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Glassyone:
Ha gottcha,
I assert this with conviction based on not a lot except trying hard!

http://tinypic.com/b3tvu9.jpg
It has a blown foot and flat ground top.

Whereas this one has a clear solid foot and rounded top.
http://tinypic.com/b3tvgk.jpg

Any teaching much appreciated.
Ruth

paradisetrader:
OOOh I like it (#1) !
But not a clue ...which is maybe why I like it ...partly
What color is it inside ? White ? Yellow ?
Shape says 40s to me but color & decor style says 60's or later ...curious !

#2
Do you feel there's a relationship between these two ...same maker ?
Did you buy them together ?
My instant reaction for this one was Carlo Moretti but this is more complex than his ...I think ...I will check my books later.

The don't look Bohemian to me ...more likely Italian or American / Australian Studio.  Canberra build up a repuation as a centre of exellence for Australian Studio glass but I don't know dates...will check with someone and ask her to look in.

Both are most likely mold blown after the color work was done. The different treatment of the rims may or may not be significant.

Glassyone:
AAARRGH,

 I am trying so hard to learn about glass so number one MUST be Bohemian!
It looks like tortoiseshell, the foot is blown but pushed up in the middle and the rim ground flat, which I understand to be a characteristic of Bohemian because it was easy, as opposed to British, where vases had rounded rims.

Number two is a different kettle of fish.
 It is cased and white inside, then coloured and then cased clear. With a nearly flat foot.

They were not bought together, I just bought and bought and bought for years.

I think that number two is better quality overall.

I'm  glad you like it, please let me know what books you use.
R

paradisetrader:

--- Quote ---I am trying so hard to learn about glass so number one MUST be Bohemian!
--- End quote ---

Ouch ! I submit ! ....If you say so Ruth !!!


--- Quote ---the rim ground flat, which I understand to be a characteristic of Bohemian because it was easy, as opposed to British, where vases had rounded rims.
--- End quote ---

This is news to me .......could be correct for certain style and periods I guess but sounds like a dangerous assumption if taken too literally and applied too widely.
I don't think the Bohemian glassmasters did things because they were easy !!!  unless we are talikng only about long production runs for items made for the middle and lower end of the market ...perhaps.
Where did you get this info from Ruth ?

The layering of item 2 is quite easy to tell from the photo. It was the layering (inside color) of item #1 I was asking about.

Frank:
Your second piece is cased in clear glass which is why the base appears clear.

You cannot assume that cut and polished is easier, in fact it is another finishing step and adds to the production costs and requires additional skills. It is used by any glassworks to achieve a particular end result, regardless of the country of origin. Although you get some glassworks for whom cut an polished was the norm and others for whom the fire polished rim was the norm.

Finish is only part of the repertoire that is used to point to attribution and it is the combination of all the elements that gives attribution.

Design and unique techniques are the only way to attribute with any degree of certainty. However, particular glassmakers would tend to work in a particular way and would take their techniques from place to place and pass them on to their apprentices.

Copyists vary from those who make near perfect copies to those that copy the design but use their own technique. But a copyist is only a faker when they attempt to pass it off as made by the originator - if they sell it as there own work then they are making a tribute/homage to the originator. Of course the dealers can take the homage and turn it into a fake by attribution again :roll:

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