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Glass / Re: Orange Peacock trailed vase help please.
« Last post by brucebanner on Yesterday at 09:57:19 AM »
One of the eyes has been polished (ive only just noticed), perhaps it's an experiment or end of day piece of glass?.

Or someone has tried to repair it, take a chip out of the rim?
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I'm green with absolute envy!
your vase is a Johnolyth vase - stunning and beautiful.
This one was sold in 2005 at Christies
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/an-ernst-hantich-co-johnolyth-4606145-details.aspx?intObjectID=4606145

You don't come across them very often.
I believe designed by Karl John for Hantich & co Haida
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maybe this one will work
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Hi there, any help with this would be gratefully received the signature is driving me mad, is it a red herring? Thick glass, filled with bubbles, polished pontil, lots of age related base wear. It isn't painted, the pattern is actually in the glass!
About 6 inches tall x 8 inches wide.
Thanks for any help
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Glass / Re: Orange Peacock trailed vase help please.
« Last post by flying free on Yesterday at 09:15:59 AM »
ok, so an orange vase, not iridescent, with green peacock eye trails,  a polished pontil mark and also a cut and polished rim.

I'm a bit curious about the cut and polished rim being there together with the polished pontil mark.  Why would it have both?
Is this normal in say English pieces made to have a lid maybe?

I'm asking because I have a Webb Corbett Agate Flambe bowl that has a polished pontil mark and a cut and polished rim.  Despite me believing it should also have a lid, I still feel slightly odd about the cut and polished rim.  Because why would they do that?  It's not necessary. 
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Glass / Re: Crystal vase/object, identification needed if possible!
« Last post by brucebanner on Yesterday at 08:51:46 AM »
It looks like a glass Epernge, and that pattern is typical of modern Czech glass they love the pin wheel type design on the top of yours.

Here is a rose bowl ive just googled with something similar.

http://www.crystalmarket.com/rosebowl.htm
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Glass / Re: Crystal vase/object, identification needed if possible!
« Last post by Paul S. on Yesterday at 08:50:50 AM »
regret I can't help with attribution or even a use  -  it looks to be a very unusual overall shape.   
There are vases, without this nappy shaped foot, and then there are dished pieces without this flower stem upright, so it's quite a puzzle.        No doubt someone will now post and say it's a common shape :)
My opinion would be that it's a rather OTT stem vase of sorts, but that's an unsubstantiated opinion.

As to origin, my opinion would be either the States or eastern Europe  -  Czech or Bohemian.     
The notched arrises decoration is seen on ABP material (but occurs also on material from other countries), and the buzz motif was also a very popular ABP cut design (I think this is a buzz star as opposed to pinwheel).
In fact this faceted stem showing the notches and bands of three horizontal cut lines certainly occurred on American Brilliant Period glass, and combined with the buzz star and fan cut would suggest the States, but since I know nothing about that period, it's perhaps more tempting to suggest this is a much later European copy, produced c. mid C20.
Much glass from Eastern Europe - now perhaps more correctly called Czechoslovakia - copied the earlier States cutting motifs/designs. 

You don't mention wear, and despite this factor being inconclusive for dating, had this piece been one hundred years I would have expected a fair amount of underside wear  -  but if it were half that age then noticeably less I'd assume.
Water staining might also be more noticeable in an older piece.

Sorry this doesn't give the answer you want - let's hope one of the experts is able to help. :)

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Glass / Re: Orange Peacock trailed vase help please.
« Last post by brucebanner on Yesterday at 08:39:50 AM »
Hello M, it has a polished pontil mark and it's orange in colour not amber and it's my window sill creating the iridescent look. It's got some age as there are signs of use all over the glass and a good amount of wear to the base for such a small vase.

I've had good look on the internet and in the books i own and cannot find anything similar.
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 Frank, I'm afraid I disagree with your comment here

'From the data given by Anne it would appear that they added Royal to the glassworks name between 1925 and 1931. '



 In the London Gazette, dated 18 September, 1931,(source Anne's post - it's my underlining in the para quoted below) it specifically states
"STEVENS AND WILLIAMS Limited.
The Companies Act, 1929.
AT an Extraordinary General Meeting of the Members of the above named Company, duly convened, and held at The Brierley Hill Glass Works, Brierley Hill, in the county of Stafford, on the 11th day of September, 1931, the following Special Resolution was duly passed:
"That it is desirable to reconstruct the Company, and accordingly that the Company be wound up voluntarily; and that Mr. Thomas Henry Gough, Chartered Accountant, of Dudley, be and he is hereby appointed Liquidator for the purposes of such winding-up."
(105) H. S. WILLIAMS-THOMAS, Chairman."'


i.e. on 11 September 1931 the glass works was still called The Brierley Hill Glass Works.

and also

In this paragraph quoted from Anne's earlier post from L Angus Butterworth: British Table & Ornamental Glass, it says they added the word 'Royal' to their name of Brierley Crystal (as a brand name).  It has no source for that assertion and it has no date for the addition of the word 'Royal' to their brand name of Brierley Crystal, and it doesn't mention that they added the word Royal to their glass works name:

'According to L Angus Butterworth: British Table & Ornamental Glass, in the section on Stevens and Williams Ltd, the addition of Royal  to their name of Brierley Crystal (as a brand name) came about after the firm received the Royal Warrant to supply King George V with glassware.  LAB gives the date of the Royal Warrant as before 1925 when the Duke of York (later King George VI) visited the glassworks with his wife, and that was "shortly after this honour had been accorded."'

There's a lot of confusion around this paragraph.  The warrant was issued in 1919, the visit occurred in 1925, and there is no evidence I can find for the actual date of when the word Royal was added to their name of Brierley Crystal (as a brand name) and nothing mentioning the glassworks either.


Also, I think it is important for the correct company name to be used when describing items.


In summary I believe this is the chain of events and correct names for the company by date so far:



1740              - Brierley Hill Glass Works      - a glassworks founded in c1740
1846              - Stevens & Williams                   - Were a partnership formed who owned the glassworks
                                                                           called Brierley Hill Glass Works               
1903              - Stevens & Williams                  - We know this was still the company name at the point of 30th January 1903
                 

1903-1920    - Stevens & Williams/      - At some date between 30 January 1903 and 2nd January 1920 the Stevens & Williams company
             Stevens & Williams Ltd                  became Stevens & Williams Ltd
                                                                    - Date still to be determined   
                                       
1920-1930    - Stevens & Williams Ltd   - The company was called this between 2nd January 1920 and 1930 (Source London Gazette )
               
1931              - Stevens & Williams Ltd  - We know the company was called this on 11 September 1931 
                                                                On 11 September 1931 that company trading as Stevens & Williams Ltd was formally wound up
               
1931-1985    - Stevens & Williams Ltd   - The company was registered as this name between 18 September 1931 and 28 May 1985
                                                                        (note - this is not an error, the company was wound up and renamed as the same name)
                                                                 
1985-2000    - Royal Brierley Crystal Limited - Between 28 May 1985 and 11 Dec 2000 the company was renamed Royal Brierley Crystal
                                                              Limited
2000-2008    - Rbc Realisations Limited        - Between 11 Dec 2000 and 19 February 2008 the Company was renamed Rbc Realisations
                                                                          Limited
                       

Therefore:                     
- whether or not a product was made under a product range that Stevens & Williams had denoted as the range 'Royal Brierley Crystal' is irrelevant for the purposes of correctly identifying their wares from 1846 until 28th May 1985
as
- all products produced by Stevens and Williams from 1846 up until 28th May 1985 can legitimately be referred to as:

      'A Stevens & Williams (insert range name or just insert item name if range name not known)' .

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Despite having company papers for Moncrieff I have never been able to penetrate the ins and outs of names usage. On top of all the 'legal' names, companies also had operational 'names' that bear little relationship to anything obvious. From the data given by Anne it would appear that they added Royal to the glassworks name between 1925 and 1931. Which ties in with the general statements in books. For simplicity it is probably desirable to use S&W until the final closure. Likewise with Powell that are often referred to as Whitefriars since the late 1990s by collectors. There are endless naming confusions around for glass companies with the name of their glassworks, in some  books you even find the odd case where they are mentioned as entirely separate entities.
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