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Title: By Chance......David
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 24, 2012, 01:02:11 PM
 :hi:

Found this just yesterday.  Glass oblong shallow bowl.  Has the label on it, so I know it is Chance Glass.  Any additional info about it (year, or rarity, or what it is really called).  Maybe it is a candy Dish?  I was not finding much for this type of *shape.

~ 13.5 inches long
~ 5.25 inches wide
~ Yellow Roses
~ Gold / Black oval Foil label (intact) for Chance glass

This is only my second piece here, but I recall seeing lots growing up.  Not sure where it is all hiding here (??)

  Thanks for you help!   :thup:
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: keith on February 24, 2012, 01:31:18 PM
Hello Rose,according to the book,1972,Yellow Rose pattern,you probably figured that one out ::),not seen to often here as it was made for export,not rare I'm afraid ;D ;D
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 24, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
Hello Rose,according to the book,1972,Yellow Rose pattern,you probably figured that one out ::),not seen to often here as it was made for export,not rare I'm afraid ;D ;D

Thanks Keith.

So you do not see the shape overthere -- or the Color/pattern?  Was this made ONLY for Export? totally?

 :ghug:
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 24, 2012, 02:31:27 PM
I'm afraid it's a common shape, and a fairly common pattern. I certainly see enough of it in charity shops!

It's a sandwich plate.  :thup:
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: keith on February 24, 2012, 06:30:03 PM
If I remember right the book said Fiesta glass did it again for the local market in 1981,don't think I've seen this pattern before,not round here ;D ;D
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 24, 2012, 07:16:31 PM
Are you sure you aren't confusing it with Mermaid Rose Sue? That has fewer petals and no white background.
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 24, 2012, 11:05:30 PM
Are you sure you aren't confusing it with Mermaid Rose Sue? That has fewer petals and no white background.

I have googled those names now -- and now I see that there is a difference in the flowers.  Yeah, I see what you mean one has fewer petals on it.  So this is a Sandwich plate? 

I now have a total of 2 pieces of Chance Glass  :clap:
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 25, 2012, 10:57:53 AM
Now I don't know! It's yellow roses. One bunch of yellow roses looks exactly like the next bunch of yellow roses.

But I certainly have seen these around - it's the white background that makes it look different to me.

One is an example, two is a mistake, three is a collection Rose. You need another bit!
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 25, 2012, 02:23:44 PM
Maybe they had to export them across the border  :24:
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 26, 2012, 05:44:28 PM

One is an example, two is a mistake, three is a collection Rose. You need another bit!

Oh - oh ...... almost to the collection point.   LOL
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: David E on February 28, 2012, 09:55:51 AM
Sorry for the lateness in replying, but I have been finalising Patricia's new book, so haven't had a 'chance' to look at the forum as often.

The white background indicates a later Chance production, perhaps c.1978, but then it was invariably used, as Keith surmised, for Fiesta Glass (so post-1981). I guess this dates between 1978 and 1981.
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: keith on February 28, 2012, 07:17:05 PM
look what I just found after mooching through the stock room at a local charity shop with the manageress ;D
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: Anne on February 28, 2012, 07:27:53 PM
Are you allowed to mooch with the manageress, Keith???  :o
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: keith on February 28, 2012, 07:52:50 PM
Does mooch mean something other than I thought :o
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: antiquerose123 on February 28, 2012, 08:02:57 PM
Thanks David E for your reply, and the dating of it  :ghug:

Keith finds all the good stuff.....He's a great Shopper!!!  :thup: 
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: keith on February 28, 2012, 09:22:40 PM
...and a better moocher :o :o :pb:
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: antiquerose123 on May 08, 2012, 08:39:30 PM
Hi there:

FOUND another Chance glass with intact label as this one posted...but this one has the RED ROSES on it.  Thought I would just post here since now I have 2 of these same items, same shape, size.....but different flowers and flower colors.

Thanks
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: keith on May 08, 2012, 11:25:29 PM
Nice find Rose,not seen that colour before it looks orange or is that the flash ;D ;D you now have a collection as Sue said ;D ;D
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: David E on May 09, 2012, 08:09:53 AM
This design is Sovereign Rose. The red/orange colouring was always a problem for Chance. This was because the transfers were intended for ceramics, which had a different firing temperature and where the red colour would always come out truer.

My book mentions the problems of them getting true colours, in particular red. Don't have a copy to hand ATM, bur perhaps Keith can help out?
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: keith on May 09, 2012, 06:20:08 PM
Can't find anything to add to Davids comment apart from it being released in 1972,I'll have another look,had a long day ::) :o :o
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: antiquerose123 on May 09, 2012, 06:37:35 PM
Thanks both David and Keith  :-* :-*  Kiss for each !!

Yup, one more and I have a collection here......lol......and I am glad they both have their labels on them!!

Sovereign Rose is the name.  Kinda neat as my username is ROSE and I grew up near a town/village called Sovereign....so I will not forget the name of this item!!

 ;D
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: keith on May 09, 2012, 07:12:46 PM
Found it,due to Chances using transfers sourced from other companies there were occasional problems with red in the design fading during the firing process, ;D
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: antiquerose123 on May 11, 2012, 09:58:08 PM
Thanks so much for the info.....and one more, and IT IS a collection!!       LOL
Title: Re: By Chance......David
Post by: David E on May 12, 2012, 07:01:44 AM
Found it,due to Chances using transfers sourced from other companies there were occasional problems with red in the design fading during the firing process, ;D
Thanks Keith - p.83: Making Fiestaware/Transfers