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British & Irish Glass / Re: Stuart engraved individual water jug
« Last post by Lustrousstone on Yesterday at 06:58:37 AM »
Yes please Paul
Glass / Re: Black Sabino Platax Vase
« Last post by Mosquito on Yesterday at 03:42:22 AM »
Hi Roy,

A very nice find. I've seen a few bits of black Sabino over the years (sometimes with gilding) but don't remember having seen a platax vase in this finish before.

Typically these part-frosted pieces were finished by first painting parts of the pattern with an acid resistant material before then dipping the vase in an acid bath to frost/ stainize it. Once the resist is removed the protected parts remain shiny. I'm sure it would have been done at the factory as this was a fairly typical technique for Sabino. I've had quite a few bits of early Sabino through my hands over the years and I would say the standard of finishing can be pretty variable. Missed bits of frosting and overlap/ etc. aren't that uncommon in my experience.

British & Irish Glass / Re: Webb Corbett, Irene Stevens vase for show.
« Last post by keith on August 27, 2014, 11:04:56 PM »
Thanks both, I did try with black card but my 'moody' camera refused to focus, might just be me though  ::) ;D
Glass Paperweights / Re: Murano
« Last post by BobKegeles on August 27, 2014, 10:08:38 PM »
It helps a great deal Derek, thank you .
British & Irish Glass / Re: Stuart engraved individual water jug
« Last post by Paul S. on August 27, 2014, 09:53:11 PM »
Nigel's comments are probably true  -  so many times when I check these BT design items at Kew, it is almost always the shape that is the subject of the Registration.              In the attached pic showing specific wording for a Stuart design (by coincidence), you can see how the final sentence - which is standard on virtually all Registrations - indicates that the 'novelty is in the shape etc.'.
I can include this one when next I visit the Archives if it's of interest.

John's 'small jug' is a Stuart piece that I've also had in the past  -  long since given away I'm sure, and I forget the size now  -   mine did have a small inset lid, as shown in the attached pic. and it had the Woodchester cut design.        I forget now whether is was marked with an Rd. No. or not :-[
The shape of these small Stuart jugs is distinctive.
British & Irish Glass / Re: Monart or not ?
« Last post by millarart on August 27, 2014, 09:50:00 PM »
best not , safest and easiest way I would say  8)
British & Irish Glass / Re: Webb Corbett, Irene Stevens vase for show.
« Last post by Paul S. on August 27, 2014, 09:16:48 PM »
yes, I've also seen that CH's examples was dated 1967, although in view of Nigel's written comments detailing Irene Stevens departure from Webb Corbett, I was still assuming that the date of this design was earlier.

If Nigel has the time, perhaps he might comment - and I hope the new shelf can take the weight ;)

Do you ever consider clear pieces such as this against a darker background  -  I can never get pix with good contrast using a pale background. :)
Glass Paperweights / Re: Murano
« Last post by Derek on August 27, 2014, 08:53:58 PM »
Hi Bob

The Owl is in my opinion Murano and probably a heat resistant transfer print which were mainly used in the pottery industry. Murano made MANY designs using this technique including classical motifs and hot air balloons. Whitefriars also experimented with this technique and a search on GMB will find many strings referring to these transfer weights. I am not aware that these weights have been isolated to a pacticular Murano factory.

The Vintage car is an American weight - the clue is the "M" at the bottom of the design and these were made by Tom Mosser - roughly between the mid 1970's and 1990's. Again there is a lengthy string discussing how Mosser made these designs...


Hope this helps

British & Irish Glass / Re: Monart or not ?
« Last post by KevinH on August 27, 2014, 08:53:42 PM »
Presumably, naming someone publicly in this context could easily result in legal action.
Yes, we must always take great care in such matters.

And, in any case of alleged fraud / faking etc., even if somebody has apparent documentary proof of any allegation, it is best for the purposes of this Board that such details should not be posted. This is especially true for alleged actions that have not been proven one way or another by such as a court of law.
« Last post by Lustrousstone on August 27, 2014, 08:53:03 PM »
I'm not sure what you mean in your description of the pontil mark and I can't see it clearly on your picture. On something like this it wouldn't be pressed; it would be snapped/broken, heat polished or ground to varying standards. You can't actually have a pressed pontil mark because it is where the pontil rod is broken away from the glass, though you might have a blob of glass applied over it with perhaps an impression on it.
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