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Title: Dartington FT1 tankard - non commemorative
Post by: glassobsessed on September 16, 2011, 10:16:12 AM
I can't remember seeing one of these tankards before which did not have a commemorative seal but is that because I have not been paying attention? :D

John
Title: Re: Dartington FT1 tankard - non commemorative
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 16, 2011, 11:08:47 AM
I thought I have one, but now I'm not sure the base is quite the same.
My base is a single, round-profiled projection, while yours looks as if there is a part-straight profile. The body of mine also looks a bit wider than yours in comparison...... pic later.
Title: Re: Dartington FT1 tankard - non commemorative
Post by: chriscooper on September 16, 2011, 02:03:13 PM
If it helps John a few commemorative ones here to compare shape the handles look a little higher placed?

https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/DartingtonCommemaritiveTankards#5536802893761972098

Chris :sun:
Title: Re: Dartington FT1 tankard - non commemorative
Post by: glassobsessed on September 16, 2011, 02:40:26 PM
The handles on that group of yours seem to vary a bit Chris too, 'tis to be expected on hand made items like these.

Sue that thick base is definitely not round in cross section, it flairs out below the handle and then runs vertical.
Must be next to impossible to tip these over accidentally....I feel a 'road test' may be necessary. :cheers:

John
Title: Re: Dartington FT1 tankard - non commemorative
Post by: Nemmie on September 16, 2011, 02:48:18 PM
I have seen one without a commemorative seal. Several times because it has been sitting in one of my local charity shops waiting for someone to take it home.

Title: Re: Dartington FT1 tankard - non commemorative
Post by: glassobsessed on September 16, 2011, 02:55:04 PM
That's interesting Nemmie, they were probably made as standard production without any commemorative seal then.

Any more examples out there?

John
Title: Re: Dartington FT1 tankard - non commemorative
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 17, 2011, 04:27:40 PM
Looks all wrong for an FT1 to me. The base is too narrow, the top curves in, and the handle is too low
Title: Re: Dartington FT1 tankard - non commemorative
Post by: glassobsessed on September 17, 2011, 06:56:29 PM
The top does not curve in Christine, I can only presume that is an optical illusion.
Don't understand the base too narrow bit at all. Dimensions if anyone has any to compare with are: diameter at top 68mm, diameter at base 100mm, height 120mm.
Have a look at the handles on the group in Chris's gallery Christine, each one is different from the next.

John
Title: Re: Dartington FT1 tankard - non commemorative
Post by: chriscooper on September 18, 2011, 03:17:58 PM
Hi John, have a boxed Orient Express one height 120mm across rim 68mm and base 100mm
A boxed  Caxton one with no date on and not numbered and the box says FT164 ale tankard not sure without looking it up if it's not the original box? again same dimensions.

Chris
Title: Re: Dartington FT1 tankard - non commemorative
Post by: glassobsessed on September 18, 2011, 04:03:31 PM
Thanks Chris, so the sizes are spot on. The FT164 tankards are a completely different shape so assume your tankard and box do not belong but would still like to see a photo of a 164 plus box... (it's the nerd in me).

By chance I handled a commemorative FT1 today and the only difference was that commemorative plaque.

John

Title: Re: Dartington FT1 tankard - non commemorative
Post by: chriscooper on September 19, 2011, 03:18:41 PM
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qpJVjkEaCAg/TndWZFZUehI/AAAAAAAASB8/UjAX_anGU28/s640/SDC10013.JPG

Box but no tankard some more photos here.... https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/DartingtonFT164AleTankard

Chris

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_3N_FG0RUPQ/TndWiQjX-3I/AAAAAAAASFA/GJLB1cG2WL4/s640/SDC10015.JPG

Found this boxed set whilst  searching that must be the nerd in me too  John FT 356 cannot resist owt that's boxed and labelled .. more photos  https://picasaweb.google.com/107067405711297858658/DartingtonFT356SugarCream?authkey=Gv1sRgCKrXxvrqssm7zAE
Title: Re: Dartington FT1 tankard - non commemorative
Post by: glassobsessed on September 20, 2011, 08:53:52 AM
Thanks Chris. Some of the boxes were designed by Kim Thrower, they look very 70s and 'Habitat' to my eye, they seem to have changed to the plainer and more graphic style at some point.

A couple of examples:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Johnmj100/DartingtonGlass#5548039961471319346
https://picasaweb.google.com/Johnmj100/DartingtonGlass#5548039954816393938

John