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Glass Discussion & Research. No ID requests here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: Max on January 03, 2007, 12:38:14 PM

Title: Czech? Unusual dark green vase
Post by: Max on January 03, 2007, 12:38:14 PM
I've had this quite a while (forgot to tell Marcus about it  ::))  I think it's been on the GMB before, about 18 months ago - one of Ivo's postings.

I think this vase is stunning - I love the simple, deep moulding.  Measuring 9" high with a four part mould, I've never seen another one like it, and thought it was worth showing again to see if anyone recognises it...

I'd have shown an internal shot, but it's got a dead spider and lots of webs in it. :-X

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4445

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4444

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4443

Any clues anyone?  Edit:  Actually I'm not sure where this vase hails from - just a country of origin would be good!  :)
Title: Re: Czech? Unusual dark green vase
Post by: Sklounion on January 03, 2007, 04:55:01 PM
Hi Max,
It is as you think Czech, VHJ Obal/Sklo Union, by Vladislav Urban, Rudolfova hut' pattern number 13153/210, and between 1959 and 1963.
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: Czech? Unusual dark green vase
Post by: Glen on January 03, 2007, 05:31:24 PM
I have a drawing of 13153/205 which is similar, but seems to have smaller motifs. Would that be right?

Glen
Title: Re: Czech? Unusual dark green vase
Post by: Max on January 03, 2007, 06:02:10 PM
Hi Max,
It is as you think Czech, VHJ Obal/Sklo Union, by Vladislav Urban, Rudolfova hut' pattern number 13153/210, and between 1959 and 1963.
Regards,
Marcus

Absolutely amazing Marcus!  I can't tell you how pleased I am to have it so succinctly identified!  This vase is a favourite of mine, and it seems my favour was well placed.  :D  I didn't expect a definite attribution - I'm knocked out!  Thank you!   :D :D

Title: Re: Czech? Unusual dark green vase
Post by: Sklounion on January 03, 2007, 06:54:39 PM
Hi Glen and Max,

Max, a pleasure as always.

Glen,

It would be right, but, as you are aware, Czechoslovakian glass history can be a mine-field. With your drawing, the realities of converting design into production, may well necessitate slightly differing moulds. Thus testing a prototype mould may lead to changes, or problems with creating a (Max, I take it this is a four piece mould?)use-able mould that will withstand constant use. Also we have found differences in individual pieces, where one might think of this as mass-production, and therefore each piece would be identical. In addition, drawings from one source, ie VUSU, may differ slightly from a drawing for Glassexport, and so on......

As with your Piccadilly vase, sometimes, "known" wisdom leaves you with more questions than answers.

In the case of Max's vase, the vase has given one answer, and created even more issues to consider.

Glass, the endeavours of Sisyphus, writ LARGE.

Regards,

Marcus
Title: Re: Czech? Unusual dark green vase
Post by: Glen on January 03, 2007, 07:27:25 PM
Marcus - many thanks.

And I always have more questions than answers......nothing changes. The more I learn, the more I don't know.

Glen