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Offline Martyn K

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Re: engraved mouse...unsigned?
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2008, 12:00:30 PM »
A lot of engravers use Dartington blanks so without a signature very hard to trace and could even be a hobbyist.

Would be a skilled hobbyist IMHO.... Just to clarify the block this is engraved on is a unique shape with one 'natural' cleaved side and the other sides being cut and polished, it isn't cast like MJ or standard Dartington production blocks, but I guess Dartington and other glassworks do supply these sort of blanks to the trade/public. Shame they didn't sign it...Oh well.

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Re: engraved mouse...unsigned?
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2008, 12:42:29 PM »
The engraving is just like the one i saw same mouse same ear of corn ~ top quality ~ . on reflection i wish i had bought it. :thup:

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Re: engraved mouse...unsigned?
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2008, 01:39:17 PM »
Cheers JP...I never really doubted your memory...you and Nic say Dartington so that seems like the place to look. Much appreciated.

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Re: engraved mouse...unsigned?
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2008, 06:17:05 PM »
I agree, that would be quite skilled for a hobbyist.

How can one tell whether a piece is cast or not?
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Re: engraved mouse...unsigned?
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2008, 06:23:00 PM »
Well that one has been done on a piece of cullet . :thup:

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Re: engraved mouse...unsigned?
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2008, 08:31:14 PM »
I agree, that would be quite skilled for a hobbyist.

How can one tell whether a piece is cast or not?

Lots of odd shapes are made for engravers by various companies. Some hobbyists can have very highly developed skills, just no interest in trying to make a living - so they can spend a lot more time than a pro and achieve the finest quality. I was puzzled by a signed glass by a known Studio as it had excellent engraving but I had not known they did such work on their non-art production! On asking them, they said that one of their customers must have done the engraving and they had no idea who.

Cast and hand finished does not eliminate the fire surface of casting, although they sometimes get sandblasted to conceal that. Usually the hand finishing is just to add or refine details... enough to add the cachet of hand-made. I don't knock it as a second quality though, as it allows local glass workers/companies to compete in the gift/collectable trade.

But if the mouse is seen in multiples, then it is more likely to be a company or professional engraver.

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Re: engraved mouse...unsigned?
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2008, 10:53:27 PM »
I wasn't saying I didn't think it was a hobbyist...it's possible.

The finish left by casting - it that the pebbly effect that you see with some Jonasson pieces, like this one?  Couldn't that be pretty easily ground out, as long as one was engraving it anyway?  Some of his pieces don't have that texture.
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Re: engraved mouse...unsigned?
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2008, 12:49:22 AM »
I think they have a video or photos of the stages on their website.

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Re: engraved mouse...unsigned?
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2009, 09:12:22 PM »
What a cute little mouse, from the photo certainly looks drill engraved and pretty neatly too. It is always sad that work is not signed. How old is it?
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Re: engraved mouse...unsigned?
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2009, 09:42:42 PM »
Hi Lesley,

I've no idea how old it is, I would guess the last 30 years or so but suspect you would know much better than I.

A couple of little identifying initials would have been nice wouldn't they!...

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