Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. > France
amberina - ID = Legras
Patricia:
Where the vase is concerned, it's definitely French.
Within our bulb vase club we have all the Vilmorin catalogues dating back to 1860 and so we can follow exactly when and how this vase was offered, first enamelled, then amberina, then plain with cotes venetiennes (yes Frank, here we go again), etc. till 1931.
Which factory made it, a bulb catalogue never mentions but as the enamelled ones are offered by Legras specialists on the big French fairs and when you study the flower enamelling on their other vases, there is no doubt who made it. So it's likely they continued with the amberina and plain ones as well.
Vilmorin offered 48 different models of hyacinth vases between 1860 and 1940 which gives us a lot of study material. And when you find one with a Baccarat sticker on it as we did last year, the whole club is up in arms! All I can say is that one bulbvase collector out there is going te be very happy to add Ivo's unusual vase to his collection.
My glass knowledge might be very limited (but with Ivo living around the corner, that's alright) but I do know my hyacinth vases.
Patricia
Lustrousstone:
Interesting that this form is a bulb vase, I assumed that is was just a vase at first.
Frank:
Seems to be a very broad distinction for spread top vases... plus of course the 2 finger test as Patricia once mentioned. Caithness versions.
Patricia:
So did we Chiristine, so did we. But once it shows up in a garden catalogue between 10 other bulb vases which head reads Bulb Vases, it's fate is sealed forever. The French (and other countries as well) have more debatable ones in our (Dutch) opinion. Imagine the discussions on our club meetings when the bulb growers get involved as well.....
That leads straight to your Scottish vases Frank, if you read the page well it says posy vases and that's exactly what they are. A bulb would fall through and in my opinion they should call them bulbous vases (as in shaped like a bulb but not necessarily meant for bulbs).
But there even Ivo is still learning! And as he now has the page of this so often quoted catalogue may be he can somehow get it here on display.
Patricia
Ivo:
pièce de gâteau!
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