Hi, it may be the angle of your photograph but I'd say the first one isn't the same as the 9463. Yours looks much longer, leaner and the glass looks much thinner - it would be helpful to see a photograph from straight ahead (the same as the WF catalogue) to be able to compare directly and also know the height of your vase in inches. Don't know about the second one, it's not a shape I'm familiar with but WF did make a fair few different shaped teardrop type vases - it's possible but without handling it and looking at features like the rim and base finish or knowing the size it's very hard to tell.