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KevinH:
Hi Nadine,

Leni suggested that I might drop by and say, "It's obviously a <whatever>". Thanks for the confidence vote, Leni, but I'm just as unsure as everyone else. I have emailed somebody who may know. More news soon perhaps.

In the meantime, I agree that the base is unusual and this makes the Id process a bit more difficult because if it were one of the "big three" French (Clichy, St Louis or Baccarat), we'd expect regular base features. I also agree that the weight is in its original shape because the wear to the surface is consistent with many, many years of handling.

If it had been repolished at some time, this would not normally have affected the base as the underside would not be cleaned up, unless there was severe damge to the lowest edge. But this does not seem to fit with the shape of the remaining well-polished central area.

Just for the record, my original thoughts were:
1) Bohemian
2) Well, maybe St Louis
3) I wonder if the white and blue canes could be St Mande

Leni:

--- Quote from: "KevH" ---Just for the record, my original thoughts were:
1) Bohemian
2) Well, maybe St Louis
3) I wonder if the white and blue canes could be St Mande
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 :shock:  :shock:  :shock: I'm so proud!  :shock:  :oops:  :roll:  

I don't care *what* it turns out to be now! (Not true, I do care really  :wink: )  I am just so pleased with myself because my thoughts were the same as the great 'KevH'  :shock:  :oops: :roll:  :lol:  

Seriously, I do wonder *very much* about the possibility of St Mande, now Kevin has mentioned it  :?

I just haven't seen enough examples, and the colours are still confusing me, but there is *something* similar to my little weight which Sibylle Jargstorf (and several PCC members) identified as St Mande.  It's something about the quality of glass  :?  And, apart from the strange base, the profile looks similar - as is the position of the motif, if it definitely hasn't been re-ground!  If I could just hold it .....   :shock:

Hopefully we'll have an answer soon - or at least, someone else's views!  :lol:  :roll:    

Leni

Nadine:
Sorry for getting back so late, but my 2 childs got high temperature the last 2 days…


Hi KevH,
Thanks for your answer and also many thanks for your affords to email someone who might know more of my new paperweight.


Leni,
Thanks for your post, too. I didn´t know that it can be a problem for some users, when I send big pictures, I´ll try to post smaller images in the future.

Hmm, St. Mande ? Probably KevH will be right.
My Friend Ronny was at the PCC-Meeting in Cambridge, when Sibylle Jargstorf was the speaker, and he also took a look at your St. Mande Paperweight. He says, that your one was smaller, but somewhat on my weight also reminds him on your one.

At the Moment it seems it probably will be a early St.Louis or a St. Mande with an unknown Base.  Today I´ve seen two other Bohemian pieces, but they look similar to the one I´ve posted above.

Yes, its really fun to get the maker of this weight.
If Ronny will went to the PCC-Meeting in September, I´ll give him the weight, so you can hold it in your hands :D

Many greetings from the cold and rainy germany.

Nadine

Leni:

--- Quote from: "Nadine" ---My Friend Ronny was at the PCC-Meeting in Cambridge, when Sibylle Jargstorf was the speaker, and he also took a look at your St. Mande Paperweight. He says, that your one was smaller, but somewhat on my weight also reminds him on your one.
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Aha!  :D  

--- Quote ---If Ronny will went to the PCC-Meeting in September, I´ll give him the weight, so you can hold it in your hands :D
--- End quote ---

Nadine, that would be fantastic!  Thank you very much!  I do hope Ronny will be able to come to the meeting!  

I think we will all benefit from seeing this weight, as it must help to broaden our knowledge of the rarer examples  :shock:  :D  

BTW, I hope your children are now recovering from their illnesses.

Leni

KevinH:
Hi everyone,

This weight has not been forgotten. One of the PCC folk who knows a lot  more about antique weights than I do has said it's not St Louis but may be St Mande, although more thought and investigation is needed.

I have asked a few more of the PCC people for their thoughts.

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