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Glass Paperweights / Re: Old English P/W which maker/era ?
« Last post by malcmat on September 24, 2016, 10:42:42 AM »
Thanks Alan, I had a good search for anything similar with a scramble cane area as in this one but  no luck.

Malcolm
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I'm searching Richardson online as that's what I'm interested in for the art glass (vases etc) - if I find anything else I'll add it.  That's unlikely of course but you never know if an article or book suddenly gets digitised.

m
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Hi m

Regarding Islington, Paul Hollister gives that quote (and one that specifies Bacchus as a paperweight maker) in his 1969 'Encyclopedia of Glass Paperweights'.  There is little doubt that these two companies were making paperweights in 1849 - and little doubt that the Islington canes look French because Rice Harris brought in French glassworkers as strike breakers for 18 months.  I am pretty sure that some of them made the canes and the Islington paperweights, probably based on experience of working at Baccarat.  What intrigues me is the quote from the Art-Journal (1848) that 'we have seen a large number (of paperweights)  of home manufacture...Mr Bacchus...has produced some that deserve special notice...'.  This can only be interpretted to mean that there are other manufacturers of paperweights that they do not name.  I do not believe Islington were producing in 1848...so who was?  The problem is that there are a dozen or more candidates in the Birmingham and Stourbridge area who were high quality glass makers using 'flint glass'.  These included Richardson, Walsh Walsh, Chance, Osler, Stevens & Williams, Webb, William Gammon and others, but I have seen no evidence to indicate that any did - or did not - make millefiori paperweights: some may well have done.

Alan
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British & Irish Glass / Re: A jolly good Royal Brierley day out !
« Last post by keith on September 24, 2016, 09:57:18 AM »
Will do, I'm a little worried about the orcs though !
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Glass / Re: Registered Designs and Design Lookup Requests
« Last post by agincourt17 on September 24, 2016, 09:25:05 AM »
Thank you, Paul. Your input from your Kew trips to TNA have taken the study of British glass design registrations to a whole new level.

Fred.
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Thank you, Anne.

Fred.
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Alan, yes I am well aware of the pernicious attempts by media to influence perceptions.  I read with a view of 'where is the author, and therefore the message, from', rather than taking anything at face value.

However, the one thing I was interested in is the claim that paperweights (and by the way the paragraph was written, the author appears to me to mean millefiori paperweights) were being made in England in 1849.

 I wasn't commenting on what happened to them after they were made, the market forces, the public's perception of them at the time v paperweights made in other countries, or how they were retailed in England, all of which appear to have been the gripe of the author. But the whole sentence is important as a context for the comment that they were being made in England.

I added it because I've read comments over the years but never seen the/a primary contemporary source for the comments so thought it was interesting.

To your list of reasons for  odd comments in the Art Journal, I do also wonder sometimes whether they describe items using phraseology we no longer use in that particular context, but instead for something else, which means we misunderstand what the author of that time was trying to convey? (Obviously not 'hundreds of thousands' of Bohemian paperweights).

Actually,  it is also in that same Art Journal volume on page 65 that they go on to say they have seen Islington Glass Works Birmingham compound Millefleur paperweights.

Many pages later there is a piece on Richardson Glass:
'The glass of Messrs. RICHARDSON of Stourbridge (the "Wordsley Works") which we have to consider next, is confessedly unsurpassed for brilliancy and purity by that of any manufacturer in the Kingdom; it is not too much to say that it may compete with the best produce of the Continent; certainly we saw nothing at the exhibition in Paris superior to the crystal produced at these works. 

From the collection at BIrmingham we select nine examples; our drawings convey no idea of the colour, and but little of the ornamentation, to which the articles have been subjected, either by the engraver or the cutter...'
  It also mentions that the Richardson items were the products of everyday production, not items specially made up for the exhibition.
m
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Glass Paperweights / Re: Old English P/W which maker/era ?
« Last post by tropdevin on September 24, 2016, 07:40:44 AM »
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Hi Malcolm.  I have had a couple with very similar canes, and concluded they were from one of the as yet unidentified factories.  I would think they were mid 19th century though.

Alan
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Hi m. We did discuss related matters in a thread in GMB in 2013.  There are lot of interesting - and puzzling coments in the Art Journal, and I have concluded it is a mix of facts, errors,  prejudice, and politicking.  One comment talks about 'hundreds of thousands' of Bohemian paperweights being imported: clearly a gross exageration.  So I am not sure quite how much can be taken at face vaue.

Alan
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Glass / Re: Barrel-shaped lidded pot or jar, RD 563868, 1910 precise registration details?
« Last post by Anne on September 23, 2016, 11:30:58 PM »

But what is possibly more relevant to your enquiry is an advert in the Pottery Gazette 1 May 1890 Page 38, which states De Grelle Houdret & Co (The Belgian Glass Co.)  http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/35734191/

I've picked up another wee snippet about The Belgian Glass Co. from the 1878 edition of Slater's (late Pigot & Co.'s) Royal national commercial directory and topography of Scotland

Quote
The Belgian Glass Co. (manufac-
  turers of plate, sbeet, and all
  kinds of plain, cut, pressed, and
  engraved flint glass) ; offices &■
  sbowrooms, 19 Basingball st,
  Lond-jn, S.C.-CIi. De Oreile &.
  Co. agents

It's clearly been OCR'd and not proof-read, so what it should say is:

The Belgian Glass Co. (manufacturers of plate, sheet, and all kinds of plain, cut, pressed, and engraved flint glass) ; offices & showrooms, 19 Basinghall st, London, E.C.- Ch. De Grelle &. Co. agents. So that explains the relationship between the two companies.  8)
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