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Title: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: adam20 on June 09, 2011, 11:14:31 AM
Clear glass hooped vase with facted base - to front moulding of Queens head and 'Elizabeth II' Coronation 1953' - 7" high with moulded star cutting to base - anyone idea of maker and information on such pieces.

Thanks Adam
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 09, 2011, 11:24:02 AM
Bagley I believe. The same mould was used for the Festival of Britain. Should also be marked celery.
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=150
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=151

At least it's my understanding from the latest Bagley book that these are theirs.
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: adam20 on June 09, 2011, 07:09:14 PM
Looks like a match Christine - but mine has not got celery on the back.

Adam
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: nigel benson on June 10, 2011, 01:23:10 PM
Christine,

Any reason for Bagley??

Nigel
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 10, 2011, 03:34:25 PM
Quote
At least it's my understanding from the latest Bagley book that these are theirs.

I'll look again when I get home
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 10, 2011, 06:21:33 PM
Bagley Glass 3rd revised edition (Bowey, Parsons & Parson) shows the Festival of Britain Vase on p80. I think I've also seen it uncommeratised.
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: johnphilip on June 10, 2011, 07:18:38 PM
I have the Festival of Britain one in front of me now and it has celery marked about one cm down from the top, it also has  four letters on the base near the edge hard to read but my guess is REGD but no numbers that i can see .  I dont usually do pressed glass cant think where or when i got it . jp
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: nigel benson on June 11, 2011, 09:54:12 AM

Ok, so I'm going to take this step by step..........does it say who retailed them, or were they on general release? By now you'll realise I have a particular interest ;)

Nigel
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: adam20 on June 11, 2011, 10:59:04 AM
So is this Bagley - the whole mould is the smae as Festival of Britian - no celery to back though
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 11, 2011, 12:45:32 PM
You'll need to speak to Angela; there is little information beyond a picture of the FoB celery and a mention of several items for the 1953 Coronation, including a flint plate and a butter pat. The FoB celery and the coronation vase appear to be from the same basic mould IMHO.
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: Anne on June 11, 2011, 01:42:27 PM
I've dropped Angela a note asking her if she can look at this topic.
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: johnphilip on June 11, 2011, 03:41:22 PM
Hi Nigel i will bring mine to Kensington in the morning  .
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: nigel benson on June 11, 2011, 06:28:12 PM

No need John, I've got one in the kitchen cabinet......but thanks.

Anyone looked at a little book written by a very nice chap called Nigel Benson  ;) ::) and published by Millers?? See page 50.

Just wondered if we've found another correction for that little book??? Or.......... ;D

Nigel
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 11, 2011, 07:21:43 PM
Oh that knobberly book. :kissy: I think the "few remain" is not desperately accurate. I wonder where Angela got her info? It's new for this edition.
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: nigel benson on June 11, 2011, 07:41:49 PM
A loose, or reletive term, used to encourage collectors - part of the brief for the book and a way of getting in what might otherwise have been ignored. Considering how many were produced I note it ain't a subject that been on here that often ;)

Obviously Angela is likely to have some new info, it will be interesting to see what she comes up with. Mine was from contemporary sources.

Nigel
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: Bernard C on June 12, 2011, 11:32:49 AM
Nigel — When I first read your book, that piece on p50 elicited a huge "WOW! — BRILLIANT!".   I had already thought that the most likely attribution of this rather mundane vase was a Continental glassworks via a factor like Lang, and hadn't considered the possibility of a British maker.   Only two criticisms:

Had you asked me before I read this topic, I would have replied that a Bagley attribution was impossible.   Why on earth would a modern sophisticated and successful pressed glass department of a large bottle works produce such an old-fashioned design?   I will be interested to see Angela's evidence.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 10, 2011, 09:12:29 PM
Did we ever hear from Angela?

Hajdamach says in 20th Century British Glass p 268 that the Festival of Britain vase was marketed by importer Jack L. Barnett as part of it Barnook range. I assume that importers did not necessarily sell only imported goods.
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: David E on October 15, 2012, 08:40:27 PM
Just bumping this topic in the hope that someone can actually confirm the ID of this celery vase. Did Bagley produce Festival of Britain items? Stuck in Holland without my books ATM!
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: Bernard C on October 15, 2012, 09:25:25 PM
...   Did Bagley produce Festival of Britain items?   ...

David Yes, butter pat 3016, same mould as the Royal Visit pair.

Bernard C.  8)
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: Anne on October 16, 2012, 05:53:19 PM
Oh why didn't I see this yesterday? I could've asked Angela whilst she was here. She's gone off to see the Bagleys tonight.  I'll try and contact her.
Title: Re: Coronation 1953 Vase
Post by: Bernard C on November 17, 2012, 05:36:12 PM
David Yes, butter pat 3016, same mould as the Royal Visit pair.   ...

Bought a Bagley Festival of Britain 3016 butter pat today.   An interpretation of my edition of Bowey & Parsons is that it also exists in an ashtray version with cigarette rests around the rim.

Bernard C.  8)