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Signature N Orr '68 fox engraved goblet = Norman Orr Edinburgh crystal blank
Anne:
The only engraver I found called N. Orr is a Victorian one Max, http://web.uflib.ufl.edu/spec/manuscript/guides/Orr%20Family.htm#Engravings don't suppose this helps at all?! :roll:
chopin-liszt:
:D :? It seems odd to me that such a good engraver produces such a tacky looking signature....
Max:
--- Quote from: "Anne" ---The only engraver I found called N. Orr is a Victorian one Max:
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Thanks for looking Anne, I did find him a few days ago (got quite excited to begin with!) but I think he's a wood engraver, and he might have been a bit dead when this glass was made... :wink: xxx
Frank:
Trying to match the blank... using Replacements stemware guide.
It is unusual in that it has equal distance either side of the knob. The following are the closest I could find and the Bryce was the closest of all of these. Most of these are illustrated by line drawings only.
Val St Lambert "State Plain" (Similar from line drawing)
Royal Brierley (Close line drawing)
Reizart
Fostoria "6079"
Edinburgh Crystal
Denby
Bryce "949"
Is it machine made or hand-blown?
Max:
Wow! Frank, thank you for going to so much trouble! xx
I have to admit I don't really know what to look for in a handmade glass, so I can only surmise - what an embarassing thing to admit on the GMB! :oops:
There's no 'shear mark' underneath the foot where the pontil mark would be. I can't see any gadgets marks either, it's finished very smoothly underneath the foot.
The stem seems to be affixed to the bowl with a 'wafer' :?: The foot is exactly the same circumference as the top of the bowl. The bowl has an interesting 'optic rib', when viewed from certain angles, as if it's been spun out... :?
It's very heavy and quite cumbersome to handle, the top so far outweighs the stem and foot. Is there a special type of blank for this type of deep engraving?
Well...here's some more photos...perhaps they'll help?
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6506
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6505
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6504
Thanks again!
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