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Glass Animals & Figurines / Re: Lamp worked musical troupe, box and labels
« Last post by Coupsdestylo on February 24, 2017, 08:15:09 AM »
It does look like 2 different troupes to me, researching some of these makers it seems the majority of figurines made were animals so it is feasible to assume that they just had one box design done for all figurines.
British & Irish Glass / Re: Chance intaglio plates for show.
« Last post by keith on February 23, 2017, 11:47:43 PM »
No, not yet, really after the early hanky vases, a small floral vase with purple flowers sold for £70 plus recently on ebay  :o ;D ;D
Glass / Re: 1958 World fair expo vase
« Last post by Anne Tique on February 23, 2017, 09:38:48 PM »
Would everyone at the exhibition use the same logo like a football world cup event. I'm guessing they are all souvenirs.

To be honest, I don't really know anymore now. I only know the star shaped one, there's still plenty of Expo '58 stuff out here in Belgium and I always thought that  was the official one,  just Google Expo '58 logo. This is the first time I see a different one referring to the Expo,  obviously the logo in question only refers to the USSR and the Expo '58 logo isn't integrated into theirs, as far as I can see.
Glass / Re: 1958 World fair expo vase
« Last post by flying free on February 23, 2017, 09:27:04 PM »
a minor question from me as well.

Who is to say the label wasn't used after the exhibition?  Was there a rule about who used the stickers?  Did someone go round and specially stick them on the items in the expo pavilion, or... were each company allowed to use the stickers on their items thereafter, to denote they'd exhibited at the Expo 58?

It was 1958 - and, it is claimed, someone stole the Sputnik facsimile after all -so rules may not be rules.
Russia appears to have 'folded up' their pavilion and taken it home with them  :o  Amazing feat of engineering that.

From Wikipedia

'The USSR[edit]
The Soviet pavilion was a large impressive building which they folded up and took back to Russia when Expo 58 ended. They had a facsimile of Sputnik which mysteriously disappeared, and they accused the US of stealing it[citation needed]. They had a bookstore selling science and technology books in English and other languages published by the Moscow Press. On the exposition there was also a model of Lenin first nuclear icebreaker, and cars: GAZ-21 Volga, GAZ-13 Chaika, ZIL-111, Moskvitch 407 and 423, trucks GAZ-53 and MAZ-525.[8] The Soviet exposition was awarded with a Grand Prix.[8]'
Glass / Re: 1958 World fair expo vase
« Last post by brucebanner on February 23, 2017, 09:22:59 PM »
Would everyone at the exhibition use the same logo like a football world cup event. I'm guessing they are all souvenirs.
British & Irish Glass / Re: Ink Wells, Ink Bottles and Stands
« Last post by agincourt17 on February 23, 2017, 09:00:33 PM »
Re. glass inkstand RD 318467, registered by Widmore Hyatt of 5 Newhall Street, Dudley, on 9 February 1878 - Parcel 14.

I was particularly curious about this design because I was brought up on the outskirts of Dudley and went to the Grammar School in the town itself.

Although there are records of several glassworks operating in Dudley town in the mid-19th century, all but two seem to have ceased  production by 1875. The two remaining were:

The Eve Hill Glassworks, whose main production under the Lane family concentrated on lamp glasses and fancy globes and shades for various types of lighting, though they also made confectionery glass and stationer's equipment. This glassworks was operational until its closure in 1932 - the last of the Dudley glassworks, thereby ending a 200 year old tradition.

The Castle Foot Glassworks (situated, as its name suggests, at the foot of Dudley Castle hill opposite the end of the present Tower Street, and in the area of the present Dudley Zoo offices). Founded in the 1780s, by the 1870's it was run by John Renaud and produced mainly heavy cut and engraved table glass. It was operational until 1900 as Renaud & Son, and the main glasshouse was demolished in 1902.

In neither case can I find any mention of Widmore Hyatt in their records. 

A brief genealogical search has also failed to yield any results (which surprises me somewhat as  both 'Widmore' and 'Hyatt' are unusual  names, especially in the Dudley area).

Unfortunately, Newhall Street, Dudley, seems to have disappeared now,  probably as a  result of the extensive development of much of the town centre post-WW2.

If Widmore & Hyatt were retailers or merchants there were, of course, numerous glass bottle works and other glass works in the nearby Stourbridge area (or not much further away, in Birmingham) perfectly capable of producing ink bottles, ink stands, and the like on their behalf.

British & Irish Glass / Re: Ink Wells, Ink Bottles and Stands
« Last post by agincourt17 on February 23, 2017, 08:20:27 PM »
Re. glass inkstand RD 270525, registered by Henry Herbert of 2 Charterhouse Building, [Goswell Road], London, EC., on 17 February 1873 - Parcel 8.

This is the only design registered by Henry Herbert revealed by an online summary search at TNA.

From the London Gazette of 12 July, 1872:
NOTICE is hereby given, that the Partnership heretofore existing between us the undersigned, Henry Herbert and Thomas Higgins, carrying on business at 2, Charterhouse Buildings, Goswell Rroad, in the county of Middlesex, as Merchants and Manufacturers, under the style of Herbert and Higgins, has been this day dissolved by mutual consent. All debts due and owing to and from the late concern will be received and paid by the said Henry Herbert, who will continue to carry on the said business on his own account.—As witness our hands this 5th day of July, 1872.
Henry Herbert.
Thomas Higgins

Derived from:
Charterhouse Buildings stood on what is now the southern corner of Clerkenwell Road and Goswell Road. The stimulus for building them was the departure of Charterhouse School to Godalming and the sale of the old premises at the Charterhouse to the Merchant Taylors' Company as a new home for its own school. Part of the attraction was the spaciousness of the grounds. But given the Merchant Taylors' limited funds, and the need for alterations and extensive new building, a substantial part of the site, mostly playground and including the valuable frontages to Wilderness Row and Goswell Road, had to be let or sold for development. The property was conveyed to the Merchant Taylors in two lots, the intended building ground in 1868 and the remainder a few years later. In 1869 a small piece fronting Goswell Road was bought by the Ecclesiastical Commissioners for building two adjoining vicarages: one for St Thomas's Charterhouse, immediately to the south of the plot, the other for St Mary's Charterhouse, in Playhouse Yard, between Golden Lane and Whitecross Street. At the same time, a deal was struck with two City warehousemen, Henry Thomas Tubbs and Joseph Lewis, for the development of the rest of the building ground.  Tubbs and Lewis built up most of the ground themselves, initially taking leases of the new buildings and subsequently exercising their option to buy the freeholds of both built-up and still-vacant plots. Their buildings were designed by the architect John Collier.
Of the original development by Tubbs and Lewis of 1870–4 only a fragment survives: Nos 4–7 Charterhouse Buildings in Goswell Road, erected in 1870. Many of the buildings were destroyed by fire in 1885. In this conflagration, reportedly the biggest London had seen since the Tooley Street blaze of 1861, the warehouses were reduced to rubble, their walls burst apart by the expansion of the iron floor-beams. Their replacements, and several more of the buildings, including Foresters' Hall and the two vicarages (Nos 27 and 27A Goswell Road) suffered heavy bomb-damage in the Second World War and had to be demolished. Much of the vacant land was acquired by St Bartholomew's Hospital Medical College for building on, but remained vacant for many years, used only as parking space.  Redevelopment of this site, which extends from Clerkenwell Road behind Charterhouse Buildings to Goswell Street, began in 2006. The new buildings, collectively called Charterhouse the Square, comprise flats and some commercial spaces, together with a cardiac and cancer research centre for Bart's Hospital

British & Irish Glass / Re: Chance intaglio plates for show.
« Last post by glassobsessed on February 23, 2017, 07:59:37 PM »
Should have guessed. ;D

Any opal?
British & Irish Glass / Re: Chance intaglio plates for show.
« Last post by keith on February 23, 2017, 07:57:05 PM »
They are very nice, my first in blue, do have a round one  ;D
British & Irish Glass / Re: Chance intaglio plates for show.
« Last post by glassobsessed on February 23, 2017, 07:46:28 PM »
Nice find Keith, they are simple yet more than the sum of their parts, always liked these Chance cut designs, have yet to find a round one.

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