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Author Topic: Cluthra Vase by Steuben?  (Read 1208 times)

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Offline RAY

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Cluthra Vase by Steuben?
« on: August 24, 2007, 08:41:07 PM »
got this one on a wim, i'm not 100% that it's Steuben cluthra, it measures only 2.25" high and 5" across at the widest point, it's not marked on the base nor does it have a ground pontil maybe it was to small , it has a fire finished pontil, the rim is ground and polished

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Re: Cluthra Vase by Steuben?
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2007, 09:47:12 AM »
See example of Cluthra here http://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/NotYsart.htm

I don't buy the too small for grinding idea, nor does a cut rim sound right. How thick is the glass, does it ring....

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Re: Cluthra Vase by Steuben?
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2007, 09:57:07 AM »
it ring's like a bell and it's about 4-5mm thick
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Re: Cluthra Vase by Steuben?
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2007, 11:44:07 AM »
Hello Ray,

I believe this is the base of a Powell powder box, although my experince of these is that the rim is cut and not fire finished as it would be blown into a mould. The colouring and shape appear correct for Powell as well as the ringing that you mention.

I have checked for an available reference and found a line drawing in The Museum of London publication "Whitefriars Glass, James Powell & Sons of London", Evans, Ross and Werner, the 1940 Catalogue, page 309, plate 529 (centre). The Pattern Numer is M1 - "M" for mould blown.

Years ago I had a base in powder blue version, which I sold. Eventually I discovered the relationship to Powell through my interest in their Cloudy range, which was confirmed when I obtained a copy of the 1938 catalogue - then came the Exhibitions and books. My goodness a wealth of information available nowadays ;)

Cheers, Nigel

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