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Title: One thing leads to another.......
Post by: theElench on December 15, 2017, 07:51:26 AM
After posting on the thread about the Sowerby "Sunray" set I thought I'd try to find a photo of it in pink, as I had claimed to have seen examples.

While searching I came across www.free-stock-illustrations.com "Sowerby Dressing Table Sets".  They didn't have a picture of the Sunray set but have a green set with pots matching GTS "Mystery No. 4" with tray, pots, candlesticks and ring-holder.  Sorry I don't know how to do links [ * ] and as the page is marked with the copy-right symbol and "All rights reserved" am not sure whether I should add a picture here.

[ * ] Mod: URL made clickable - but cannot find target page for "Sowerby"

While checking #4 in the Mysteries section I noticed that the intro. page has an illustration of a previous Mysteries page.  It shows a candlestick with an oval base as Mystery No. 10.  In the current pages this has disappeared, no. 10 is now a different set.  Has the candlestick mystery now been solved?
Title: Re: One thing leads to another.......
Post by: theElench on December 16, 2017, 08:04:35 AM
Shown on page "Sowerby Glass Dressing Table Sets"
Title: Re: One thing leads to another.......
Post by: Lustrousstone on December 16, 2017, 05:47:55 PM
I'm pretty confident that is wrong. I think these are much more likely to be Czech and I'm not convinced the whole lot goes together
Title: Re: One thing leads to another.......
Post by: Anne on December 16, 2017, 08:00:19 PM
The search term "Sowerby Dressing Table Sets" on http://www.free-stock-illustrations.com (http://www.free-stock-illustrations.com) just gives me a duck with an Uh oh we can't find that page... in fact a search for Sowerby finds nothing too so I'm a bit stuck with that link.  :'(

However, looking at your image above, I can confirm that the pots are mystery set #4 and believed to be Czech but I'm not sure which maker as yet but there are strong hints that it is Stoelzl.

The tray is Stoelzl (Czech) - Pamela has one in her collection as a decanter set tray.
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/karaffen/02444.jpg (http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/karaffen/02444.jpg)

The ringholder has been looked at before and I am pretty sure it is Stoelzl too https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,48428.0.html (https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,48428.0.html)

Candlesticks are mystery set #37 and are found in the same tortoiseshell glass as mystery #4 but as part of a different set design:
http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/Gallery/thumbnails.php?album=40 (http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/Gallery/thumbnails.php?album=40)

My gut feeling is that they are all Stoelzl but I haven't yet found proof to confirm this. The green "set" above would therefore appear to me to all be Stoelzl but made up of parts of 3 or 4 different sets.
Title: Re: One thing leads to another.......
Post by: theElench on December 17, 2017, 06:37:48 AM
Oh dear, not Sowerby, not even a set!  Sorry to have raised a red herring.

What happened to the candlestick previously listed as Mystery 10?