Topic: Information on the British 8th Army, please.

[Bernard C]

...   I am not sure what you mean about the link to Glass Gallery thumbnail being legitimate?   ...

Anne says in her guide to GlassGallery here to use the URL displayed below the GlassGallery image, in this case http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-10345.   She goes on to explain that you must not use the dynamic URL shown at the top of the page, as it could change.   There is no mention of direct links to the images, and as I did not know whether these were fixed (legitimate link) or dynamic (illegitimate link), I have been avoiding them.

However, as you were at Anne's, and she has posted in this topic, she would have protested if your direct link had been dynamic, so I conclude that it is legitimate to link directly to GlassGallery images, and that their URLs are not dynamic.   Useful.

Back on Topic:

Thanks for the dimensions of the letters.   What is the overall diameter of the ashtray?

Bernard C. 

[Della]

The diameter of the astray is 115mm, Bernard.
With regard to the link, I did use the url under the picture and also the url to the thumbnail:

Della
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[Frank]

I don't there is any 'legitimacy' relating to which link you use, but as each user sets the sort sequence to their own preference using the dynamic link gives you the image that is in position x from the start of the display sequence. i.e. if Della sorts by date and I sort by title, I will not see the image intended. Whereas the fixed link (or absolute) is the record number within the database. In most cases displaying a thumbnail linked to the original site where the full size image is located would not infringe most copyright conditions regardless of whose image it is.

[Anne]

Bernard, Della's method of linking is fine. It works as the thumbnail is linked to the absolute url for the big image here: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-10345

In most cases displaying a thumbnail linked to the original site where the full size image is located would not infringe most copyright conditions regardless of whose image it is.

Frank I'm not at all sure this is correct, as to display a thumbnail you are using the original copyright image.

[RAY]

something i know a bit about, in 1945 the 8th Army was in Italy, the Egypt push ended in 1943, there was 13 units that went through the 8th army, been though all of my books and can't seem to find any relevance date corresponding to the date on the ashtray , but the date could be a US date so it would be 7th June 1945 and it could relate to the 8th US army, but you have to think that WW2 in Europe ended On 8 May 1945, that's why i think it could be something to do with the US, as the war in the Far East was still going on until 15th August 1945 and Japan formally surrenders on 2nd September 1945

[Sklounion]

Hi,
Ray, is the US 8th Army possible, given that the unit only took to combat duties on the 10th of June 1944. The period of time they were on active service before acting as part of the forces occupying Japan was little over 14 months.
I think the significance of the date may be that it is the date of the announcement to the troops of the disbandment of the British 8th Army. I would not know where to confirm this, but the official disbandment took place in September 1945.
Regards,
Marcus

[RAY]

the US 8th army was activated on 10th Jan 1944, and don't forget there was an 8th army air force could be them as well

[Della]

I can only come to the conclusion, wrongly, or rightly that the newspaper has missed out a 0, or the mould maker has added one too many.  :huh:

Thanks to Anne, this is the information I have. I have not had a reply to the email I sent through the link that Marcus kindly provided.

No army in this war, and probably ever before, has advanced so far in so short a time and fought as many battles, every one of which was a victory, from Al Alamein to Austria – 3,000 miles in 30 months

The immortal march of the Eighth Army from the gates of Cairo along the North African shores to Tunisia, through Sicily and through Italy

Hmmmm.......... where is the scratching your head smilie when you want one?

[RAY]

i think the Times Digital archive is a little wrong :spls:

[Carolyn Preston]

You might want to try the National Archives or the War Museum for more information.

Carolyn