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Paul, I can assure you, I will not spend the rest of my life thinking (or even caring) which monarch was when or what number they had after their real or fictitious name.
I've already forgottten your correction and hadn't registered anything at all from the original info.  ;D
Although I have not yet returned to the things I said I was looking into, I thought the following might be of interest, regarding "Venetian Ball" (and paperweights in general):

The Glass Collector a Guide to Old English Glass, by Maciver Percival, New York, Dodd, Mead & Company 1919. I have a Second Edition copy, published by Herbert Jenkins Limited, London (no publication date). The text and image I refer to below are the same in both the New York and London editions.

Using the link above, search for "Venetian Ball" then click on the indicators at the lower edge of the display.  Or use the page navigation (point and click on the grey page edges) to locate pages 151 & 320. Page 151 is the start of the chapter titled "Curios".  The first reference to "Venetian Ball" is on page 152 but it is worth reading from page 151 to get some context in preparation for the section titled "Paper-Weights". Having looked at that section, check out page 320 and the associated image plate for Item 3.

And there we have it ... text on the "Venetian Ball" and an illustrated example to show how it was used in the late 18th / early 19th century.

Well, that was what at least one author told folk almost a hundred years ago! :)
Glass / Re: ID Request: Goblet - web design in white/blue lilac.
« Last post by chopin-liszt on May 24, 2016, 06:12:47 PM »
I've had experimental Woodland Birch jugs - three of them but I haven't got images and I sold them.
They were much more like Misha's beast and a lot less like the official range.
One was a pale pink and white, another a pale blue and white.(I can't remember the other, perhaps both pink and blue and white?)

It was an expensive (time consuming) range to make and got dropped quite quickly as it wasn't commercial enough.
British & Irish Glass / Re: Quite a puzzler !
« Last post by keith on May 24, 2016, 05:20:45 PM »
Not sure of the date m, whether early 80s or late 90s, I'll email Gwyneth Ashcroft as she did designs for them prior to 1986, it may be one of hers I'll let you know,  ;D ;D
Hi everyone, please could you help me to identify this vase
Mesures: 26 cms tall

Glass / Re: ID Request: Goblet - web design in white/blue lilac.
« Last post by glassobsessed on May 24, 2016, 05:17:19 PM »
Not Woodland, that is surface decoration, less regular and with 'twisted' sections - example below.

Bertil Vallien used a similar repeating effect in several designs such as:,5%20cm.%20Sig.%20Boda%20Vallien%2043321.%201.jpg

but it does not really look right for BV. It looks like the web or cage could be created by laying overlapping canes on the marver and picking them up with a gather, probably a technique from Murano.


Try searching with the term losanghe  (diamond).
British & Irish Glass / Re: Bagley Asymmetric Grantham Vase
« Last post by mhgcgolfclub on May 24, 2016, 05:03:21 PM »
Thanks Greg

Thanks for showing that very nice pair of vases. At least I know there are a few others out there.

Thanks Roy
Glass / Re: ID Request: Goblet - web design in white/blue lilac.
« Last post by misha on May 24, 2016, 04:48:00 PM »
Hi Sue,
Had an image search on that. I see what you mean, but different in that the webbing seems to have been applied to a clear bowl during initial forming and then cased in clear.  One can see through the 'web', best seen in top view image titled: UNK Goblet d.jpg

Found this using 'spiderweb' in search.

Perhaps a China-Murano made piece?  :-\

Is there a common 'glass' term for this type of design / pattern / decoration?

British & Irish Glass / Re: Quite a puzzler !
« Last post by Carolyn Preston on May 24, 2016, 03:48:29 PM »
Well done Anne
this arrangement of ovals and lopsided diamonds, plus the cog-wheel decoration is a fairly common feature on some pressed pieces from this Czech. factory.              You'd assume simply a vase but it seems to have been destined for a versatile life, and apart from a vase it was also a pedestal support for large bowl, and its third use is shown by the word CELERY on the  base  -  maybe trying to avoid purchase tax  -  believe there was a similar reason for using the word CELERY by some U.K. makers in the 1940 - 50 period.            Can't imagine that this would accommodate too many sticks of celery though.
You have to remember that when this is accompanied by the bowl, the cog-wheel base will be at the top, and in the catalogue picture presumably it's hidden by the base of the bowl - you certainly can't see the cog-wheel.

Height of this part is about 6" (c. 155 mm).

If anyone has the time, would appreciate confirmation please that this is indeed the lower portion of a two piece design showing on page 32 of the Sklo Union CD catalogue 'Libochovice Glass Export before 1958' - items Nos. 2178/79 (top right corner)  -  I couldn't see this on Pamela's  glasspavillon site.                 

Assuming the attribution is correct, then grateful if the Mods. will move to the correct part of the Board - thanks. :)
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