Topic: UNUSUAL ART GLASS GOBLETS HELP NEEDED.

[johnphilip]

Yes 100%  the same there are also other names probably had several different craftsmen, one i have seen several times is Cuneo or something like that,i bet Gordiola will have a lot of visitors this year, it is a fantastic place and not too far from Porto Pollensa now thats Paradise.
On ebay now 150234033496 a nice piece of Gordiola posing as Venetian. I dont buy from USA had too many attempted scams.

[johnphilip]

 see ebay item 170225430335 Moser - Royo i emailed the lady and very politely told her of my findings
 i have just received a very stern reply telling me i have got it wrong she has now added to the listing
 a quote from Hartmann Lexicon that Royo and Cire are Moser,well you cant win them all can you.
 ps i have noticed the Spanish are buying Royo now
         SORRY IVO our findings

[krsilber]

It's a shame the people think Royo pieces will be worth a lot less if they aren't by Moser.  It's like the quality doesn't matter as much as the name, and that's not right.  Some Royo pieces are wonderful - the glass is creative and well-crafted, the enamel is nicely executed, the pieces reflect a unique Spanish glass tradition.  And there are plenty of Moser pieces that aren't particularly high quality or noteworthy.

Every once in a while I write to a seller telling them they've made a wrong attribution.  I think about half the time I get a reasonably polite note back.  Many people don't want to be told they've got things wrong - go figure.  I've almost stopped posting in the ebay Pottery Glass and Porcelain forum, I get so tired of people jumping to conclusions and holding on to them in the face of all evidence to the contrary (or no evidence).  Sellers become blinded by the mighty dollar.

There's one ebay seller in particular that annoys me to no end by "guaranteeing" his/her wrong attributions.

[johnphilip]

Yes the vase this lady is selling is quite stunning,i would like it myself.

[Cathy B]

Having had a few pieces of Royo, they're just not the same quality as Moser. That said, they're quite attractive pieces, to me anyway

JP and Ivo  :hiclp: :hiclp: :hiclp: :hiclp: :hiclp: :hiclp: Well done!

[krsilber]

I said that wrong...I didn't mean to suggest that Royo is comparable to Moser as a whole.  Just that not every Moser piece is stunning, and there are bits of Royo I've seen that I'd take over some Moser.  Partly because I don't have any, and want some!  One of those two-headed decanters with the chicken stoppers, f'rinstance.

The quality of Royo enamel work seems to vary widely.

[johnphilip]

Three items on ebay international at the moment with a little more info in the text , one is even signed made in Spain and an importers name . 310135898066 - 290258410589 - 230236955318 .jp :thup: ps one of the sellers says the piece is signed Jose Cire Royo but doesnt show the signature .

[Ivo]

Ufff - it is SO hard to get it right isn't it.

[Galle]

Thanks, Ivo... I sent them an email also - but hadn't heard back yet. I have one Royo piece in my collection (very inexpensive) - now I can update the description in the gallery! Woot!

As an update - I just sold my (correctly listed) Royo cabinet vase to a buyer... in Spain.

[Frank]

Did you ask them for more information Warren?