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Glass / Re: Small cut drinking glass
« Last post by Paul S. on April 17, 2014, 07:14:29 PM »
hi Mat  --  our sincere thanks for taking the time to provide a very interesting reply  -  look forward to seeing more of the pieces you have found after Easter.
Problems that plagued earlier localized glass producers throughout Europe, was the need for fuel for the furnaces and quality sand, and perhaps there were difficulties with some of these materials.
It would be interesting to know if there were specific characteristics of Greek Glass, or whether features were simply copied from central European styles.
What would a typical ouzo drinking glass have looked like in the C19?

Would agree that the piece you have shown looks to be C19, but we have others here who will know more about mid/eastern European styles - certainly the frilly/crimped rim also looks right for the period.
You'll probably be aware that the snapped pontil scar has a long history in the glass industry, and appears frequently on all sort of wares even to the end of the C19 and beyond.
Decoration with enameled colours, and gilding (which may possibly on this piece have been applied by means of transfer) was also very common, and the fact that this isn't lead glass doesn't affect the dating.
Alternatives to lead glass, would have been either soda or potash glass (the alkalis), but chemistry not my thing, so will leave to others to decide - although believe soda glass often gives the glass a browny/yellow cast.
Let's see if others can help to pinpoint an origin and date for you more precisely - but it's a good looking piece.

Thanks for the links - I'm sure we shall have some members who will enjoy this information. :)   

Glass / Re: Any ideas, Pukeberg :-/
« Last post by ultimatecodfather on April 17, 2014, 05:42:28 PM »
spot on, knew id seen it before but wouldnt have guessed who i dont think  :)
Glass / Small twist vase, any i.d please.
« Last post by Paul_lower on April 17, 2014, 05:41:37 PM »
  One of the stock i cannot find anything on, measures 16 centimetres in height and 6.5 centimetres wide with six cranberry edges, the base tapers into centre slightly, it has silver collar from 1908 attached.
Glass / Re: Small cut drinking glass
« Last post by MatW on April 17, 2014, 05:36:35 PM »
Hi Paul,
interesting question. Some time ago, I had tried to find out something about it.  I have found only a few articles about the history of glass industry in Greece, and I will try to resume what is written there. In the time of the first king of Greece, Otto (1832-1862), there have been some attempts to develop a glass industry, but none of these early glass factories survived for more than a few years. It seems that, despite of the existence of natural resources for glass production, nearly all glassware in Greece was imported, and there were some contemporary newspaper articles complaining about this. Greece spent 1 million Drachmas (per year?) for glass imports at that time, which was quite a lot of money back then. Greek glass industry seems to have started in the 1870s on the island of Syros and in Piraeus. The most important glass factory was that of  Dimitris Christos Argyropoulos, that was founded in the early 1870s in Hermoupolis on Syros and was transferred to Piraeus in 1895.  At the beginning of C20 it was the only existing glass factory in the country. After Easter I will post some pieces of  C19 glasses I found here, I think most of them were imported from central Europe. Here I show just one piece that I think dates to C19 and could be of Greek origin. It is a typical piece in that sweets were served. Of course it could also have been imported from elsewhere and just have been made for local taste. What do you think about it? It has snapped pontil mark and  is not lead glass.
For those who read greek ( :) ) these are two articles about the greek glass industry: ;
Glass / Re: Any ideas, Pukeberg :-/
« Last post by rocco on April 17, 2014, 05:24:27 PM »
I would say Walther, Germany :)

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Glass Trinket Sets / Ilkley pattern 1233 Query
« Last post by Simba on April 17, 2014, 05:23:23 PM »
I just purchased a part trinket set in the Bagley Ilkley pattern but I have a powder bowl which has a handle on the lid and is much larger than the large bowl in the set. It doesn't appear in the Bagley Book   so could someone enlighten me please ?  :)
Glass / Any ideas, Pukeberg :-/
« Last post by ultimatecodfather on April 17, 2014, 04:58:16 PM »
Any ideas on this. I know ive seen it before
Glass / Re: Rozendaal? globe vase
« Last post by Lustrousstone on April 17, 2014, 04:22:54 PM »
Interesting! Thanks Jay
Glass Paperweights / Re: I D for a bit of fun
« Last post by Roger H on April 17, 2014, 04:09:54 PM »
Nick,thanks for the weight. I can get to 200 ish but haven't got a camera that will magnify and focus nearer to be able to expand and segment off the photo.
         Regards Roger.
Glass Paperweights / Re: I D for a bit of fun
« Last post by Roger H on April 17, 2014, 04:04:34 PM »
Hi Kev, I see you have yellow and white spiral cane base of a 3 inch diameter, mine is a 2.8 inch diameter.  They are both weights of the utmost professionalism aren't they.
    If you feel you have a couple of hours to spare have a count, I assume you are only going to count the setup canes not the individual canes or 2 days would be better.
       Regards Roger.
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