Topic: Dartington, Frank Thrower?? Or Ravenhead Flair Lotus, or Lasisepat?

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I've emailed the seller to ask if there is any id on the box as to where the vase was made.
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The seller has very kindly replied.  The seller says there is no question of identity, this one says on the box Made in England   The  Ravenhead Company Ltd Pyrene House Sunbury.
Curioser and curiouser.  I guess that doesn't exactly mean Ravenhead made it although I assume they did, but it definitely means it was Made in England.
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Gosh, we didn't live far from there,  it was Chubb Security and Fire Extinguishers when I remembered seeing it.  
I wonder if it was just used for Company Addresses?? I always thought they were in Lancashire??  My box of Ravenhead Flair vases....same box, but the shorter version of the 'cactus vase' says,  the Ravenhead Company Ltd. St Helen's England. 
The thick plottens!! 
What happened to Lasisepat, Mantsala Sweden?

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sorry Rosie, no time to look at the moment, however px I know has posted a detailed information on Lasisepat Mantsala on another thread which I will find and link to this one later.
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Hello m,  I didn't mean it like that,  I meant I thought we had got all this wrapped up that the 'cactus vases' were DEFINATELY made in Finland  (I think I said Sweden, but that was an error!! Sorry) , by Lasisepat Glassworks in Mantsala??  
Now it looks as though they are Ravenhead Glass, from St Helens. Lancs.  It somehow doesn't sound so romantic now, and I've got dozens of them!!!!!!  :help:

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http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,7042.msg62049.html#msg62049
small labelled one from Robbo, labelled Lasisepat.  I'm pretty sure that label can't have just been stuck on  can it?  who would relabel something with what is quite an obscure glass company by comparison to the big known ones.
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Oh m, you are clever,  :clap: that is the thread I have been looking for for days!!  :thud:

I have taken some pictures of my bowls and I think we should ask the mods to amalgamate these threads, or maybe I will post my bowls on that thread and add the eBay listing info as well......it looks as though they were Ravenhead all the time, and you know I don't trust labels.....never had....did you see my last reply to the IOW polar bear thread?

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And what about this one......... :usd:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280647278750

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Rosie, I think that label is genuine on the link I gave.  I'll try and find some further evidence again to link Lasisepat and these vases and bowls.  I think they must have been produced by both companies.  Or produced under license here maybe.
With reference the small bowl you have linked to on ebay, it is being sold in Washington USA.  Yes glass travels, but a Ravenhead vase turning up in Washington?  I think it is more likely to be a Lasisepat export than a Ravenhead one....but stranger things have happened.
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Yes, m, I am quite sure Ravenhead did not export them  in Finland either! Like in the thread on Designlasi's page (which is linked somewhere here) someone says these cactus type bowl are found all over here. I have ref pictures with labels.

There are now many designs/sizes discussed.
Cactus: lowest more like a star shaped and you could call them bowls, then a middle size with distinctively upwards protruding points of the kind there are in the highest, which is definitely not a votive but a vase ( Ravenhead box)

The other discussed models are two:
the upper of the messages with 2 pictures in this thread is more like a Flower and it is definitely sold here in Finland all over with LasiSepät sticker and in different colours.

Then the other: the one with a hay (or tree) pattern, which has been found with molded Italy, Made in Denmark-boxes and HUMPPILA sticker (not LasiSepät)  In this pattern I have ref pictures in different models, larger bowls and plates too.