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Author Topic: cameo cut large vase, anyone know who made it?  (Read 2454 times)

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Offline KevinH

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Re: cameo cut large vase, anyone know who made it?
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2008, 08:23:14 PM »
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Maybe I'm being too pedantic - wouldn't be the first time!
Probably ;D, but as a pedant myself I understand the desire to "get things right". For example, I do wish that people in the paperweight world would stop assuming that "made by Ysart" clearly means "made by Paul Ysart" - but I have stopped trying to change the whole paperweight world and just accept that it was a term used for many years before I got into collecting anything.

Anyway ... the context of the quoted text re: "cameo engraving" and "intaglio engraving" is as an explanatory box (highlighted with grey background and black border) at the bottom of a single page of very brief comments in a section titled "Engraved Glass". In that respect, it seems to be a simplified way of describing the difference between "raised" and intaglio engraving.

The term "cameo engraving" is also used by silver engravers such as in this website.

I'm not saying the term is right or wrong, but is certainly also used outside of a glass context.
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Re: cameo cut large vase, anyone know who made it?
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2008, 09:56:41 PM »
Much modern glass that is sandblasted is also described as engraved and in some cases etched - with or without the sand prefix. Given the choice I would consider sand-engraved to be more accurate as it is a cutting process. Of course, sand is not used in the process any more. Cameo pieces can also be produced by sandblasting.

Making 'exact' redundant as far as terminology is concerned. although it is always good for lively discussions  :spls: that can end up containing a lot of information.

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Re: cameo cut large vase, anyone know who made it?
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2008, 10:24:04 PM »
There's also diamond point engraving.  Wheel, diamond point, and sandblasting all use abrasives to remove material; etching uses a chemical process.  That's the distinction according to Kristi's Personal Pendantic Book of Glass Terminology. ;D
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Re: cameo cut large vase, anyone know who made it?
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2008, 12:39:08 AM »
Mike, I hadn't really considered Harrach.. but I think I could buy that as a definite possibility.

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Re: cameo cut large vase, anyone know who made it?
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2008, 11:06:52 AM »
Wibble split off - you know when you've been Cafe'd! :)
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