Topic: Badge Weights

[alexander]

Hi, you can email them to me if you like and i'll resize and add them.

[Skybird]

Alexander Thank You !!!!  Would email if I could, but cant see envelope beside your name either, am I being stupid and missing the obvious?
Chris

[alexander]

Strange - I can see an envolope next to my profile and next to yours but not next to KevH's.

You can used sergente at hotmail dot com replace at & dot with @ and .

[Skybird]

Alexander Thanks, theyre on their way!!
Chris

[Anne]

To allow members to contact you by email you need to allow them to see your email address - this is how: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,19746.0.html

[KevinH]

Doh !!!  Thought my email "envelope" was visible to all - but no.
It is now.

[alexander]

Me too KevH 

Chris's images

[Skybird]

Alexander Thanks so much for putting them on here for me Chris

[KevinH]

Well ... I may not be able to say whether Chris's weight was made by Paul Ysart, but I can say that it is the first one with "Cameron" that I have seen ... apart from one that I have!

Mine, however, has a SULPHIDE of the badge, not an actual metal one. And that was one of the reasons why I bought it. I never did find out anything much about it, although I can confirm that the sulphide material is not like any others that I have seen which were by Paul Ysart. He apparently used a form of pipe clay ceramic, which has a particular look when enclosed in the glass and appears as a matte white, not like the "yellowish cast" as in my weight [although some of that colouring is down to the lighting etc. used for the photo!].

My weight fluoresces much the same (under both longwave and shortwave UV) as early Ysart weights, but that is also true of other makers from the 19th and early 20th centuries. The UV result alone cannot be used to define a maker.

The size of my weight is 91mm diameter and 62mm height (approx 3 5/8 x 2 3/8 inch). There is a rippled area to the top of the dome, resulting from the working. The base is "lumpy" and there is a protruding pontil scar giving the weight a good wobble when set down!

The size and overall features of my example led my thinking away from Paul Ysart as the maker. Also, making allowance for the magnification of the dome, the actual sulphide is roughly circular and 55mm (2 1/8 inch) diameter, which might be rather large for a cap badge. Googling finds a few refernces to The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders, and its early names, but so far as I have searched it is only Wikipedia that shows the cap badge - which is the same as what Chris and I have in our weights.

Top view
Profile view (note the bump in the base)
Base view
Closer view of section of base Note the undulations, overall "stippled" appearance and the unfinished cracking off

I am keeping an open mind about the maker(s) of "badge weights", but I would be interested to know of any others that are sulphides rather than the actual badge.