christine - I wud not have offended you deliberately - I have enjoyed immensely our few exchanges on the GMB, and as you obviously know shed loads more about glass than me, then I apologise for my rather sharp - and sometimes slightly caustic sense of humour. Apparently people who meet me often don't know if I am joking or not.
I look forward to many more of your helpful answers to my glass queries. Hope we are still friends. :kissy:
I though for a moment Christine you were suggesting that Patricia looked better upside down

thanks to Patricia for the pics of bulbs and flowers - very educational to see the vase sizes and length of root systems. I seem to remember from my own days when I took some interest in propogation and gardening etc., that bulbs are either geo-tropic or photo-tropic i.e. whatever position you try to grow them in relation to light or the ground - they will always be influenced by their natural tendencies, cud this be the reason why Patricia had a high failure rate with the upside down ones recently.
I don't speak as an expert in anything - I've given up - its too wearing. Actually, I've almost forgotten how this thread started out - we have deviated so much!
cheers Paul S.