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Title: Anybody recognize this mystery mark?
Post by: Glasshound on September 07, 2006, 04:33:46 PM
This one has me stumped...

/Blair

(http://i5.tinypic.com/4h37gxe.jpg)
Title: Anybody recognize this mystery mark?
Post by: Frank on September 07, 2006, 04:43:06 PM
Can you show the piece too :)
Title: Anybody recognize this mystery mark?
Post by: Glasshound on September 07, 2006, 04:53:06 PM
it's a "secret"...Sshhhhhhhhh!  :wink:
Title: Anybody recognize this mystery mark?
Post by: KevinH on September 07, 2006, 06:04:04 PM
Sorry, I can't identify it ... but I have an item with the same mark, which has good indications of some age.

Vase, 10 inch height, 5 1/4 inch widest. Cased blue over white. Most of the body covered with hand-applied white enamel decoration within and over a now-hard-to-see gilded decorative lattice pattern. Many of the separate dots of enamel are still visibly covered with a small dot of gilding. There is also a worn gilded line around the lower part of the body just above the base.

The mark is gilded (?) and there is, in the right lighting, a clear, but feint, rectangle of "dark residue" around the mark as if it was transfer applied but somehow the clear part of the transfer left its own mark or stain.

Full view:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3218

Detail of gilded enamel decoration:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3217

Base view, showing the mark:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3216

Shaky closeup view of the mark:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3215

I have had this for well over 10 years and never discovered its origins, although I guessed it was probably French.
Title: Anybody recognize this mystery mark?
Post by: Ron on September 07, 2006, 06:55:39 PM
From my scribbled notes it's Alnin (or Alvin) & Co., France.
Title: Anybody recognize this mystery mark?
Post by: Glasshound on September 07, 2006, 07:03:10 PM
Interesting...does anyone have Glasmarken Lexicon 1600 - 1945?

I wonder if it appears in there?

/Blair
Title: Anybody recognize this mystery mark?
Post by: KevinH on September 07, 2006, 10:46:35 PM
I have the Glasmarken Lexikon and I am fairly certain that neither the mark itself nor any reference to "Alnin" or "Alvin" (or anything similar) appear in the book.
Title: Anybody recognize this mystery mark?
Post by: Frank on September 08, 2006, 07:44:20 AM
If Blair's piece is also enamelled, the styllised palette would suggest a decorators' mark.
Title: Anybody recognize this mystery mark?
Post by: itsagas on September 18, 2006, 04:22:33 AM
The marks shown appear on my monitor to  have been done in red paint.  Is that correct?  I have the same mark on a pair of pink over white cased glass vases, but the mark is acid etched.  The decoration is very similar to the blue one above.  No help, I know, but I'm wondering if the mark was applied using different methods.

Bill