Topic: Old English with etched mark

[Derek]

Hi Frank

From the picture of the weight it doesn't look as if the "Made in England" was part of any other marking but a discrete etching - so given that it was time(money) consuming to add it, this would point to a date for the weight somewhere between 1921 and 1933/4

Best regards

Derek

[tropdevin]

Hi Derek

I don't think the mark on the base points to that date range necessarily.  The piece may well have come via Canada - where there seems to have been a long running requirement to mark all imported Whitefriars pieces (see earlier comments in this thread).  Some of the canes in my weight match ones found in a couple of Whitefriars EIIR 1953 weights - though the canes could have hung around on the shelf for some time, I accept.

Alan

[Layna]

white friars canes are still being used today by a glassblower called ray annenberg he worked at the factory up untill it closed in 1980

[tropdevin]

Hi Layna

Here is a Ray Annenberg weight I own!



Alan

[Derek]

Hi all

I think we have all been put off the scent by the talk of the McKinley tariff act as that was a US act NOT a Canadian one !

Given that Canada was and remains a member of the Commonwealth I would be surprised if UK glass product was shipped to the US and then re-expored to Canada. It would surely have been exported direct.

There is little enough information available about the US Mc Kinley tariff Act but I can find nothing about similar import trade restriction acts in Canada.

By the early 1950's Whitefriars weights were generally very tidy - the etched one referred to here is far from tidy so I agree with Alan that if its a Whitefriars then it is no later than 1950/2.  Latest date if the weight is a Walsh Walsh is the same as they closed in 1951.

Best regards

Derek

[tropdevin]

The sequence of events that I had imagined was that the weight was exported to Canada as a new item in the early 1950s (thus requiring a Made in England mark in line with Layna's first comment), and subsequently found its way to the USA (from where it is now being sold).

Alan

[Layna]

hi Alan i also own a ray annenberg weight just cant put a picture on yet was given to me pat hogan well we done a  swap as i had a vase he liked (pat hogan is the grandson of james hogan who worked at whitefriars in 30/40s) i think they are really nice well made weights i collect mainly strathearn and vasart.