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70s colored ribboned Crystal Belgium? France?

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glasswizard:
I bought this over the weekend and really cannot decide the country of origin. Any help would be appreciated.
http://tinypic.com/b51s1e.jpg  Full view
http://tinypic.com/b51s9x.jpg  Base

It is apprx. 8 inches tall. The clear glass is very clear, like water and the base is ground and polished. All in all I think a very pretty vase. Thanks in advance. Terry

paradisetrader:
I used to think that anything in this gloupy style with multi colors was Czech (Chrbska) but I have now seen examples with Murano labels.  With this one, because you mention the quality of the clear crystal, I'm thinking maybe VSL or another of the lesser known but quality Belgian or French companies. Hopefully Ivo will have some ideas for you.

Ivo had previously suggested thses companies for good quality 70's crystal :
Art Vannes, Bayel, Boussu in addition to VSL non of which would normally be marked.
However he was not necessarily refering to this style of glass.

Any thoughts on this one Ivo ? (in case you missed this thread ....easy to do with the board being so busy these days)

Sklounion:
Paradisetrader wrote:

--- Quote ---Art Vannes, Bayel, Boussu in addition to VSL non of which would normally be marked.
--- End quote ---


I don't know about Boussu, but certainly the glass from Bayel and Vannes usually carries an acid-etched mark, and probably VSL as well.

Regards,

Marcus

Ivo:
VSL is not automatically marked or stamped. There are certain lines which were consistently engraved, but I've handled really large cut glass and gilt pieces (several kilos of ugliness) that had not a scratch of marking  I've never seen any of the lumpy fifties items signed.
I would think VSL is a most likely candidate, but I would not rule out Boussu either - the piece looks as Belgian as could be. And if you ask me am I sure, no I'm not - I've seen things like that produced in Murano, in Austria and in Canada - take your pick.
The French (Art Vannes, Bayel) were more consistent in acid stamping the production but a lot of it left the factories unmarked. They're also less likely to use multiple colours - i think.

glasswizard:
Amazing how one thing leads to another. I saw this pc. about two weeks ago at an auction and couldn't stay. Some friends bid for me and managed to get it. I just received it from them yesterday and on the bottom is a shield with Bayel France and a champagne glass. Until I saw the mark I had never heard of Bayel and here we are, discussing it and I have a piece at hand. Without the mark, my thoughts would have run to murano, or chalet. The clarity of the clear glass on both pcs. is outstanding. Terry  
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