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Title: Victorian Liqueur Set
Post by: ginfor on April 30, 2006, 03:47:59 AM
I can guess late 19th century English or Bohemian, but can anybody come up with something more specific for this liqueur (I'm guessing) set?
http://home.earthlink.net/~fdposton/dec.set.jpg
The decanter has a nicely polished pontil:
http://home.earthlink.net/~fdposton/dec.pontl.jpg
The coloring and wear on the set suggest a late 19th century origin to me. I'm always open to suggestions if you can point to something more likely.

Of the other things I asked about, the only one I got was the Murano/Barbini tree, cheap.  

Forrest
Title: Decanter set
Post by: ginfor on May 01, 2006, 12:43:10 AM
General thickness and appearance are more 19th century, certainly not in line with most midcentury work. There are some small random bubbles, though not many.  It's good quality work, and I'd lean toward someone like Stevens and Williams if I could confirm they used this color combo.

Forrest
Title: Decanter set
Post by: ginfor on May 01, 2006, 12:54:21 AM
I just put things under a blacklight.  The decanter body glows a bit green while the handle/stopper show somewhat orange.  I think that's manganese.  On the cup, the handle responded, but the body did not, which suggests they are not an original match.  Oh well, the go well together now.

Forrest
Title: Victorian Liqueur Set
Post by: atruheart on May 01, 2006, 03:48:17 AM
Not victorian....20th century most likely

Theresa
Title: Victorian Decanter
Post by: ginfor on May 01, 2006, 05:04:07 AM
Is your response based on the cups or the decanter? As I indicated in the previous message, the cups and decanter are probably not originally a set.  Cups are probably later but hard to pin down.  As for the decanter, everything I can check about it says latter part of the 19th century. If 20th century then the very first part.

What's the 20th century response based on?  What part of the century?  

Forrest
Title: Victorian Liqueur Set
Post by: atruheart on May 01, 2006, 06:20:08 AM
I was going simply by form and color....?? Im in the USA maybe quite different than from your parts. My personal opinion is that it does look like a set, not a marriage?? And it looks very much like glass we find here that is Mid Century modern. Do not find colors like that typical of the 19th century. So You could say jmho I would search makers like Blenko, Pilgrim, Rainbow glass  :D

Theresa
Title: Victorian Liqueur Set
Post by: atruheart on May 01, 2006, 06:35:13 AM
I am searching so if you wouldn't mind giving the measurments in inches?  :oops: or will take me hours to figure out...lol Do you know how much liquid they hold? the glasses and the decanter?

Theresa
Title: Victorian set
Post by: ginfor on May 01, 2006, 06:37:42 AM
I'm in the US, currently Indiana with a lot of time in Southeast Ohio and born in West Virginia.  I'm fairly familiar with the companies you name, and this isn't anywhere like what they did.

This combination, often in darker shades, was used by several companies in the late 19th century.  You may be thinking of some of the frilly items that get called Victorian, which was a poor choice of terms on my part since there really is no such style as Victorian.

Now if I was going to attribute glass like this to a WV company (the location of the companies you mentioned), I would much sooner go with Northwood or Hobbs, but it would still be circa 1885-1900.  However, I don't think either of those companies used this color combination.

Forrest
Title: Victorian Liqueur Set
Post by: atruheart on May 01, 2006, 11:06:57 AM
Hmmmm....well I just did a quick search and only companys with that color combo. were the ones I mentioned.

What 1800's glass company were you thinking??? I would certainly like to hear/know/learn.. :P

Theresa
Title: Victorian Liqueur Set
Post by: Frank on May 01, 2006, 02:35:08 PM
Is the stopper blown or solid, also it bullseye, flattened or round?

A larger picture would be helpful.
Title: Victorian Liqueur Set
Post by: pamela on May 01, 2006, 07:04:16 PM
blue and amber - Vall√©rysthal :?:  :?: