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I think that refers to the meander decoration?
Warren described it as a 'Irrweg' vase ( infinite path ) a German translation says 'on the wrong path' so which I have no idea, he also said these were made for the English market.
Glass / Venice painted panel compared to Miotti plate 18th century
« Last post by flying free on Yesterday at 11:43:04 PM »
I put this on the board somewhere years ago - bought many years ago in Venice.  I think we decided that it was old:)

Looking at the link Peter (oldglassman) posted to the Corning I came across this Miotti plate dated 1741
and it occurred to me the view was incredibly similar to my painting :)

So possibly as though the people in my little piece  were painted standing on the jetty at the entrance to the Grand Canal
as per this painting:

i.e. the artist of my picture may have been sat there on that jetty painting them :) - almost like touching history, a very odd feeling.

The link to the painting above is also c.1740s and in my painting you can see the white edge to the pavementing as well.
Very interesting - I know it's not glass, but the Miotti is ;D

Under the heading of 'Bauta' in this link, there is a short explanation about the full face all white masks seen in my painting. It describes the people in my painting exactly and refers to the 18th century.  I'm thinking my panel dates back to then.

'The bauta (sometimes referred as bałtta) is a mask, today often heavily gilded though originally simple stark white, which is designed to comfortably cover the entire face; this traditional grotesque piece of art was characterized by the inclusion of an over-prominent nose, a thick supraorbital ridge, a projecting "chin line", and no mouth. The mask's beak-like chin is designed to enable the wearer to talk, eat, and drink without having to remove it, thereby preserving the wearer's anonymity. The bauta was often accompanied by a red or black cape and a tricorn.
In the 18th century, together with a black cape called a "tabarro", the bauta had become a standardized society mask and disguise regulated by the Venetian government'

Interestingly, in that link there is reference to the masks being made of 'glass'? 
'Venetian masks can be made of leather, porcelain or using the original glass technique.'

See also this link which shows a painting depicting wearers in the bauta and the tabarro

The painting here is by Giovanni Grevembroch - ' "Mascare" - (18th century)'

Glass / Re: Deco style vase or not !
« Last post by keith on Yesterday at 11:38:46 PM »
Does look a little 'flower potty' doesn't it  ;D ;D
British & Irish Glass / Re: Royal Brierley lighting
« Last post by keith on Yesterday at 11:37:08 PM »
Thanks m, I had seen it and it's in my collection of shapes and colours  ;D
I'll email Mr Williams-Thomas and ask if he knows, although he didn't answer my last one so we'll have to wait and see  ::) ;D ;D
Strange, Walker & Hall was the first name I thought of, Warren Galle put a date of around 1865 and , if I remember right called it a particular name, I'll get back to that. Like you say it may have been an English retail mark, I'll do more googling  ;D ;D
the stamped mark is interesting isn't it?  I wonder what period it dates to, to be handpainted and to have a stamped mark (retailer mark maybe?)
There is reference in the Harrach book to orders from Harrach for specific companies, but none are 'W & H' that I can see.  I wonder who they were? maybe a retailer in the Midlands perhaps?
Walker and Hall is the only company I can think of and they were/are silver/goldsmiths in Sheffield - however the ampersand isn't designed in the same way as their hallmark (although there may have been earlier versions than I've found) and I'd have thought it may have been if it were for them.
So still no confirmation that the 'Rainbow' range is an official pattern name?  (this is in reference to another thread about the use of the name arabesque and arboresque).
British & Irish Glass / Re: Royal Brierley lighting
« Last post by flying free on Yesterday at 10:28:36 PM »
at least I think it is :)
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