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Title: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on July 22, 2012, 11:14:45 PM
The only thing I can surmise.  Cut and polished rim. Measures 7 1/4" tall and 3 1/2" wide at the base.  Very pretty iridescent effect, purples and orange/gold.  It's definitely red more than pink and the top pic is the best colour comparison.  I've seen this colour in other Kralik pieces I think.
Any thoughts much appreciated.
m  :)
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on July 23, 2012, 09:29:30 PM
this is a close up of the decor and is the best colour match under daylight.  Is there anyway this might be a Loetz piece?  I was questioning Kralik because all the Texas, Empire, Boule Boule  pieces I've looked at had a firepolished rim and polished pontil mark, whereas this has a cut rim. I'll have another search for the shape.
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: keith on July 23, 2012, 11:52:59 PM
Had a look around,nothing so far,maybe when Craig parks up his Harley he'll pop in ;D ;D,great piece ;D
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on July 24, 2012, 08:13:15 PM
Thanks for looking Keith  :) I have found a Rindskopf vase with a similar decor .  However it is huge and different shape and colour but the decor 'appears' very like Loetz Texas in the photograph.  It's in Das Bohemische Glass Band iv. 
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on July 30, 2012, 03:32:23 PM
Found another in green in Gulliver's Victorian Glass page 111.  Not attributed but has the same mould type base etc and a more similar shape than the huge Rindskopf but both have the similar decor as mine.
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: keith on July 30, 2012, 07:33:44 PM
Knew i'd seen something similar somewhere ::)
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on November 05, 2012, 11:28:20 AM
I'm still wondering about this vase and spotted this - these are the spiraloptisch Kralik pattern, but mine has such similarities - could mine be Kralik but a different pattern?  Any thoughts?
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/73578-my-gorgeous-spiraloptisch-kralik-vase?in=442
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: keith on November 06, 2012, 12:48:44 AM
I've a 'swirly' pattern one that I presumed to be Kralik but without a positive id on the pattern,it seems like Kralik did a number that have yet to be given names.IMHO that is,see picture,the one on the right ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: TxSilver on November 06, 2012, 04:10:49 AM
I had a vase very much like this in green. I could never attribute the vase. It felt like Kralik to me, but figured it could be anyone.
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on November 06, 2012, 08:39:32 AM
Thanks both  :) Anita yours looks like a pattern match and I need to dig out my books because I think the shape looks like one I found somewhere else. 
I've looked at Kralik Gloria and that has similar line patterning but it's difficult to tell really as there are no base pictures.  I've also seen Rindskopf vases that have a patterned base and this bark pattern or very similar. 
I'll keep digging.
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: obscurities on November 06, 2012, 06:59:29 PM
Texas is a decor with vertical ribs of glass on the body of the vessel. Gloria by Loetz is Texas with appliques, generally in the form of leaves. Kralik is known to have produced a design shift of Gloria, but I am not aware of a straight Texas look alike.

That said, I have seen these before and am not sure who made them. I have never seen one in a shape which is unique enough that I would venture an attribution. Kralik may be a possibility due to the sheer volume of their output, but I am not really sure enough to say that is the answer....

Wish I could help more.

LInk to Loetz Texas is here: http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/23062-loetz-texas-circa-1900-over-9-tall
Link to Kralik Gloria is here:  http://www.kralik-glass.com/kralikgloriaarray.html
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on November 08, 2012, 10:54:32 AM
Thank you Craig.  I don't think mine is either of those.
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on November 23, 2012, 11:44:58 PM
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/74606-kralik-iridescent-art-glass-vase-uncomm?in=442
different shape, same colour and decor as mine I think, added for reference
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: TxSilver on November 23, 2012, 11:56:32 PM
He calls it brain. I call it tree. I like his better.
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on November 24, 2012, 12:17:42 AM
I like these Anita but there's something a little strange about the shapes of them I find.
I love the finish and the iridescence and the decor, they have nicely polished and bevelled rims, but the shapes are slightly 'odd' or misproportioned to my eye.  Can't quite put my finger on it.  Yours is very similar to the one in Gulliver's Victorian Decorative Glass page 111, save that the bulbous part of the vase is a slightly different shape.  That one is 9.75" tall.
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: TxSilver on November 24, 2012, 12:52:43 AM
The feeling I got with mine is that it was fairly low quality glass. I wouldn't have been surprised to turn it over and see FTD stamped on bottom. :) It felt much like the lower quality Kralik pieces to me. I do like the red better than I did the green. The red looks so much nicer.
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on November 24, 2012, 12:57:05 AM
Nope you've lost me  ;D what is FTD please?
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: TxSilver on November 24, 2012, 01:15:30 AM
FTD is a flower shipping company. There are a lot of their vases out there in the world. They are pretty, but not of exceptional quality.
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on November 24, 2012, 01:24:21 AM
oh yes, with you now  :) thanks
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on January 04, 2013, 01:11:51 PM
http://www.saladocreekantiques.com/catalogue.php?action=viewitem&gid=241

this looks like it could be a similar maker to mine.  Is this pattern Kralik Spiraloptisch? I wasn't sure.  Still trying to identify a maker :)

With regards quality I have to say mine is well made and feels fairly substantial.  It is very much different in quality to, say, a Kralik jester vase I had which really wasn't the best quality at all.  The iridescence on it is lovely as well and I would say is well done. 
m
Title: Kralik?
Post by: adam20 on February 20, 2013, 03:52:47 PM
10 inches high in green iridescent glass. Wondered if its Kralik?

Adam
Title: Re: Kralik?
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 23, 2013, 01:19:13 AM
Nice piece.....I would think yes, IMHO..

Take a look a Craig Site there, and/or wait for those that know much more than me for positive ID.

Nice piece of Glass!!
Title: Re: Kralik?
Post by: flying free on February 23, 2013, 01:57:26 AM
I think your vase is a member of the same club as those in earlier on this merged thread :)

You might ask the mods if they might join yours to that thread if they can?
m

[Mod: Earlier thread moved to "Bohemian etc" and threads merged. Text in this reply also edited to suit the merging.]
Title: Re: Kralik?
Post by: adam20 on February 23, 2013, 10:01:38 AM
Thanks - yes I would say it is the same as the ones in the thread, [ * ] maybe Kralik but Craig can't give a definate attribution. Bohemian and c1900 yes. There is talk of poorer quality, I must say my piece is as good as other pieces of Kralik I have like Martele which seem to be of the same stable, the finish is great and the iredescence beautiful.

Adam P

[ * ] Mod: following merging of threads, please see post #8 by Anita for a vase that appears to be identical to Adam's.
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on September 16, 2013, 08:38:23 AM
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/101370-art-nouveau-kralik-pair-of-purple-green?in=442
these vases appear to have been identified as Kralik on CW?  They look very similar to mine.
Are they definitely Kralik then? because the poster has provided two links to other threads on CW and I can't see anywhere unless I've missed it, that they are definitely id'd as Kralik  :-\
thanks
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: glassobsessed on September 16, 2013, 11:02:22 AM
I have another vase exactly like Adam's, quality is fine, it is nicely finished too.

I think the Kralik attribution is a tad hopeful as things stand.

John
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on September 16, 2013, 12:03:49 PM
yes me too - just checking  :)
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on September 16, 2013, 01:59:18 PM
This one on the link I give below (the poster in CW who called their vase Kralik linked to this post below) is the same colour and patterned decor as my vase but a different shape

The poster here on that linked thread says
'It is by Kralik i do believe and the decor is uncommon..well to me anyway i havent been able to locate any documentation on this particular decor... '   
 http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/74606-kralik-iridescent-art-glass-vase-unco
  ???
has that poster linked their shape to Kralik somehow then? I've not spotted any other Kralik vases in the shapes of these vases on my searches, so just wondering.
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: obscurities on September 16, 2013, 02:43:13 PM
Both of the Kralik attributions on CW are actually based on vapor. The one directly above is based on a "feeling", and the pair are based on the link and some additional bad information.

This decor has never been linked to Kralik for sure, at least that I am aware of. This decor has been discussed for quite some time with no resolution, but lots of guessing and unfounded attributions.

Here is something I have been working on in regards to this surface pattern, which is seen a bit, but not all that common.

Let me say at this point that I am not saying who these are by yet, but I would say that the decor is generally seen on shapes which can not be specifically assigned to any house. There is of course also the possibility that at least a couple of houses did this style of surface texture.

The first image below is of two vases in a pretty distinctive form which I have determined to be Welz production.

The second image below is of a pair of vases in a very unique decor which exhibits the maze style surface decor. More difficult to see with this decor, but there. The shape, ground, and pattern are all fairly unique.

The third image is of a larger example of the decor and pattern on a vase which has never really been identified as to maker, and there are a few others in this distinctive decor and surface. None of these have previously been linked to any house for sure.

The 4th image shows the base of the third image.

To say the least, this would at least seem to indicate that there is the possibility that Welz may have been one of the houses producing this surface decor. The ground in both images 2 and 3 would also seem to possibly fall in line with what appears to be their "Artistic Individuality".

Just some food for thought.... and a possible lead as to the maker, or at least one of the makers.
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on September 16, 2013, 02:51:51 PM
thanks for the info Craig :)
 I found another vase similar to the third one in your post, on CW (Mac's I think), that appears to have a similar colour and the raised maze effect. 
So I can see there is a possible link with Welz.
otoh, I don't think the raised maze decor is the same as my vase. 

Did you know in the Passau book band 4 page 181 there is a green vase that has a more similar raised maze pattern to mine (although I don't think it is the same because there is no base shot and I an't see any swirling lines around the foot of it in the same way I can with mine), and is id'd as Rindkopf?
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on September 16, 2013, 03:00:02 PM


http://www.kralik-glass.com/r-images/hyacinth/rhy4.jpg
I think my vase is the same maker as this hyacinth to be honest - which is Rindskopf
I know the base isn't the same but I think they are the same maker.
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: obscurities on September 16, 2013, 03:18:14 PM
I have to respectfully disagree I think.   ;D

The pattern on that Hyacinth is more like the reference on pg 181 Vol IV of DBG. It is a vertical ribbed pattern with some intersections creating some closed patterns.

These other pieces, yours included, are a random pattern of ridges which appear like a "Brain" surface, or a "Maze".

We also see different levels of definition in the pattern, which may be different houses, or also possibly different ages of the wood molds in their life cycles.

Craig
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on September 16, 2013, 04:00:56 PM
   ;D you are right.
However... the colour and the iridescence and the depth of the pattern is the same as far as I can see, as my vase.  I'm holding out for a newly id'd range of Rindskopf   ;)
btw have you seen the vase on page 224 of band 4.  I think it's the same decor as the one you linked above at number 3 but no maze pattern on it.  It's under 'unknown'.
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: obscurities on September 16, 2013, 04:38:56 PM
That does appear to be the same decor as pics 2 & 3.... sans surface decor.....

Craig
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: obscurities on September 16, 2013, 09:07:15 PM
So although this link will not stay forever, this seller is part of a group that communicates regularly with the two posters in CW that claim Kralik for the decor. This is likely the source of the Kralik attribution which we see in CW. This inaccuracy of this sellers attributions have also been discussed in this forum before.

I know of no verifiable source that would link this oil lamp to Kralik, other than this sellers desire to call it that.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Bohemian-Kralik-Green-Iridescent-Art-Nouveau-Glass-Kerosene-Oil-Lamp-/141061318291?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d7e8e693
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on September 16, 2013, 10:22:24 PM
thanks Craig :)

Very strangely, I came across this  whilst looking for something else
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/2581507
Apparently a Mount Washington fig  (I saw it listed as a muffineer).
It seems to be a similar bark texture and colour as my vase - the shape  matches other pieces id'd as MountWashington but in enamelled decors.
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: obscurities on September 16, 2013, 10:38:02 PM
I think that decor and yours are different. I do think the decor on yours and the one on CW are quite the same.

I am sending you an image of comparisons, which I can not post here as I simply cropped part of the Fig decor for comparison....

Similar in some ways, but I think distinctly different....

Craig
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on September 16, 2013, 11:03:06 PM
yes, thanks for the mail and comparison :)
I suppose it just demonstrates that more than one maker was probably using a type of bark decor.
I agree, I think mine is the same as those on CW - thank you  :)
So the search goes on as to who made them now.
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: obscurities on September 16, 2013, 11:30:56 PM
Also interesting that similar decors were on different sides of the pond....  making me wonder if there may also be a stateside source for some of these pieces.....  Everyone seems to assume they are all Bohemian.   

Craig
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on September 16, 2013, 11:33:46 PM
Yes, I had been silently wondering the same.
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: obscurities on September 16, 2013, 11:35:05 PM
See.... It is true!!!  Great minds DO think alike!!   ;D ;D

Craig
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: glassobsessed on September 17, 2013, 06:34:21 AM
Did much glass travelled east over the Atlantic?

John
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on September 17, 2013, 08:30:44 AM
I don't think so to be honest.  It's interesting though that pieces have turned up in the States and here.  I suppose they could have all been bought from the UK on ebay and made their way over to the States that way.  Otherwise, they seem to have been supplied to both side of the pond which wouldn't be unusual I don't think.
But I have not been able to match the different shapes to any known (so far) Kralik shapes.  I think that's slightly odd.

So possibly an unknown maker so far?  or could they be a 'new' er  maker - i.e. not from that period but later?
Mine is very nicely made, polished and bevelled on the outside rim etc, but comparitively little wear on the base.
 
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on September 24, 2013, 11:12:10 AM
with reference my comment further up on this thread
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,48607.msg307092.html#msg307092 
regarding  the vase in Band IV Das Bohmische Glas page224 having a similar decor (amber with dark red flags/splashes) as the vase Craig showed here
 
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48607.0;attach=139101;image
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,48607.msg307083.html#msg307083

Craig I just came across this post (see link below) on Collectors Weekly, where a vase exactly the  same shape as the vase that is in Band VI page 224 (i.e. the one that appear to have  the same decor and is the same colours as the image I last linked to above)  has been identified as by Steigerwald ??

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/78163-german-jugendstil-steigerwald-schliers

I couldn't see any reference source links on the CW thread for it being Steigerwald though but did find this article (see link below) where that vase is on the page.  Unfortunately the reference about it says it is Schliersee

'SCHLIERSEE
Only two pieces in my collection, both identified from my visit to the Passau Museum.  The vase below appears as "unidentified" in Band IV, but it is similar to vases in the Schliersee case (look at V. page 16 and V. 55):'

https://sites.google.com/site/loetzandglass/bavarian-jugendstil-glass

It seems that reference to it being Schliersee has been changed to it being Steigerwald on the CW posting. I don't have the Band V so I can't see what is meant by '...but it is similar to vases in the Schliersee case' - i.e. how similar?

Does anyone have any Steigerwald primary source references for this decor or shape please?

Oh and these http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/101836-antique-bohemian-welz-iridescent-maze?in=442 the same pair? I think as the image you showed above,  have been id'd as Welz. 

Where does Steigerwald fit into this I'm wondering? Is the one in the book  perhaps a different decor to the one you posted?
It is very hard to tell from the pics even in the book, but it looks incredibly similar to me including the colours used.  The book vase doesn't have a maze pattern on it though as far as I can see.
Many thanks
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: obscurities on September 24, 2013, 02:58:09 PM
M,

I did some additional research the other day, looking at other production examples in quite similar forms and have come to the conclusion that the pair above that I showed are Welz production. The only other pieces I have seen in the same shape are both decors I have identified as Welz. I also have a record of an additional example, which is the same shape and size with a different rim treatment, but the body and neck are identical to the other Welz examples. That example is in a decor of Green & White Honeycomb which is distinctly (at least until now) a Welz decor. Lastly I came across in my photo archives and example with the same body style, but a slightly different neck transition that is also in a distinctly Welz decor.

As a result, I have concluded, since every example of this shape, or extremely similar examples of the shape are, in my opinion Welz decors, that the pair shown above with the sellers image use permission, and the pair posted on CW are Welz examples. I would also note that the decor appears both with and without the Maze surface texture.

The surface texture, which I refer to as Maze, is also a decor I have started combing through my archives to identify examples of. Thus far I have located what I would consider to be 3 similar, but definitely different examples, supporting what I suspect, and that is that the decor was done by several houses in slightly different forms.

I am not aware of any direct link to Steigerwald for the vase in the CW post, and the same Unknown Production example in DBG IV pg 224. I think the link is confused, and the poster is of the opinion that the decor in DBG V examples and the DBG IV example are the same. I would disagree with that observation for the reasons described below.

The examples shown in DBG V pg 16 & v55 are a similar decor but in my opinion not the same. Without showing the images in DBG V here I will at least try to explain the differences I note. 

The DBG V examples appear, and it could be lighting, to be a slightly lighter ground with overall lighter color. I have seen the decor shown in the small pair, which I have now ID'd as Welz, in several forms and it is generally a richer looking glass than the DBG V examples identified as Schliersee. Additionally the colors splotches (primarily the burgundy ones) in the Schliersee decor are seen in both examples as smeared or run color. These burgundy splotches also transition slowly from burgundy to the ground, which appears to be a deep Candia. This appears in both the neck and body of the vessels as a result of the blowing and manipulation of the gather.

In looking at the examples on CW, and other examples of the decor I have images of and have seen, the body of the examples with the burgundy splotches in the decor have a different appearance. They look like torn pieces of color in irregular patterns with much more definitive edges appearing where they merge with the ground color. It is more difficult to see in the small images of the pair, but I believe the same characteristic can be seen in those examples also. I also believe that this decor was likely produced in some slightly varying ground colors.

The difference I have described above is also visible in the example in DBG IV pg 224 identified as Unknown Production. In that example the "torn flags" of color can be seen all the way to the edge of the rim. This is also mildly similar to a very unique decor produced  interwar by Welz in a kind of Yellow/Chartreuse and Burgundy decor. (examples below)

The first two images below show similar "torn flags" (for lack of a better term) of burgundy in the decor. The third image below is of two examples quite similar in shape to the pair I posted and in distinctly Welz decors. I would also note that I have never seen these shapes in any decors other than those I believe to be Welz, and the shape is not very common at all.

So, the decor on the pair, and the decor in DBG IV pg 224, I believe are the same decor and by Welz.  I do not believe them to be the same decor as seen in DBG V pg 16 & V55. I believe that to be a different decor, and would have no reason to disagree with Passau on a Schliersee attribution .

The Maze, or Brain decor is, I believe, a decor to be found in several variants from different houses.

I hope this is clear....
I will email you images of the two cited examples in DBG V for your comparison.

Craig
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on September 24, 2013, 05:36:24 PM
thanks I understood that clearly :)
ok, so.... in conclusion as I understand it, the one id'd on Collectors Weekly as Steigerwald (see link) could possibly be a Welz vase, because it is an identical shape to the one in Band IV which has a decor and colours that appear to match the pair of vases id'd as Welz?
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/78163-german-jugendstil-steigerwald-schliers

no clearer on mine just yet though -
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: obscurities on September 24, 2013, 06:16:34 PM
Yes, and the DBG image is better, showing consistent color through the decor, unlike the image on CW which appears to substantially wash out the lower portion of the vase.

This decor has been discussed for quite some time previously with nothing solid pointing in any specific direction until the small Welz shape pair were found.

And yes.... we are not really any closer on your vase, or any of the others in that style of decor, with the exception that I believe that Welz was one of the houses that produced one of the variants of the "Maze" decor.

The individual that purchased the Welz pair and posted with original sellers images on CW said they will take better images and send them to me for use when the vases arrive.

Craig

Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: flying free on September 24, 2013, 06:23:35 PM
ok, I have the pictures you sent.  I'm leaning towards that they are different (the one in band V is not the same decor as the one in Band IV) although it's very very difficult to tell absolutely from book shots but I can 'see' the differences you 'see'.
I also have to wonder why Passau would have classified the one in Band IV as unknown, and then put the one in Band V as known without referencing the one in Band IV?  Therefore I presume they also see differences between the two in person since they have the vases there? Surely if they were the same decor they would have put them together.
m
Title: Re: Kralik version of Loetz Texas? or something else? Red iridescent textured vase
Post by: obscurities on September 24, 2013, 06:28:47 PM
I agree...  To me they are completely different decors with some striking differences.

The two references in Band V appear the same, although the single ewer style example (pg 16) has enamel work. I did not translate the text to see if they attribute the enamel work to Schliersee also.

Craig