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Title: Signed small vase P????? Harris? ID = Pantano & Harris, Australia
Post by: chrisade on January 23, 2015, 01:36:05 AM
Triangle shaped vase in splotchy blue. Quite busy on the base and clearly marked but I do not recognise the name. Thanks once again. Chris
Title: Re: And another one!
Post by: antiquerose123 on January 23, 2015, 06:13:56 AM
Hi, could you make your pics bigger to see/read?  Thanks

From what I think I see (or not see...LOL) looks like the last name may be HARRIS...but not sure as pic is small.??
Title: Re: And another one!
Post by: chrisade on January 23, 2015, 06:38:20 AM
Hi Rose,

The picture is small so have enlarged it. I agree that the last part of the name looks like Harris but the rest!!!

Chris
Title: Re: And another one!
Post by: chrisade on January 23, 2015, 10:55:23 PM
Another shot!
Title: Re: And another one!
Post by: misha on January 27, 2015, 06:52:09 PM
Hi Chris,

Looks like the 1st name engraved is Pantano.

His signature and placement on pieces varied over the years.
I try to focus on his works now [not easy], contact by email if you are ever thinking of selling it please.
I have around 10 examples of his work to refer to, but not so easy to access currently. Album here is planned, after I'm better established.

For the site record here.... what's the size dimensions of that bottle?
Height and top flange diameter will be great as would approx hole size length of the base sides length.
And, looking down the throat of bottle, towards the top, does it have a matte appearance from grinding, maybe 5-10mm deep?


The second 'signature' would generally be a 'series' or 'theme' name, sometime Australia appears.
Going by the date/number sequence, it sort of pre-dates 'named' series works, so I'm not sure what it may say.  Looks like 'Harris', but Pantano is pretty clear to me.
Really not sure on that.

Number sequence - looks like TB 208 - 86
This is the number sequence Chris used.
TB - I'd hazard a guess is Triangle Bottle or maybe Base?
The - 86 is 1986.

I have a 'novel' black frosted vase with red applied 'handles' [not frosted] that only has a shallow signature on a rough ground base, I think it's a very early piece, maybe.
I have that era [1986] pieces that have a Chris Pantano siggie.
I have a small perfume bottle with a similar kinda blue spots, but with green spots on a pale green background, clear cased. Not sure of date.
I have pieces shallow and deep engraved siggie and number on base.
I have pieces that have siggie and number on side... one piece has an original black velvet base applied.
I have pieces that have the name Chris Pantano and Australia engraved. My 'Dreamtime' vase is like so and I've seen other pieces likewise engraved.

If I can get some out today, and light is OK, I'll maybe able to post image examples of siggie for you all.

Title: Re: And another one!
Post by: chrisade on January 27, 2015, 09:56:27 PM
Hi Misha

Thank you for your very extensive reply.

I thought the first part was Pantano but the second part Harris threw me off.

Dimensions: Height 10.75cms  Flange 4cms  Hole size approx. 1.3cms  Base sides length all around 6cms

I do have another piece of his but it is a little more grand - currently listed on a website I have circa20.com.au

Thank you so much for all the information, I now know a lot more and appreciate the time you have taken.

Kind regards

Chris
Title: Re: And another one!
Post by: chrisade on January 27, 2015, 09:57:43 PM
Oh I forgot to add that there is no evidence of grinding, it appears smooth.

Cheers

Chris
Title: Re: And another one!
Post by: ahremck on January 27, 2015, 11:58:17 PM
Maybe a collaboration of Chris Pantano & Judy Harris?

Ross
Title: Re: And another one!
Post by: chrisade on January 29, 2015, 05:13:43 AM
Thanks Ross,

Could well be!

Cheers
Chris
 
Title: Re: Signed small vase P????? Harris?
Post by: misha on February 22, 2015, 12:45:23 PM
Maybe a collaboration of Chris Pantano & Judy Harris?

Ross
Hi Ross,

I'm having trouble finding any Judy Harris works images to see any connection to this rather odd bottle.

1986  ???

Is there any chance it may have been another Harris?
I've found something of Jonathan Harris that at first glance looks like a Chris Pantano work.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/391672498814183382/ (https://www.pinterest.com/pin/391672498814183382/)

 ^ Disclaimer: I dread finding myself on a site that wants me to sign up for facebook.
Title: Re: Signed small vase P????? Harris?
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 22, 2015, 03:07:03 PM
Not Jonathan; that is not his signature
Title: Re: Signed small vase P????? Harris?
Post by: brewster on February 22, 2015, 09:40:06 PM
Now the item in question is safely sold on that well-known international auction site, I can engage with this discussion...

This item is definitely a collaboration between Chris Pantano and Judy Harris, as Ross (ahremck) has speculated. Judy Harris learned to blow glass with Peter Minson in the very early 1980s at the Paris Creek craft workshops near Adelaide. She produced items both on her own account and in collaboration with Minson. The first image below shows their joint signatures in their respective handwritings.

A few years later, Harris moved to Chris Pantano's operation in Queensland. Pantano had extensive experience in kiln working glass but, inspired particularly by the example Peter Goss who operated a successful hot glass studio nerarby, he wanted to engage with blowing furnace glass. Thus began the productive Harris-Pantano collaboration. There is an extensive and illustrated article recording their collaboration in the journal Craft Arts, volume 7, page 54. The second photo below shows a small vessel in the same style as many of the items illustrated in that article.

The third image shows the marking on that vessel in what I believe is Chris Pantano's handwriting. (It's not a great photo, I will agree.) By contrast, the markings on the original query item of this thread are made in Judy Harris's handwriting, as can be seen by comparing it with her signature in the first of my images.

Trevor
Title: Re: Signed small vase P????? Harris?
Post by: misha on February 23, 2015, 04:21:47 AM
Interesting.
Thank you once again for helping us with your vast knowledge of Australian art glass.

So, resolved -  Chris Pantano & Judy Harris - 1986
Title: Re: Signed small vase P????? Harris? ID = Pantano & Harris, Australia
Post by: Travelguy on March 12, 2017, 07:23:50 AM
Hi Trevor,
I have been trying to track down information on Judy Harris too, and have been unable to find that publication Craft Arts Vol.7 that you referenced.
Any clues please ?

Lloyd
Title: Re: Signed small vase P????? Harris? ID = Pantano & Harris, Australia
Post by: brewster on March 12, 2017, 07:47:08 AM
The journal changed its name to Craft Arts International at some stage. But it ceased publication last year with vol 96. The volume I mentioned is from 1986. It may be held in your local civic library, but many libraries treat it as a glossy magazine and dispose of older issues. If you have particular questions, I may be able to help. There is not much biographical information in the article beyond what I have given above.

Trevor
Title: Re: Signed small vase P????? Harris? ID = Pantano & Harris, Australia
Post by: Travelguy on March 12, 2017, 08:00:18 AM
Thanks Trevor.  I had been hoping to find a substantial article of some sort (a bit like some of the gems pertaining to Sam Herman), but sounds like this is not it.
Appreciate the message,

Lloyd