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Title: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: jonchellycain on July 06, 2009, 09:31:04 AM
as promised here are some pictures of my Blue and White swirl pieces. Ive chatted with Mark Hill about these some time back and he was quite surprised as both pieces have the flame pontil mark mark to the base and it was previously believed all blue and white swirl just had the coachbolt pontil mark.
The first pictures are of the globe vase which has the flame mark and  early "handmade Isle of wight" sticker. The vase is 12.5cms in diameter, 9.5cms tall, rim 9cms in diameter opening 4.5cms in diameter. I was lucky enough to pick this up at a car boot sale for £5.00 a few years back. ;D

Its hard to see the detail from the pictures as the white is quite subtle but shows through more on the neck and rim. Unfortunitly its not signed. Blue and white swirl was one of the early experimantal colour ways, it has blue streaks on clear glass with opaque white
From what i know, there where only 3 shapes made in this colourway the globe, the charger and a 16.5cm diam dish (page 73 of Mark Hills Michael Harris book). Does anybody have any pics of the dish or own any other blue and white swirl, i would love to see it.
I will add some pics of the charger in a few moments

michelle
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: jonchellycain on July 06, 2009, 10:01:29 AM
Here are some of the charger, now im no photographer so i really cant do justice to this piece in the pictures. It really is beautiful in real life. It is 42cms in diameter and 6.5cms in height. I wasnt quite so lucky with this one in the sense that i paid £400 for this at a charity auction, but its well worth it, (i think it cost me more than my first car!!!). I am truely, madly deeply in love with this piece.. its my "if your house was on fire whats the one object you would grab" ;D
Again this has the flame pontil mark to the base, unfortunitly no signiature or stickers on this one though.
michelle
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 06, 2009, 10:35:00 AM
WoW - It's massive and gorgeous and massively gorgeous! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I far prefer this to the pink stuff (I'm not fond of pink, in fact, I really rather detest it, especially if it's pastel - lurid can be ok.) and to the Tortoiseshell - though it's a similar design - all spirally and swirly - now just I'm blethering in awe. :-[
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: jonchellycain on July 06, 2009, 10:48:03 AM
haha, thanks, im not to keen on the pink & blue swirl.. but i do have a piece that may change your mind, i showed it to ron quite some time back now.
I bought this piece at an antiques fair for £10, It is like the pink and blue swirl but it has the 1990's sticker on it. I cant find Rons email now but he thought it may have been a designer/blower at the studio recreating the pink and blue swirl.
The colours are much deeper in this vase, i find the original pinks a little insipid and watery.
If your ever out my way your more than welcome to come and stroke my charger ;D

michelle
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 06, 2009, 11:11:02 AM
That is an interesting variation! You are most welcome to come and fondle my glass if you're ever up my way too. :thup: (Dundee - pm for address)

I have two pieces of pink and blueswirl - a small cylinder, and a small globe. An interesting observation of these pieces is that in SOME of them, the pink goes green in sunlight (mostly when the light is coming through it.) I don't know if this is a proper dichroic effect, or simply a normal effect of absorption of wavelengths of light.
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: jonchellycain on July 06, 2009, 11:17:25 AM
did you say you had some seaward  pieces? i dont have any myself, infact i dont remember having ever seen a piece in real life. I am always searching for the more unusual pieces, often ive been very lucky and found things at car boots sales at bargain prices.
 I would love to see some pics of your collection do you have them online anywhere?
michelle
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 06, 2009, 11:28:26 AM
 :spls:

I was sure I have 6 bits of Seaward - but can only find 5 atm. Now I'm worried!

Sorry, no, I don't have an online albumy thing - I'm a bit vague about photography and technostuff.

I've always found Seaward particularly difficult to photograph, but might give it another go soon  (heehee, time to make you green - Seaward signed, attenuated bottle.... a particularly glorious one)

Are you a member of the IoWSG forum? I've put quite a few photobucket images up there, of early unusual Mdina.
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: jonchellycain on July 06, 2009, 11:34:44 AM
oh wow :o , harris signed i presume.., you will have to try and get a picture on here now you cant just say it and not show me  ;D.
I have a bit of a struggle getting pictures on here to the best way ive found is to lower the MP on the camera, take photo from a distance (well a few feet) and then crop/cut it down as small as i can. I wouldnt know where to start having a website album thing, i must ask my other half if he could sort something out for me as id love to have an album of all the glass i sell and of my own collection for future reference. I may have to do one in a folder or something if i cant work out how to do it on line
michelle
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: jonchellycain on July 06, 2009, 11:53:39 AM
no im not on the forum, can you send me a link for it would love to have a look

michelle
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on July 06, 2009, 12:30:18 PM
Website:-

http://www.isleofwightstudioglass.co.uk/

Forum:- (or just scroll down to the link on the menu on the left hand side)

http://www.isleofwightstudioglass.co.uk/SMF/index.php

I tend to try to use the close-up and extra close-up bit of the camera, but have problems then with focus - sometimes, if it's a big piece, or I've got a few pieces to fit in to the picture it's too big to fit in. Hence lack of focus in the image of the 4 Chinese bowls.

Major problem is actually setting the silly thing - it's a bit hit and miss. Seaward looks best using flash, but I try to keep that switched off - it changes colours too much.
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: jonevark on August 01, 2009, 09:51:05 PM
Hi,

I noticed your post and thought you might like to see this, I know this is a paperweight but I havent seen any other paperweights with the same colours, it has a pedestal base and is signed michael harris Isle of Wight and matches the colours of your vase, i payed the pricely sum of £12.00 for it about a year ago at a car boot sale
I agree that these colours are more vibrant and interesting.

Kind Regards

Jo
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: orange-alert.co.uk on June 08, 2011, 12:54:58 PM
I know this is a very old post but thought some of you may be interested. I have a low stoppered bottle (shape 11 I think from memory) in the blue and white colour way with coachbolt pontil mark. That's 1 more shape to chalk up that this range was made in.
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: Oxbridge Fairs on June 08, 2011, 01:32:06 PM
We have a 23in/58.5 cm attenuated bottle in blue and white.

Christina.
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: orange-alert.co.uk on June 08, 2011, 01:40:28 PM
Now that is just showing off! See you on Sunday
Steve
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: glassobsessed on June 08, 2011, 02:48:08 PM
Ok, my turn now: https://picasaweb.google.com/Johnmj100/EarlyIsleOfWightStudioGlass#5484549746739951970

 :smg:

As it happens, both signed.

Still looking for tall Seaward and short Aurene bottles. ;D

John

Are you sure about those measurements Christina? That is huge.
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: Oxbridge Fairs on June 08, 2011, 03:50:38 PM
Yes, I'm sure.

Christina.
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: johnphilip on June 08, 2011, 05:53:31 PM
To those going to Kensington glassfair on Sunday it is a very short distance to the V&A and their wonderful glass collection , why not visit both as i am , you know it makes sense.  :hi: jp    Christina does know her measurements you try to pass her off with a single G&T . ;)
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: glassobsessed on June 08, 2011, 06:20:09 PM
Mmm, not sure a few shorts haven't already been consumed JP. ;)

Talk is cheap, what we want is photos.... ;D

John
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: flying free on June 08, 2011, 08:20:12 PM
oooh JP you've just reminded me, somewhere on one of my evening's trawling for id's I came across someone's flickr set of pictures of their hols in London - and on there were loads of pics of V&A glass.  I had a wonderful time, viewing their holiday pics for the glass section  ;D
Must try and find again.
m
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: orange-alert.co.uk on June 10, 2011, 03:31:06 PM
Lovely vases John. Thanks for the image.

Steve
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: BRADBURY7308 on June 16, 2011, 11:32:02 PM
SMALL DISH 6.75" WIDE
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: glassobsessed on June 17, 2011, 07:36:35 AM
Nice, that is a 'Verdala ashtray', originally designed by Michael Harris while at Mdina for a commission from the Verdala Hotel in Rabat but later used as a standard production shape at Mdina and IoW.
If yours has a coachbolt pontil mark then 1973, with a flame pontil mark early 74.

John
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: Oxbridge Fairs on October 29, 2011, 09:59:33 PM
OK, it's been a long time coming, I know, but here's a pic of the attenuated bottle standing next to a Whitefriars 5" coffin vase.
Christina.
(http://www.cambridgeglassfair.com/Attenuated-Bottle-with-WF.jpg)
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: Anne on October 30, 2011, 02:49:33 AM
 :mrgreen:  Wow! That is some bottle Christina!
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: suzygpr on October 30, 2011, 08:15:10 AM
 I know what John's reaction to that will be - :thud: 

Simply stunning, thank you for the pic Christina.

Suzy xxx
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: glassobsessed on October 30, 2011, 03:21:43 PM
What a well drawn out neck, remarkable, lovely.
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: jonchellycain on October 30, 2011, 05:48:07 PM
OMG that's stunning !!!!! The best place for that would b right next to my charger >:D
Michelle
Title: Re: IOW rare Blue and White swirl charger and globe vase
Post by: Oxbridge Fairs on November 01, 2011, 12:32:44 PM
Could not agree more, Michelle.

Christina.