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RAY:
yep just like the one on kevs cpc site

Leni:

--- Quote from: "RAY" ---yep just like the one on kevs cpc site
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Ooooh, you cheat!   :twisted:  :lol:

Leni

KevinH:
Well done on the Walsh candlestick, Ray  :)  Was that by memory or by searching the site for clues?

Anyone who may have guessed Whitefriars was more or less on the right lines, at least according to earlier ideas  - up until quite recently, most dealers and collectors would have said this sort of concentric weight was Whitefriars 19th century. And there are still some folk who don't go along with the latest research information.

When I bought it, I did so because it looked unusual, but very well made. I had no idea about the actual attribution or date, though. I simply believed the auction catalogue listing which stated "... 19th century Whitefriars paperweight with applied 18th century taperstick ..."  :!:  I fairly quickly changed my mind about the 18th C taperstick idea but for some time still thought it might be Whitefriars.

Leni:

--- Quote from: "KevH" ---Anyone who may have guessed Whitefriars was more or less on the right lines
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I guessed Whitefriars, using my Jargstorf book, but then when Kevin said 'the other one begining with W' I knew he had to mean Walsh, because Jargstorf refers to Walsh on the pages about Whitefriars!   :D

Then he said it was like the one on the PCC site, and I went looking.  It is the same one, isn't it?   :wink:  

Did you guess first Ray, or did you look?  :twisted:  Come on, own up!     :wink:  :lol:

Leni

Leni:

--- Quote from: "KevH" ---we need good close-ups of the "rose" canes you have mentioned. They could be the biggest clue of all and are one of the most widely researched cane types in recent years.
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Going back to what Kevin said all that time ago :roll:  :lol: ....

I haven't managed to get better pictures, but I have just acquired a new magnifier - 20x magnification!  :shock:  boy, are my eyes watering! - so I will attempt to describe what I have seen.  

I concentrated on the rose canes, because of Kevin's comments above.  They are incredibly tiny in detail - oh, and I'm almost certain now that they are *NOT* Clichy!   :roll:

So that people remember what I'm talking about, I'll post a copy of the picture here again.  Not too large this time   :oops:  http://tinypic.com/4qsiol

The pink rose cane in the middle of the complex cane at the very centre of the weight is made up of a deep pink core and three concentric circle of white cased in pink, all encircled by no less than nine deep blue six point stars in white encased in pink!  It is impossible to see them with the naked eye!  They do appear to have sharp points though, Ray.

These star canes are then encircled by the rose petal elements, which consist of flattened white canes encased in pink.  There are five in the first ring and then in each succeeding ring - there are three or four rings in all, distortion making the number a little unclear in places - the spaces are filled by shifting the circle round a little and adding a couple of canes as needed.  Sorry, it's just too small to be more precise.   :roll:  

This whole rose is then encased in a circle of very pale clear yellow, also not visible with the naked eye!

The three white roses, which, alternating with concentric green and white rings, encircle the centre of the blue and white complex cane, are even smaller.  They are also more difficult to see being at the edge of the weight and affected by distortion caused by the re-polishing which Kevin spotted.  

They seem to consist of a central blue six point star set in white, encirled by five six point stars - too small to see the colour, could be either blue or green - which are either set in pink or in white encased in pink.  

The white 'petals' appear to be standard white canes flattened as in the pink rose, and encircle the core in the same pattern of five canes shifting round and in-filled in each ring as needed.  The whole rose is then encased in clear pink.  

And I think I need to go and lie down now!  My head aches and I feel more than a little dizzy!  :shock:  :roll:  

I do hope I haven't bored everyone senseless - well, everyone except us paperweight cane fanatics  :lol:  :roll:  :oops:  :wink:

Leni

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