Topic: Dartington, Frank Thrower?? Or Ravenhead Flair Lotus, or Lasisepat?

[Lustrousstone]

They're aren't identical; so perhaps the question is which came first.

[rosieposie]

I remember it well.....in fact I still have the link recorded in my glass collector info. 
So who made them???
Tell you what, I will let you know more if I win them OK? :thup:

[Leni]

On page 350 of  20th Century British Glass, plate 736, Charles Hajdamach has a series of flower bowls attributed to Dartington, including this one of mine which long ago was identified on this board as being by Lasisepat.



I have another which is similar and clearly made by the same company.
 


Now I am totally confused!  Frank Thrower / Dartington or Lasisepat? 

I'm watching this thread with great interest! 

[Lustrousstone]

That's a bad caption in the book, your top bowl is definitely neither Dartington or Nazeing. Robbo found a picture of a labelled one. Another error by Charles methinks. The Dartington in that plate are the Midnight bowl, the tallish narrow tealight holder and the large shallow bowl. The blue ones and the one below the midnight one are Nazeing. The other is Lasisepat.

[flying free]

It will be interesting to see the differences between the two sets then - I hope you win them Rosie.
I wonder now if I have a Lasisepat pair or a Ravenhead pair (small ones) if they are different, and where does that leave the big ones then as in the 20th Century British Glass book, page 222, both are pictured and attributed to Ravenhead?
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[rosieposie]

Well. I have won them, :hiclp: and they come in a Ravenhead box, :clap: so as soon as they arrive, I will compare the other 6 that I have to see if I can spot the difference.....this is starting to sound like one of those magazine competitions!! 
Perhaps I will photograph one of each, and let you all have a go at 'spotting the difference'.


Leni says he has two that are clearly made by the same company....interesting observation, but then if you look at the Nuutajarvi 'Pioni' bowls you could be mistaken for thinking they were the same maker or even Dartington.....so obviously the era they were all made in contributes to the similarities of those bowls. 
Mine are much plainer, no fancy flowers on these. The bowls I am talking about are the 'pronged' ones, which have a big brother often called the cactus bowl.....not the ones you have pictured on this page.

I'll post a picture when they arrive, because if I remember rightly, one of you had one with a label for Lasisepat on it. 
Trouble is, as we have discussed before, labels can be transferred from piece to piece, and even engraving names can be copied.....hey ho glass collecting, who would do it except us addicts??

[flying free]

Hi Rosie, to avoid confusion (for me and anyone reading the thread in the future), I posted a link to Robbo's small cactus bowls further up on this link.  Robbo's have a Lasisepat label on them in that link.  I thought the ones you have bought in a Ravenhead box look the same as those and that was perhaps what was going to be compared?
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[rosieposie]

That's great, Tanks for that,'cos it was all getting a bit mixed up, I agree!!
See you all on the other link when these bowls arrive.

[Anne]

I have a reference picture of one with a Lasisepat label on it as well.

[rosieposie]

Ooooooooo! Anne,  Please can you show it for us to see....it might help with the 'spot the difference' competition!!