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Glass Discussion & Research. No ID requests here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: shakes on January 22, 2013, 02:00:08 PM

Title: (Whitefriars) sage or willow
Post by: shakes on January 22, 2013, 02:00:08 PM
Hello all,  i was wondering if anyone could take a look at Ebay item no. 251216745231
the item is listed as Rare Green, which if it is Sage then it would command a premium, however i am thinking its Willow with the light behind.
the seller has posted other questions, but not my enquiry.
sorry for being a bit dubious.


 
Title: Re: sage or willow
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 22, 2013, 05:17:26 PM
I would ask for more photos against a white background without that coloured cloth or back lighting
Title: Re: sage or willow
Post by: Nemmie on January 22, 2013, 05:31:02 PM
I would agree with the above as it is impossible to tell which colourway it actually is from the supplied picture.

I think you may be right on it being willow, I can see no reason for lighting a sage vase in that way.





Title: Re: sage or willow
Post by: jimbo1 on January 22, 2013, 05:50:54 PM
It will be Willow, Hooped vases were never produced in Sage. Hooped vases were last produced in 1973, Sage was introduced in 1974 with the new designs for the later textured range.

James
Title: Re: sage or willow
Post by: shakes on January 22, 2013, 08:45:15 PM
thanks for your input, i did realise about the dates, there not much in it and it is listed as rare.
i do think its willow, i have tried a few willow pieces today including a hoop but cannot get them as light...maybe a camera flash...!
thanks again Graham
Title: Re: (Whitefriars) sage or willow
Post by: David E on January 23, 2013, 04:26:53 PM
Photographing in daylight is far better than using a flash. Also, use a white cloth, white paper (back of a large poster, etc.) as a backdrop. The pale yellow colouration in the eBay listing is almost certainly due to the lighting used and that will affect the true colour of the piece.
Title: Re: (Whitefriars) sage or willow
Post by: johnphilip on January 24, 2013, 09:37:00 AM
Willow is probably the most difficult of the W/Fs colours it seem to pick up colour reflections from all arouind it,  i have been with ex W/Fs workers who have changed their minds many times whilst handling a piece . :-\
Title: Re: (Whitefriars) sage or willow
Post by: David E on January 25, 2013, 08:52:14 AM
If so, JP, then the better way to photo the glass is in a white light tent and [perhaps] using backlighting, with no side or front light at all. The white balance of the camera also needs setting, although you can use an image processing program afterwards (Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro, Irfanview, et al) to adjust the colour balance.
Title: Re: (Whitefriars) sage or willow
Post by: johnphilip on January 25, 2013, 11:08:12 AM
Cheers David but it was usually when out at fairs or auction houses and it seemed everywhere you took the piece the colour would look different . In the house it would pick up the predominant colour in the particular room , light tent Nahhh dont have one ,YET