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Sowerby Slag Glass Salts
Glen:
We have a Sowerby boat (salt) in their #1921 suite (date of introduction 1886) that is "sort-of" malachite, but also semi-transparent. It's teal blue with white swirls, but it's not opaque. Photos here:
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Sowerby_1921_Boat.html
Glen
Sid:
Hello:
Here is an example with the vertical sides with the registration mark:
http://www.stylendesign.co.uk/classic/G202.html
mhgcgolfclub:
Thanks for all your replies and Sid for the link to the Sowerby pattern 1215, I agree they are similar but also totally different, mine on the 1216 have tapered feet / pillars narrower to the base than the top, the sides are smooth and not ribbed like the 1215, while the base is also different the 1216 with a concaved base and the 1215 with petal style base.
Bernard you said you thought that they were an important find, is there any way you think they should be properly photographed and a record of them for future reference, as when I do decide to sell them any records of them may be lost forever
roy
Sid:
Hello:
I think that Sowerby's 1949 salt is a match for the example with the registry mark not the 1215 salt. Perhaps the vertical ribbing was an essential element of the No. 87777 design registration. But again until somebody goes and actually gets a copy of the registration documents, we are speculating. A comprehensive digitization of the registrations with online access similar to what the US Patent Office has done would be an awesome project that would advance collective glass knowledge immensely.
Bernard C:
--- Quote from: Sid ---... Perhaps the vertical ribbing was an essential element of the No. 87777 design registration. ...
--- End quote ---
Sid — It was. Thompson clearly distinguishes between text taken from the registration application and observations made from the accompanying illustration, enclosing the latter in round brackets or parentheses ().
Her description of registration 87777 reads:-
Pattern of salt (hexagonal with mitres)
Thompson is also quite specific about the two types of decoration, consistently using "mitres" for the zigzag profile and "gadroons" for a series of semicircles.
So the 1887 87777 registration is of no relevance whatsoever to Roy and his salts. I wonder why Simon Cottle made this error. I suggest those with a copy of his book pencil in a correction on page 106.
It is hardly surprising that I never found a 1215 or 1216 carrying this registration number!
Glen — There are two published photographs of 1215 salts in my reference books. One, in colourless flint, is in Thompson, p.55. The other, in a malachite colour combination not dissimilar to your boat, is in Cottle, p.58, which also indicates to me an early date for the boat. If you still have your pencil handy, note that the captions of the two illustrations on this page have been exchanged.
Roy — Thanks for your interest in making the information on these important Sowerby salts available in some way. Your existing photographs are fine, but could easily be improved by taking a set from a variety of angles with a white background in daylight in a light tent to eliminate distractions, a duplicate set with a black background, and another set with a grey background. My own experience is that the more the better, as you can never tell which photographs are best going to show the surface nature of the cloud effect. Obviously keep to the finest quality setting on your camera (maximum file size) so that enlargement is not compromised.
I would offer to help at Cambridge, but my light tent is too big and unwieldy, and there are too many distractions. I like it nice and quiet when taking photographs, and I have to be in the right mood!
Do you own a light tent — or, if not, do you know someone near you who does and would be willing to help?
I would be willing to help produce a web page if OK with you.
Bernard C. 8)
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