN 6061, diameter 31 cm.

If I understand it properly, the pattern book says that only 100 pieces were made, so sort of a my first "limited edition" Skrdlovice piece :D

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on April 26, 2014, 04:29:46 PM
Michael, just when I think you can't out-do yourself... you find another ABSOLUTELY WONDEFUL piece!

I'm oozing with jealousy -- but then again, I wouldn't have anywhere to display it. 
A super, super, super find   :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 28, 2014, 06:54:30 AM
Some new additions to my Skrdlovice collection: 

A tall topaz egg-shaped vase by Jirina Zertova, pattern number 6905 -- a great design. 

And 2 'mystery' pieces which aren't in the pattern books, but seem to be a version of Jezek's 7605 (to the far right in the last photo).  Interestingly, both mystery pieces had unfinished bases (which have since been ground and polished).
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: glassobsessed on May 28, 2014, 05:37:19 PM
Very nice, I particularly like your mystery bits.

John
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 28, 2014, 06:29:08 PM
Thank you, John!  They are interesting items.  It's a shame, though, that glass can't talk.  It would be lovely to know why they were made and if any more exist. 
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 29, 2014, 11:09:32 AM
Lovely, Anik!

I saw those Jezek-style pieces, too, when they were offered, and was very tempted to bid on them ;)
Maybe they were made at one of those "hot glass" symposiums held at Skrdlovice in the 1970s?
And the Zertova vase is very impressive. Interesting that this technique was used not only by Svobodova, but by Vizner and Zertova as well...

Some nice things to show, too, though nothing really new like Anik's additions:

- Vizner "egg" vase in red cased in very light blue, quite big at 18 cm height and 11.5 cm diameter
- Svobodova vase, great colours, height 26.5 cm, PN 6645
- lovely Stahlikova (I think) mid 1950s vase, height 22 cm, PN 5568

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 29, 2014, 12:25:15 PM
Wonderful pieces, Micahel!  I love the 'egg' -- it's my absolute favourite Vizner design.  And it's bigger and wider than the ones I've got. 

The amethyst Svobodova is lovely... a nice, heavy piece in a great colorway. The last piece is the 5568 Stahlikova. There's one like it in the new "Beranek & Skrdlovice" book.  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 29, 2014, 03:19:37 PM
Thanks for confirming the Stahlikova vase, Anik! -- I will have to wait a few weeks more for the book, as I will receive it as a birthday present :)
And those Jezek pieces are simply great -- how wonderful to have Skrdlovice one-offs in your collection!

MIchael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on May 31, 2014, 01:14:23 PM
Really great to see such varied pieces. The Jezek pieces really look like they may be rejected pattern submissions, I cannot really understand their existence any other way, as they match exactly the contemporary colourways of his accepted pieces, as Anik's photo shows. The Stahlikova is a great piece and these kinds of patterns are much under appreciated I think. The factory was making beautiful quality glass at this time and the glass always feels so nice to handle from this era too, if that makes sense. This particular pattern reminds me of the experimental designs she made at Harrachov and we can really see Skrdlovice had a role there, in this way, as shapes of Harrachov patterns such as the Albertross and some Harrtil, resemble these Skrdlovice patterns, which came first, before her and Veliskova shared some ideas there. If we read CGR carefully, there are places where their role is described as experimental design advice more than putting their actual name to designs. This puts more emphasis on why Skrdlovice is described as an experimental patterning facility at this time. This makes designs of hers, like this, more important, for me, as a general collector of Czech glass.


The Vizner egg vase is a classic design. The tallest one is extremely rare, but any of them are special really, as the design is impressive. I think nearly every Czech glass collector admires these....

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on May 31, 2014, 03:30:51 PM
Thank you for your comment, Robert!
I agree that several of those 1950s pieces by Stahlikova, Veliskova or Emanuel Beranek are great designs, and I am sure they will get the estimation they deserve one day.
(And some of them are quite hard to find)

Just a short question regarding my lovely Jelinek PN 6061 bowl I showed on the previous page.
Was it really made in a limited run of hundred pieces as the text in the pattern book suggests?

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on May 31, 2014, 06:52:47 PM
Hi Michael,
the runs, numbering, are never reliable and can be complex. They can change depending on the decade. For the fifties, when translating, often they "are up to" not exactly the number. In the sixties, maybe a 100 were made, as in this instance. I would think more is extremely unlikely, less is more likely, 100 is possible. Only for glassexport orders were numbers exact. Sometimes, the numbers could be exceeded, if something was really popular,the pattern books would not record this. In the book, I mention specific instances where I was lucky enough to be able to ask Jaroslav Svoboda, "when the number says this, how many were actually made?" He kindly replied regarding specific patterns, this is in the book, where he commented specifically. His answers characterise the situation at the factory during the dace he discusses. Your Jelinek piece, I would guess a 100 were made max. A good option would be to email him using googletranslates. He seems to me, a very kind guy and if he remembers this piece and has the time, would happily email you about it I am sure. Anyway Michael, this is not your rarest piece. You have one piece in this thread, that is labelled unikat in the pattern books.....


yours

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 31, 2014, 07:29:58 PM
Ooooo now things start to get exciting. "Rejected pattern submissions" for my Jezeks (which I'm really pleased to hear... makes them extra special) and a mysterious unikat piece for Michael.  ;D

I started going back into the thread, trying to pinpoint which piece it could be.  Then it dawned on me that it would be much simpler to look into Michael's album  here. (https://picasaweb.google.com/107330317087089352634/CzechSkrdlovice?noredirect=1https://picasaweb.google.com/107330317087089352634/CzechSkrdlovice?noredirect=1)

I've narrowed it down to 4, but will keep my lip zipped for the time being.  I need to look into the pattern books.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 01, 2014, 06:25:21 AM
Now this is exciting :o
I cannot think of a piece in my collection being a Unikat piece - but I would love to be proved wrong ;D

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on June 01, 2014, 10:11:09 AM
Michael, you do have a unikat piece!  I checked and there is a big "U" in the right hand column of the pattern books.  How did we miss that?
 
And to think some idiot scratched his own name into the base...  :o
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 01, 2014, 10:46:01 AM
Thank you very much, Anik!

Well, I have to admit that the Svoboda plate wasn't on my shortlist ;D
I had thought these were scarce, but production pieces.

So probably the engraved name is the one of the original buyer? 1974 would fit perfectly...
I guess it was an expensive purchase in its days.

And what does the "U" exactly mean? I guess not that only one was made (there is another one -- in colourless glass -- in the 1974 Glassexport catalogue)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on June 01, 2014, 12:50:14 PM
Hi Michal, unikat is slightly variable, but can mean five or less, almost always less than 10, but this can be changed afterwards. I think that the Art Czechoslvoakia pieces in the Svoboda era catalogues are approximately fifty or so. For specific patterns it is still possble to ask Mr Svoboda in his factory, he does remember a lot. I would presume, that for most Skrdlovice, unikat means less than 10. Unikat is the rarest designation and should really be appreciated for great rarity. I would guess less than 10 for this Svoboda plate.


Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 01, 2014, 04:07:07 PM
Thank you Robert, I am overwhelmed by the info you kindly gave.
And I had thought that the appr. 100 piece run would make the Jelinek bowl by far my rarest Skrdlovice piece...

I have looked through the pattern books so many times, but that particular "U" has totally escaped my attention.
Always thought that I would never find a real unikat piece for my collection -- and it's already there ;D

Michael 
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on June 02, 2014, 07:42:03 PM
Wow, great news, Michael!  But I am a little upset that we missed the 'U' in the pattern books... not that it makes the piece any more attractive than it already is, but because an enthusiast (like myself) didn't notice earlier.

By the way, I hope you haven't been using the piece to cut cake on... :/
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 07, 2014, 12:53:01 PM
No fear, Anik -- it would be impossible to cut anything on it ;D

The plate was always treated as something very special -- it is the only piece of my collection which is displayed on its own, on my 1960s Mario Bellini "Amanta" white plastic coffee table.
And looks gorgeous there...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on June 24, 2014, 07:19:56 PM
My newest 'baby'... A Vizner 7213 -- and so much lovelier in real life than I was expecting.  It's 14cm tall, 10cm wide and 2189g. 

I'm a happy collector.  ;D
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on June 25, 2014, 07:12:37 AM
Fabulous piece, Anik! And I like the fact that it is all green (I am, too ;D)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on June 25, 2014, 10:02:25 PM
Very 1970's Anik, it looks like a really great example of the period, the colourway would seem too dark for the 1980's wouldn't it, but suits the seventies perfectly.


Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on June 26, 2014, 07:42:41 PM
Thank you for the kind replies Michael ad Robert.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on July 12, 2014, 01:46:34 PM
Another Vladimir Jelinek heart vase :D, quite big at a height of 19.5 cm and width of 21.5 cm.
Clear glass with purplish-black blobs...

Thanks,
Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on July 26, 2014, 01:34:56 PM
Michael, you must have been quite pleased with your find. :)   Do you display your heart vases together?

My collection has grown a little too.  I've got a Vizner 6943 which is so much more attactive than my photo shows -- it sparkles like a diamond.  I've also got a Vizner 'pineapple' (pattern 7117) in topaz and clear, and a beautiful amethyst propeller vase (Jan Kotik, pattern 5503) which my parents found for me in Canada.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on July 26, 2014, 06:56:56 PM
Very nice, Anik!
I love the colours in your propeller vase -- what a well chosen present from your parents :)

Vizner's pineapple vases are always great, and the 6943 looks interesting (though I do like a little more colour).

My Jelinek heart vases sit next to each other (among 20 other favourite glass pieces), so I wouldn't call it "display" ;D

Michael

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on August 15, 2014, 01:44:25 PM
This must be one of the most unusual pieces of 1950s Skrdlovice.
Not the shape, which I think is a Zemek design, PN 5530 (a little slimmer than my other one). It stands 13 cm tall.

But it has an intriguing semi-opaque, slightly lustrous finish. It looks almost like there was a layer of opalescent glass around it, but I guess it is just a thick coating of something like silverchloride (one of our lovely glass-chemistry knowledgeable co-members can explain it, I am sure).

The only other pieces with this finish I ever saw are these two beautiful signed Emanuel Beranek vases auctioned in 2008 (>> Link 1 (http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5747130), >> Link 2 (http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5747129)).

It has the bigger silver/yellow label I have on two other late 1950s pieces.

Maybe Robert can add some more info :)

Thanks,
MIchael

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on August 20, 2014, 02:19:49 PM
Fascinating, Michael... It looks like there is smoke trapped within the glass.  Not a common effect for Skrdlovice, is it?

Wonderful piece.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on August 22, 2014, 01:26:08 PM
Thanks, Anik.
Quite original, isn't it ;)

The reflexions inside the glass are really nice...
I wasn't able to capture the pastel iridescence in my pics, unfortunately.

MIchael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on August 24, 2014, 10:08:52 AM
Very unusual, MIchael. I've got a similar piece that looks like Bohuslav Beranek to me, certainly Skrdlovice. I've not tracked down the pattern number yet, although it could well be PN 54188.  It is clearly an attempt to create opalescent glass, but it looks different from other opalescent I have. My piece looks a little more yellow and less orange than yours.  I wonder where the attribution for the Fischer came from.

David

PS I see that Vienna is now ranked the number one liveable city in the world. It must be all the Skrdlovice you've found there. But on that basis how did Vancouver make #3?

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on August 24, 2014, 10:19:12 AM
Just to show I've not been entirely idle, here's a vase suggested to me by Robert. Turned out to Vizner, PN 7201/35. In the pattern  book the  35 is scratched out and 30 is substituted. My one is 35 cm tall.


David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on August 24, 2014, 02:37:01 PM
PS I see that Vienna is now ranked the number one liveable city in the world. It must be all the Skrdlovice you've found there. But on that basis how did Vancouver make #3?

Vienna always wins that constest, but I wonder why -- Viennese love to complain about everything ;D
And not so much Skrdlovice to be found at the moment (just a Petr Hora set which was so cheap that it had to come with me), so that cannot be the reason either.
I found some nice Murano pieces, though. Have you seen those giant AVeM roosters I posted in the Murano section?

The decor of your Bohuslav Beranek vase seems similar to mine. Does it have the iridescence as well?
I agree that it looks like opalescent glass, but I think it isn't. I am totally clueless how the effect is achieved, I think it is a coating of some sort, but not a mere iridescent one like e.g. in carnival glass...
The ones in the Fischer auction seem to signed to the base; which may mean they were made for an exhibition perhaps? -- Robert may know ;)

Fabulous Vizner vase!

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on August 25, 2014, 06:10:54 AM
Not a commonly found Vizner, David -- great addition to your collection.  I can imagine it's a fantastically heavy piece!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on August 26, 2014, 10:41:22 AM
Hi, I have no idea about the opalescent glass pieces, they could be small scale experiments with unpredictable coloured rods, I know some glassmakers have had coloured glass react under heat in unexpected ways, creating new effects, that are hard to reproduce as they emerged from colour accidents under high temperatures. But really, I do not know much about this opalescent series for certain. I was surprised by the Emanuel Beranek attribution by Fischer too.


Robert (boBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on August 26, 2014, 11:35:52 PM
Nice Hora set, Michael.

I've looked closely at my opalescent piece.  It does have slightly petrol-like sheen when the light hits at a certain angle, so, yes, hints of of iridescence. The opalescence varies throughout the piece, most likely because of the wide range of thicknesses in the glass. Some places where the glass is thick, the glass looks almost white.  That would argue against the coating idea as the effect is present throughout the glass.  This probably came out around the same time as Fratelli Toso's "Starry Nights" pattern, which was fantastically successful, so that would give a reason for the experimentation.

I checked a few definitions of opalescent and that didn't help much. The term was used to describe different processes in different factories. One was where iridescent and opalescent were synonymous. Another method entailed cooling a piece quickly with compressed air, then re-heating. And finally the effect could be achieved by adding bone ash and arsenic. I would guess Skrdlovice used the third method, but wouldn't want to for very long.   Interesting couple of pieces.

Yes, my Vizner piece is very heavy.

David


PS Michael, Vancouver fell from top city about three years ago, much to the anguish of the citizens.  I could never understand why it was so highly ranked, especially when one considers that the ratio of average income to average house price makes it one of the most expensive cities in the world in which to live.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on August 27, 2014, 07:06:00 AM
Thank you very much, Robert, David!

The attribution in the Fischer auctions comes from the fact that both seem to have a diamond etched "EM. BERANEK" signature.
Quite unusual, but not something I would expect to have been added deceitfully...

When I purchased my vase (online) I was convinced that it is opalescent glass (and the same with the Fischer pieces).
But I think I do see some very light scratches in what I believe is the coating.
And when I hold the vase against the light looking from the base towards the rim, there is no hint of colour or opalescence, just plain colourless glass.

What the effect reminds me of most is this Mdina bowl >> Link (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,45315.msg273898.html#msg273898)
It has a big streak of silverchlorides that escaped to the surface; looks like the same milky white, slightly iridescent colour -- and held against the light you see that it turns to a transparent amber.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on August 29, 2014, 06:14:25 PM
Michael,

My Bohuslav has a fairly worn base, but there's no indication that a surface application has been worn away. I also have a couple of Stahlikova pieces from around 1958 with a white layer cased in a light blue.  I'd call the effect opalescent, although I imagine it's a question of how you define opalescent. One possibility is that it's a process that Skrdlovice experimented with in a limited number of pieces over a couple of years.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 04, 2014, 03:40:00 PM
Though I wouldn't call the white layered Stahlikova pieces opalescent (nor my pink Zertova vase), this little vase definately looks opalescent -- even if the effect was possibly achieved in a different way than in "standard" opalescent glass.

Two pieces added to my collection, one good, one great, both Oliva :D

- PN 8307, 24 cm, topaz
- PN 7314, 31 cm, simply one of the best Skrdlovice pieces ever made...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on September 04, 2014, 06:02:09 PM
The Oliva 7314 certainly looks beautiful in photos -- I'd love to see and feel one in real life.  That's a wonderful addition to your collection, Michael!  (But perhaps I would argue as to what is the best piece ever made by Skrdlovice. :) )
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on September 26, 2014, 01:57:26 PM
Another lovely Vizner piece for my collection:
"whirlpool" ball vase, blue and azur, PN 7048/14, a little over 13 cm tall, 3 kg.

Michael

P.S. @Anik: Yes, very tough to say what is the best Skrdlovice piece; but the Oliva ranks very high on my list ;)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on October 02, 2014, 07:06:26 PM
Lovely find, Michael...  I started off very much disliking 'azur'.  Then I decided I rather like it. Now I've gone back into the phase of not liking it.  :-\       But this is a great design, and a great shape -- it's more of an object than a vase. 

P.S.  For me, one of the best Skrdlovice pieces is still the Vizner 'egg'.  My three, along with my Svoboda lamp base and my silly Exnar animals are at the very top of my oogle, fondle and admire list.  :P    Then again, there are so many pieces I still haven't had the chance to see and touch...
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 05, 2014, 05:06:31 PM
Thank you, Anik!
I like "Azur" ;)
But I like colourful glass, my least favourite are all-colourless pieces (speaking of Skrdlovice).

So I was extremely happy when I found this lovely Vizner piece today at a carboot (at 3,- Euro a real bargain).
10 cm wide, 13 cm high, azur and green. Not sure about the pattern number...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on October 08, 2014, 04:09:37 AM
OK, I think I've changed my mind again...  I like azur, especially when combined with green. 
SUPER PIECE!
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 08, 2014, 06:12:14 AM
Thanks Anik! :)
I think one of my best Vizner pieces to date...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: vetraio50 on October 24, 2014, 10:54:54 PM
PALEČEK, Ladislav

7633/34 Mísa
34,18,7

I finally got round to taking some pix of this bowl I found at a market here in Sydney Australia a year ago!

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on October 25, 2014, 10:07:17 AM
I like Palecek's designs... they're artistic and highly attractive, and in most cases, perfectly utalitarian. 
Thank you for sharing, vetraio50.   :)


I also got a new Skrdlovice piece, though I'm not 100% sure what it is.  I've looked through the pattern books and decided that it's quite likely a Strobchova design from 1964 (6427?).  It's 9cm tall, 12cm wide and weighs 1267g.  It's a very light smokey amethyst with a purple 'egg'.  It retains its original gold Skrdlovice label.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 26, 2014, 07:30:57 AM
That is a beautiful piece, Anik!
I am jealous ;)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 26, 2014, 04:40:09 PM
Nothing as spectacular here as Anik's vase, but I lusted for one of the swirled Rudolf Beranek bowls for quite a while, so I was extremely happy to find one at the fleamarket a few weeks ago.
43 cm long, and the most colourful example I have seen so far :)
PN 6445, pic of Robert's beautiful (mainly) orange one in the Skrdlovice book...

@Kevin: lovely Palecek bowl! I only have an ashtray from this range...

Thanks,
Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on October 26, 2014, 06:38:30 PM
I really like your platter, Michael, especially with the stronger colors in it.  What a wonderful find!

P.S. Michael, do you think my piece is a Strobachova?
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on October 28, 2014, 07:38:17 PM
Hi Anik,
sorry for the delayed reply.
I did some searching through the pattern books etc., and the most similar thing I found was the Strobachova design you mentioned.
So it seems to be a cigarette box! :)

I really like the shape and the colours...

Michael

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on October 28, 2014, 08:10:08 PM
Thank you Michael.  :)   

P.S. I know the pattern book says it's a cigarette box, but I really can't see it being used as such.  It looks like a bean-shaped vase.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on October 28, 2014, 10:02:33 PM
Great piece Anik,

it looks quite a good match for 6451 It is in CGR 1966/6, I think.

Robert
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on October 29, 2014, 04:39:08 AM
Thank you, Robert!   So still Strobachova and still 1964, but a candleholder.  I'm happy.  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on November 22, 2014, 01:22:15 PM
Unfortunately damaged, but still a stunner (and quite scarce I would think, haven't seen it outside the pattern books so far):

big (25 cm) and heavy bottle vase, designed by Maria Stahlikova / Milena Veliskova in 1961, PN 6128.
I guess I will not get closer to a Blecha piece than this ;)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: langhaugh on November 24, 2014, 08:35:12 AM
A stunning piece Michael, one that I've only seen in the pattern book. Congratulations.

Skrdllovice seems to have dried up for me right now.  However, I have managed to acquire four very different pieces. The swans are Emanuel and I appreciate them for their historical value. The green/blue and blue/red pieces are Vizner, both included in his book, and the chimney vase is a well made Svoboda.

David
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on November 24, 2014, 07:14:28 PM
Thanks for the comment, David!
The vase is my favourite Skrdlovice piece at the moment.
BTW, in the pattern book there is a very faint "100" next to the drawing, so quite a limited run.

And yes, it has become quite hard to find Skrdlovice pieces which add something new to our long long thread...
You managed it perfectly.

All pieces are very good, but I particularly love the blue and red Vizner vase, much more effective colourway than my blue/green one.
And I am always happy to see rare early Emanuel Beranek pieces.
The swans' basic shape was later used by other glassworks -- I have one made at Karlovarske Sklo.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on November 24, 2014, 08:13:35 PM
Nice pieces David. I like your vase too Rocco, I hope the damage is not too severe....... still as you say, a rare thing. I have not seen the swans in the cased pulegoso before, I will find out a swan of mine in plain pulegoso for the thread...... Quite rare Vizners too. I agree that finding interesting Skrdlovice seems harder these days but Vienna (and Canada) still hides a few I am sure. Nice finds gents!

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on November 28, 2014, 05:02:25 AM
Yikes...  now I know I have to invest some time in studying the pattern books again:  Michael, I wouldn't have recognized your piece as Skrdlovice.  :-[    Super find, and I'm very impressed by your skill in being able to identify these uncommon designs. 

David, interesting additions to your collection, but I'm most taken with the green blue Vizner.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on December 08, 2014, 01:17:09 PM
Some 1950s/early 1960s pieces added:
1. I was looking for this one for quite a while: lovely Stahlikova/Veliskova beaked vase, opaque white inner casing, surrounded by a black band. PN 6005, 28.5 cm high.
2. big bowl by Emanuel Beranek, appr. 36 cm wide. PN 59108. Marvelously executed -- massive base, paper thin rim, totally underestimated pieces imho. (unfortunately not easy to photograph).
3. mystery piece: curvaceous bowl, 20 cm wide. It just has to be Skrdlovice. The closest I could find (not a perfect match though) is a design by Marie Stahlikova, PN 5623.
Again in the scarce yellowish opalescent colour, this time with a light rose-brown inner casing. No iridescence.

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 26, 2014, 11:49:34 AM
Once again, lovely additions, Michael.  I'm sure your home is looking more and more like a fabulous museum of glass.  ;)

The last piece is interesting though I can't seem to find it in the Skrdlovice pattern books either. It's got a bit of a Myers-esque quality to it.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on January 02, 2015, 09:34:28 AM
Thank you, Anik; true, the bowl above is a little mysterious, but I cannot think of another maker but Skrdlovice...

Some new purchases:
Always nice to find a piece I haven't seen but a small drawing of before:

- lovely bear-shaped ashtray, designed by Frantisek Zemek, PN 54166, 12 cm high.
Insterestingly it has an engraved mark to the base (the seller hadn't mentioned in his listing, so I was quite surprised when I unpacked the piece): "54166 ZEMEK".
So maybe a pattern room example?

- The trailed vase itself is not that unusual (Jirina Zertova "spider's web" range), but the colours are ;)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on January 02, 2015, 04:51:50 PM
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Michael!!!!!   Absolutely super pieces.  I just LOVE the bear, and the Zertova is a beauty. 

Oh dear, I'm so jealous -- but, of course, in the most sincere and sweetest way.  You really outdid yourself this time.  Your collection is the best.  :-*

Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on January 02, 2015, 08:00:27 PM
Thank you ;)

I was so happy about finding the Zemek piece -- whenever I had looked through the 1954 pattern book I got caught on the drawing of the bear ashtray.
Much easier to remember that pattern than one of the dozens similarish ashtrays with pulled lobes ;D

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on April 03, 2015, 05:22:58 AM
I wanted to show off my Jindrich Beranek paperweight.  It's only 9cm tall but weighs 1089g.  Robert very kindly told me that the colours suggest a date of c.1960.    Normally, I'm not very fond of soft hues, but they look great on this piece.   :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on April 06, 2015, 09:07:17 AM
Very nice, Anik -- this must be one of the earliest paperweight designs then.
I love the soft colours, too :)

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on April 12, 2015, 03:17:47 PM
I'm excited about the newest addition to my Skrdlovice collection...  a wonderful Karel Wunsch 8214 bowl with a folded rim.  What makes the design special is that though it looks like a deep bowl (even when you look in), the inner well is exceptionally shallow -- something you only realise when you reach in.  The optic effect is fabulous.

My bowl is 16.5cm wide, 8cm tall and weighs 2122g.

Oooo and I found it here in Poland.  :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: bOBA on April 13, 2015, 11:27:06 PM
Great piece Anik, these bowls are really impressive in person. I agree about the optical effect. The weight of this one must make the large bowls 5-6 KG or more! I have not seen many of this pattern,

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on April 14, 2015, 06:18:17 PM
Thank you, Robert.  It is really impressive in person -- what a great design.

I'd love to the the large version of this bowl!  I expect it wasn't very cost-effective to produce the large size, so I suppose finding one is near impossible.  Maybe one day....   :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on April 30, 2015, 06:09:32 PM
Not as spectacular as Anik's bowl, but some nice new Skrdlovice pieces have entered my collection ;)

Interesting that the first and the last are from the very beginning resp. the very end of the Beranek glassworks:

- classic pulegoso swan, designed by Emanuel Beranek, PN (possibly) 4611
- inbetween a nice green-cased yellow egg by Vizner
- sculptural paperweight by Vladimir Dostal, PN 61 2004 01/11

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: glassobsessed on May 01, 2015, 09:00:30 AM
These paperweights are a fine design - they look simple but have a great visual impact.

John
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on May 03, 2015, 04:45:20 AM
LOVE the Vizner!  It is my most favourite Vizner design.   :)

And I really like both Vladimir Dostal weights -- the sharp colours give them character.
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: adam20 on October 03, 2016, 06:36:25 PM
I posted this individually before I saw this thread so posting here as well

Petr Hora 8415 I believe, or was told by seller 
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 31, 2016, 02:18:32 PM
I haven't been here in a while, but I'm still collecting. 

Below is a photo of my little 1940s Skrdlovice vase grouping.  Some are cased in clear while others are porous. 
And I've also got a fish which I believe is older Skrdlovice (no proof, except the fact that the Skrdlovice Facebook page uses the same fish but in a different colorway to wish all happy holidays.)   

Anik :)
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Lustrousstone on December 31, 2016, 05:41:40 PM
Nice ones Anik  ;D
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on December 31, 2016, 06:25:18 PM
Oh thank you, Christine x
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: chopin-liszt on December 31, 2016, 08:57:42 PM
Lovely to see you as well as your glass!
What a fabulous fish! The fins and tail are that lovely strange topaz colour you like so much, aren't they?
I was given a similarly large fish, (new, Romanian and quite different to this) it used to sit on top of the toilet cistern and looked great.
Now, we've got a silly cistern with stupid buttons (which accumulate dirt inside) for flushing on the top, instead of a proper handle at the side to pull, and i can't put my fish on top of the loo any more.

If it ever comes to having to use a flipping mobile phone to flush the loo, I'm topping myself.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: rocco on January 02, 2017, 08:01:25 PM
Lovely early Beranek collection, Anik! (I am particularly fond of the blue vase and the fish).
And good to see you back :)

I have a few things to add to our long thread, too, but no time to take decent pics...

Michael
Title: Re: Skrdlovice collectors thread, part II
Post by: Anik R on January 03, 2017, 08:58:32 AM
Thank you, Sue and Michael.  :)