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KevinH:
Leni - thanks for the excellent description of the Rose canes. I will see what I can find that might tie in with these. Most of the detailed images of Rose canes is in PCA Bulletin articles, rather than the usual books. Fortunately (for me, that is) I managed to secure a set of PCA Bulletins going back to the 60s so I can spend some time browsing.
Just one other question, though ... if you can see the detail well enough. When you say that the final outer parts are a "yellow circle" or "encased in clear pink", do you mean it is like a tube, or like a thin colour overlay (flashing). Or is it actually a series of separate coloured bits - as with the spaced outer green bits of the Clichy (etc.) roses?
And while I am here, I'll now say that I have not found any examples in the books of exactly the pattern as in this weight - with an alternating set of 3 diametrically opposed canes. But in the PCC 1999 Exhib photos there is this one which is broadly similar and also has multi-row complex canes including variations of 6-point stars. (It has large roses, one which appears to have a full outer green coating, but the others show that it is actually separate elements of green - which is what I was trying to describe above in my question):
http://www.kevh.clara.net/exhib99/Antique/Bohemian/BOH013.htm
And this one gets close to the "diametrically opposed" pattern but doesn't quite make it:
http://www.kevh.clara.net/exhib99/Antique/Bohemian/BOH014.htm
And then there's this one, which is quite untidy, but does use the same pattern:
http://www.kevh.clara.net/exhib99/Antique/Bohemian/BOH015.htm
All of those three Exhib weights were included in the Bohemian section and as yet, I am not aware of them being reclassified as anything else (some others could be St Mandé, which as Leni pointed out earlier, is one of the less well known French makers - and which I will also say is still generating new evidence for discussions).
Anyway, it is those Exhib weights, along with the "interesting" features of lower quality setting but with some very complex canes, that make me think Leni's weight fits into the same group. So I tend to agree with Leni's original thoughts on it being Bohemian.
But I still want to see if we can find anything more on those Rose canes. They might turn out to be yet more examples of previously unrecognised variations, which is always fascinating for those who thrive on such minute details :D
Leni:
--- Quote from: "KevH" ---Just one other question, though ... if you can see the detail well enough. When you say that the final outer parts are a "yellow circle" or "encased in clear pink", do you mean it is like a tube, or like a thin colour overlay (flashing). Or is it actually a series of separate coloured bits - as with the spaced outer green bits of the Clichy (etc.) roses?
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The yellow and the pink, where I have described it as 'encasing', is actually a thin clear layer which you correctly describe as 'flashing'. Of course I know what flashing is and should have used it in this context, but I'm still not quite up with the correct expressions. Sorry :oops: :roll:
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http://www.kevh.clara.net/exhib99/Antique/Bohemian/BOH013.htm
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I had looked at this one, and it was one of the reasons I thought 'Bohemian' from the start. There are some similarities - particularly the green stars. Also, the shade of green - it's not the same as that which I have seen in clichy weights, being rather more 'bluey-green' than what I think of as 'Clichy green'. I am not sure if this is one of the criteria used to categorise weights,, so perhaps I am on the wrong track here, but I do tend to look at the colour when trying to identify canes :?
--- Quote ---Anyway, it is those Exhib weights, along with the "interesting" features of lower quality setting but with some very complex canes, that make me think Leni's weight fits into the same group. So I tend to agree with Leni's original thoughts on it being Bohemian.
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Yay! :D Kevin agrees with me! :D I feel quite proud! :roll: :oops:
--- Quote ---But I still want to see if we can find anything more on those Rose canes. They might turn out to be yet more examples of previously unrecognised variations, which is always fascinating for those who thrive on such minute details :D
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Many thanks for your continued interest Kevin :D Thank goodness I'm not alone! I was beginning to think I was in danger of becoming a paperweight 'nerd'! :oops: :lol: :wink:
Leni
RAY:
--- Quote from: "KevH" ---Well done on the Walsh candlestick, Ray :) Was that by memory or by searching the site for clues?
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from memory Kev, looking at your site to much :D
my poor old mum had her antique shop broken into this morning, a pro job and got away with quite a bit of stuff, but what a suprise the cctv cameras in the town were on the blink :roll:
anyway so Bohemian the weight is then :D
Kev when you were up here the 1st time you said , you made a little game about naming the canes at one of your meetings, should do that on here and see who gets top marks :D and you as the judge
Leni:
--- Quote from: "RAY" ---
--- Quote from: "KevH" ---Well done on the Walsh candlestick, Ray :) Was that by memory or by searching the site for clues?
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from memory Kev, looking at your site to much :D
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I've been looking at the site a lot too, but I was concentrating on the old French and Bohemian weights :lol: I must broaden my horizons! :roll:
--- Quote ---my poor old mum had her antique shop broken into this morning, a pro job and got away with quite a bit of stuff, but what a suprise the cctv cameras in the town were on the blink :roll:
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Gosh! Sorry to hear that, Ray :( Do give our sympathy to your mum! Is there anything we should be particularly looking out for, in case it appears on ebay? :evil:
--- Quote ---Kev when you were up here the 1st time you said , you made a little game about naming the canes at one of your meetings, should do that on here and see who gets top marks :D and you as the judge
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Oooh yes, please! :D But wait 'til my new books arrive! :lol: :wink:
Leni
RAY:
Leni it was mostly gold and silver, alot was one off egyptian piece's of gold, all in all about 20-25k worth was snatched, they had it all worked out they had ripped all the wires out from a telephone exchange up the road so the alarm wouldnt go off
Leni send me an email
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