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Title: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on January 27, 2016, 12:21:59 PM
I just wanted to show and share a series of VSL that very often gets overlooked or misattributed, for obvious reasons. More then often these pieces from the 20's and 30's series 'Améthyste' are not signed and can only be identified with documentation, ie catalogues or reports. As so little info can be found about it, it's often difficult to spot the right item, but the technique used for these series is also a bit of a giveaway to identify these items.

I don't know if the term 'clear cased' is of use here, as it is unknown to me at the moment, how the colour was applied, but all pieces have a thin layer of Amethyst/plum/aubergine crystal on the inside of each item and the colour is not throughout the crystal. On some of the images it's quite clear to see, as well as the amethyst colour by daylight.

Why do I like this series so much? Besides the fact that it is something you wouldn't expect to be VSL as it isn't the regular 'cut to clear crystal', I like the clean lines, purity of the crystal, the large facets ...basically the whole concept and design, which I think is really stylish.  8)

A negative point is that it's a pain in the neck to take a picture of, as it always shows up brown on an image >:( and because it's so dark in colour, every bit of dust is visible and you don't stop cleaning it.  ::) and due to the concept of clean lines and large facets, every little nick is immediately visible, but I'm glad to say that none of these items are damaged in anyway, whatsoever  ;D

All of these items can be found back in the Cristaux de Fantaisie catalogue from 1926, and the catalogues from 1933 and 1936 as in 1937 these series were taken out of production. Some 50 years later the series Amethyst was reintroduced as a limited edition cut to clear crystal but the colour was more lavender like and not as dark.
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on January 27, 2016, 12:23:24 PM
A few more ...
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 27, 2016, 12:50:48 PM
Wow.  8)

Thank-you for giving us all this wonderful show of incredibly unusual, important and stunning glass!

Is it possible to drink comforably out of glasses with such thick, flat polished rims?
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on January 27, 2016, 01:09:29 PM
Thanks Sue! Re your question, i would not know, I usually drink from the bottle ... just kidding, I've never used them.

What usually gets overlooked as well are the series 'Topaze' and 'Bleu-Pompéi'. I managed to get my hands on this vase, simply because people didn't think it was VSL, but I've got it catalogued.
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 27, 2016, 02:17:24 PM
I would think that if somebody ever found any of this range, unmarked, they might have suspected Moser,
but the way the colour is used, with the thin internal layer of colour, is not compatible with Moser, is it?
I'm so pleased you're here, Anne. We are very lucky to have all your wonderful contributions. :)
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on January 27, 2016, 03:02:51 PM
Thank you Sue  :-[

Yes, it get's often mistaken for Moser, especially the vase 'Nungesser' in my 2nd post, the last two images. Underneath here, there's an image from the 1933 catalogue.

I believe Moser have a similar, but smaller model, more 'smokey' in colour but throughout the glass, and especially on the second picture, you can see the difference with the clear crystal layer on the outside.



Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: flying free on January 27, 2016, 10:53:41 PM
I love that box.  Stunning form.
And thank you for sharing - it's great to read about new information and see designs I've never seen before.

m
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: David E on January 28, 2016, 10:26:12 AM
Yes, it get's often mistaken for Moser, especially the vase 'Nungesser' in my 2nd post, the last two images. Underneath here, there's an image from the 1933 catalogue.

Ah, that would explain why I see so much "Moser" when trawling the fairs in Holland! I shall have to reappraise these finds.
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on October 03, 2016, 07:05:55 AM
I just wanted to show my latest find, the largest piece in the  Améthyste series from the 20's, standing at 30 cm or 1 foot high and weighing 5 kg.
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 03, 2016, 11:11:31 AM
Nice one, well done
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 03, 2016, 11:30:18 AM
 :)
Don't drop it on your foot. :o
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne E.B. on October 03, 2016, 02:48:18 PM
Very classy, elegant and timeless pieces.
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on October 03, 2016, 09:15:03 PM
Thank you all ... and i'll try not to do my back in either.
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on April 12, 2017, 11:40:47 AM
One of my latest finds, just for show. I've never managed to even see one of these outside a museum and I'm so happy that I managed to get my hands on it. It is one of the most illustrated pieces by VSL, I've got at least 7 books that it's in and it's 31 cm high, just over a foot. Vase Jonghen 'Iris' registered L77, designed by/under Léon Ledru in 1897 and absorbed in the 1908 catalogue. The engraving's really deep and it should show up nicely with a dark background, I think.
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Post by: Lustrousstone on April 12, 2017, 12:18:17 PM
Beautiful Anne  ;D
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on April 12, 2017, 12:36:51 PM
Thank you   :-*
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Daniel on June 15, 2017, 03:16:03 PM
What a great exhibit! It is certainly easy to get enthused with VSL! These are wonderful.
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on October 02, 2017, 10:30:15 AM
I'm just so excited to be able to show you this little engraved vase. It took me a while to date and find out everything about it, but I've managed to do so.

Just to put it in context, Charles Graffart was head of design at VSL from 1942-1958. In the 50ies he designed a range of engraved pieces, that were signed and dated at the bottom of the vase. As you can see, this one's signed on the side but not dated, so I got curious. I knew engraving was his very first passion, but the only pieces you come across are from the 50ies, and I never considered anything else.

Digging a bit into his history at VSL, I found out that around 1923/1924, just after he finished his training and studies, he engraved several, one-off pieces that were used at the World Exhibition in Paris 1925. As they were such a success, he was commissioned in 1926-1929 to produce 300, all unique and different pieces for VSL, all signed and numbered from 1-300, and several of these numbered and unnumbered pieces are visible in museums and illustrated in books.


I came across an article, a report just after the Expo, in which these vases were described, and luckily enough, I managed to get my hands on a copy of the original Exhibition catalogue from 1925. To my surprise, it contains a sketch , made by Graffart himself, with the vase right in the middle. I've held it next to the image and the foliage and subject are exactly the same.

The reason why it is signed on the side and not on the bottom, is because it was a presentation piece and not done in several examples, as they, the commercial pieces, were signed on the bottom. The reason why it isn't numbered is due to the fact that it's not part of the 300 pieces, but one or two years older than that, part of the series for the Exhibition in 1925. 60 pieces from the Exhibition got absorbed in the Catalogue Cristaux de Fantaisie or Fantasy Crystal catalogue,  but again, this vase is not part it.

I can therefor, date this vase to 1924/5, and it is part of a series of unique, non-commercial and therefor uncatalogued,  pieces. 
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on October 02, 2017, 10:41:34 AM
The sketch in the Exhibition catalogue of 1925.
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 02, 2017, 11:15:21 AM
Well done!!
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Post by: chopin-liszt on October 02, 2017, 11:21:15 AM
 :o :o :o
You must be absolutely thrilled. ;D
I'm feeling some of your excitement here and enjoying it myself. What a treasure to have and to know all you do about it. :)
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on October 02, 2017, 02:24:18 PM
Thank you both! I thought I was going to pass out once I realized... and now it's standing here and I'm looking at it!

For those with the latest, or rather last, edition of Cappa, there's a nice example on page 64, nr 89. That vase, or bottle missing it's stopper, is numbered, so it's from 1926-1929, and not from 1925/1926, but what's a couple of years and  who's counting anyway ... I stopped years ago.
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 02, 2017, 03:48:37 PM
You can look at it every day for the rest of your life!
It's something to make your every day a little bit better. :-*
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on October 14, 2017, 11:13:53 PM
My latest purchase and the oldest VSL pieces that I've had so far. A pair of hyalite vases, polychrome enamelled and gilt, imitating the Japanese lacquer ware from the late 19th century. Dated 1880 and manufactured at the Herbatte division of VSL and decorated by Monsieur Léon Foller. The décor is called 'Canard au col-vert', literally this translates as duck with  green neck, but I think mallard is better.
At 30 cm a piece, don't they look nice on my mantelpiece?   

(the vase is not damaged at the rim, it's just a shadow from the plant in the window  ;D)
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 15, 2017, 11:08:05 AM
Lovely, well done Anne
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 15, 2017, 02:01:31 PM
Your (stunning!) mantlepiece was made for them. They look absolutely perfect and completely at home there.
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on October 16, 2017, 08:59:52 AM
Thank you both for your kind words.
I didn't realize that they were especially made for mantelpieces. I came across an article and it was mentioned that they were specifically made for this purpose, and I wondered how this conclusion was made,  until I realized that they're flat at the back and front... makes sense now. Often a mantel mirror goes all the way down and rests on the surface, so the decoration on the back can be seen too. Here the mirror doesn't reach all the way down and as it has a weight like a dead donkey, I'm not going to move it  ;D

I think everybody will agree that, whatever 'house' has your preference, it's always so rewarding to discover new pieces, styles and info as a lot of information gets lost or just 'waters down' with time.
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: KevinH on October 16, 2017, 05:20:34 PM
Posts about 19th century walls and their maintenance have been moved to the Cafe.
See: Re: Val St Lambert - 19th century walls (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,65706.msg367423.html#msg367423)
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on October 17, 2017, 07:48:17 AM
Funny ... when I mentioned 'house' I meant manufacturer ... just realized that now. :D

Just to get back on track ... one more piece I'd like to show, because I think it's important in  art history, not  this piece in particular,  but more the movement.

At VSL it was also decided, or a temptation was made, to make an end to the Art Nouveau Movement, but it didn't go as fast and strong as for instance the WW movement.

The décor in general had been simplified at the time, but techniques were developed and often combined on one piece. It is still based on a floral/foliage  theme but more stylized. Léon Ledru, head of creative designs at the time, collaborated with Philippe Wolfers, Henri Van De Velde and Victor Horta, all big names when it comes to Belgian design. He must have been influenced by their styles, ideas and opinions, and what was created, was a style we call here in Belgium, 'Modern Style' or 'Style Henri Van De Velde'. It was short-lived though, and pieces are not always easy to identify due to lack of signature, but once you've seen it, it's instantly recognisable. For me this is a transition style, going from Art Nouveau to Art Deco.

The small, ball shaped vase, is ruby-red cut to clear, has been cut 'au burin' with satin finish (not sure what the expression in English is, to create this 'hammered' effect) and wheel cut and polished. The curved lines that are cut, are accentuated by the satin finish and personally, i find this particularly effective.

I've added a vase Jonghen Iris, both pieces were presented at the 1897 World Exhibition in Brussels and when you put them next to each other, I guess it's clear why this was called 'Modern Style'.     
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: flying free on October 18, 2017, 10:57:17 PM
Gosh Anne, I LOVE that engraved vase - it's gorgeous.

Your mantlepiece looks glorious with the vases in situ.

And the effect on the most recent vase is I think called 'hammered' in English.

You have collected some amazing pieces !

m
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on October 24, 2017, 12:50:24 PM
Thank you! The engraved vase, you meant the one with the child? I'm trying to find a way to exhibit it or something. I got in touch with a writer on VSL. The vase is known due to the Expo catalogue, but not been seen for God knows how long. I found out that half way through the 30ies, the engraved pieces were all sold, and as this vase is not illustrated anywhere else, I guess it ended up in private hands. I thought it would be nice to share it, as the others from the series are in museums already.
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: flying free on October 24, 2017, 02:26:44 PM
yes the one with the figure.

The hammered effect might actually be known as martele?

m
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on October 24, 2017, 04:52:35 PM
Yes, that's right, martelé comes from martelage.
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on October 26, 2017, 08:46:24 PM
Just two images to show the engraving, and not because it's my vase but I think it's pretty well done ... I can't even draw like that ... unfortunately I haven't been able to get rid of the reflections.

Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on October 15, 2018, 04:56:31 PM
Just an update on the engraved vase with the child, right above in my last post.

 I have been approached by the curator of a museum here in Belgium and after some consideration, decided that it deserves to be shared with the public. It will be placed in a new exhibition with its catalogue. I'm happy with that but with mixed emotions at the same time I have to add. I know it's just a vase but it was such an exciting discovery and research to do, finding more and more info as time went on, but as it is part of the Belgian cultural heritage, it should be seen by everybody who wishes to do so, instead of sitting here in my living room. It will be joining some of the other pieces used for the exhibitions, and it is a nice thought that after 90 years, they're slowly getting back together again.



Another piece I wanted to show is this vase  'Fragnée', red crystal cased with a colour VSL called 'bleu Pompéi'. The pattern is cut on the inside of the vase and not on the outside. VSL had just a few models that they used this pattern on but I don't know if they were exclusive in doing so. In french we call this cut pastilles or lentils, but I don't know the English word for it. Bubble cut?  :D  Have I invented a new word? Illustrated in the 1926 catalogue and 26 cm in height.
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: flying free on October 15, 2018, 05:52:41 PM
Lovely to hear the update on the engraved vase. 
And I love the new red and blue vase - that's absolutely fabulous.
I think the cut might be referred to as 'lenses' or maybe 'lozenges' perhaps, but I would think of them as 'lenses'?

m
Title: Re: Val St Lambert - Just for show...
Post by: Anne Tique on October 15, 2018, 08:11:41 PM
Lenses would make sense, it creates an optic effect, thanks M.