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Anonymous:
Thanks for your fast answers, Leni & Gareth

On Bob Hall´s Homepage are some weights from the Josephinen Glassworks, in which some canes are look similar to the ones in this weight.  But this kind of Base I never see before on Bohemian Paperweights. Also one other of my Bohemian weights has more a little yellow shadow in it.
In the Book from George N.  Kulles (Identifying Antique Glass Paperweights, The Less Familiar) in the chapter about the Questionable Early Clichy, there are also some canes wich looks a little bit like the ones in this piece.

Last, I have an early St. Louis weight, which canes a nearly the same, like the green ones in the outer ring of my new Paperweight. Probably they where made from Domenico Bussolin, who sold his canes to french and bohemian Companys, like Sybille Jargstdorf told in her book.
But, like Gareth told, the canes with the bundle of Stars look similar to the ones, wich Baccarat used in there early weights.  


Here are some better photos, which I took today. You can see now better which color the glass had, altough, when the light cames from the side there is a light grey shadow in it.

http://web888.can13.de/webbrowser/weight2/index.html

Looking forward to hear the Opinion from other experts :-)

Many greetings from Germany

Nadine

Leni:
Hi again Nadine,

I have also been reading my Jargstorf  :lol: although I haven't got the Kulles  :(

Don't forget that Jargstorf also says a lot of people copied Bussolin canes, as well as using some he may have sold or given them.  Also, I would have said the canes in your weight are more simple, being of fairly basic complexity and made up almost entirely of six-point star canes, with only the green outer ones (and possibly the dark blue ones? I can't quite see) being set in pastry-mould shapes.  Am I right?

Gareth, your post made me go back and look at Baccarat again, and I can see what you mean!  I'm now totally confused!  :shock:

Nadine, can you post a picture of the weight in profile, so we can see the exact position of the motif in the dome?  And are you able to tell if the dome has been ground down to remove scratches or bruises in the past, and if so, are you able to tell roughly by how much?  

Also, something about the almost browny-red colour is ringing bells with me, but I'm not sure exactly what it means yet ....  :?

Leni

Anonymous:
Hi Nadine

Nothing to get you going better than a "whodunnit"..... not only that but its raining buckets outside. :roll:  :wink:
I have isolated one of the canes which seems quite distinctive and I'll see if I can locate it anywhere else. The problem with looking at all of them is that my myopic brain becomes more scrambled than the weight.
Hopefully will be back later
http://tinypic.com/a12681.jpg

regards


gareth


Morgan48

Nadine:
Thanks again, Leni,

here are some new photos:

http://web888.can13.de/webbrowser/weight3/index.html

In my oppionin the weight is not repolished yet, as there is some heavy wear on the base and also many scratches on the surface.

I think the canes with the blue stars and the green ones  aren´t made in Pastry-Mold Shapes, but the Canes in the second ring (counting from the center-cane) are definitely Pastry-Mold Shapes, with red, opaque Glass on it.

A friend of mine, who visited me 10 minutes ago, mentioned to see the green canes in some scrambled weights from clichy, but I don´t know if he is right.

Like you, I´m also totally confused. :?

Nadine

Nadine:
Thank you also Gareth,

your picture is perfect to see all the details on the canes, hopefully you or some from the others will know or find this canes in another paperweight and can help us :D

Nadine

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