Topic: Really an Ysart crown?

[w84it]

Is this really an Ysart crown?   

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180304074712&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008

I've not come across one before.   

Or could it be a Murano?

[jamalpa36]

This is certainly an Ysart Crown. They are quite rare but There has been another on Ebay within the last couple of months

[RAY]

yep defo paul ysart made in the harland years

[Frank]

I wouldn't call them rare, they were the most commonly seen in the 80s/90s and one collector had dozens. Of course compared to some things they are not as common.

[jamalpa36]

You will find that the filigree canes used are also used to make Ysart snakes
The crowns are also made as magnums but these are very rare.

[w84it]

Thanks one and all.

Any information on the 'rectangular black label'?    Again, not something I'm familiar with.

[jamalpa36]

Both of my crowns have a white rectangular label with PY made in Scotland in Black print

I wonder if this is what the seller means

[KevinH]

Rarity of Paul Ysart Crown weights ... I don't have one in my collection, so they must be rare.

Actually, I have bd on several over the years but so far have not been the high bidder. There were several offered in the two-part "Parkington sale" at Christie's, London in 1997/8. Since then they appear occasionally in various auctions, through specialist dealers and in eBay.

I think there are probably more PY Crown weights from the Harland years (70s) than from either the 30s-50s or the 60s. The rarest may well be versions from the 1930s that have a very low dome, one of which is illustrated in the "Bergstrom book" and another I have personally viewed in a collection.

I agree that the label on the eBay one is most probably the white one with black letters. An example is shown in my artcile in Angela's Glass Musem (but note that my pic shows the label as a "patchy" blue - which is actually the colour of the weight showing through the label which has become thin through wear.

[jamalpa36]

The seller has put a photograph of the label on the item and as I suggested it is the standard PY Made in scotland White label not a black label.
 

[Frank]

For some reason that is not on the labels page of Ysart glass... will add it!