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Info on a pink paperweight... ID = Perthshire Paperweights PP1 (pics gone)
Frank:
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I did :twisted:
PP stands for Pink Paperweights or Postman Pat, or is it Perspiring People.
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Anonymous:
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I did :twisted:
PP stands for Pink Paperweights or Postman Pat, or is it Perspiring People.
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Or in my case a Plateasmic Pillock more than likely.
Gareth
KevinH:
Ah, but ... strictly speaking ... I suppose we ought always to define what we mean when we quote the initials PP in connection with weights ... because there was more than one "maker" with those initials - but it was not (usually) Perthshire Paperweights that used them :!:
Phoenix Paperweights (which only existed for a short time, working out of Willie Manson's studio, after the closure of Perthshire Paperweights) used a PP cane. Fortunately we can tell the difference because at Perthshire Paperweights, on the few occasions that PP was used it was always (I believe) in conjuction with a date in a combined cane, whereas for Phoenix Paperweights it was just the PP letters.
So asking what PP stands for is actually a good question. The truth can sometimes seem as elusive as that wonderful creature, the Pink Panther.
Frank:
I think there is one aspec of paperweight identification not covered... individual cane recognition.
As far as I know, all paperweight makers make their own canes - probably at company level rather than individual.
This means that you can match weights by comparing canes to known examples.
Of course like the whole field of glass ID it has limitations. An example using Monart:
Some of the earliest Monart glass was decorated with millefiori or twist canes and also ink/scent bottles sometimes had stoppers with millefiori (see Monart catalogues - Millefiori canes page.
Here we have a unique resource that indicates these canes were ONLY used by the Ysart family. This can be a great resource for identifying Monart paperweights. However, canes were made in very long pieces and subsequently cut up many would last for a LONG time. So you could find 'Monart' canes in Vasart and Paul Ysart paperweights. Some of these canes from as early as the 1920's could in theory also be found in Strathearn, Perthshire Paperweights, Fake PY and fake J weights as well as those of independant paperweight makers who had access to the canes.
A CPC member told me that on one visit to PP, Stuart Drysdale had shown her 3 boxes full of Vasart canes.
So you can see the potentials for error in just using cane ID. But when you are able to match multiple canes you are more likely to find a good attribution. But other aspects must also be consistent.
Max:
--- Quote --- However, canes were made in very long pieces and subsequently cut up many would last for a LONG time. So you could find 'Monart' canes in Vasart and Paul Ysart paperweights.
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How interesting! Thanks Frank.
The more I hear, the more I'm beginning to think that paperweights are perhaps the most confusing and difficult glass subject. Would anyone say that's true, or is it just me, looking from the outside?
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