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Author Topic: Huge Japanese vase heavily etched and marked with characters and Seal  (Read 1598 times)

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Offline Ivo

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Re: Huge Japanese vase heavily etched and marked with characters and Seal
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2009, 10:01:09 PM »
Taiwan is most likely - it has a stunning glass industry... Try google The Grand and Heinrich Wang...

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Re: Huge Japanese vase heavily etched and marked with characters and Seal
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2009, 09:24:15 AM »
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Thanks to Ming we can be certain that it has come from Hong Kong or Taiwan.

I would have to disagree here, while there is the possibility it's from Hong Kong or Taiwan, there is no reason why it shouldn't have been produced on mainland China. Simplified characters were first introduced in 1958, the reform of the writing system being completed by 1962, so if the vase was produced in mainland China before this period it would feature non-simplified Hanzi.

Likewise China produces a large number of reproductions of historical items, both legitimate items and outright fakes. These typically feature non-simplified characters. Indeed most mainland Chinese can read non-simplified forms, even if they can't remember all the strokes to write them correctly and only a relative few of the thousands of Hanzi were ever simplified.

Regarding Heinrich Wang, the works by him which I have seen have been 'Liu-Li' type pate-de-verre/ pate-de crystal items, rather than blown vessels such as this. There are many many glass producers in China producing very fine pieces, similar in style and quality to Wang's work, but sadly western companies seem completely uninterested in importing any but the cheapest pieces of oriental glass. 

In my view, this vase does look more typically Mainland chinese. Closer photographs of the engraving and lettering may give clues to the date.

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Offline malwodyn

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We seem to be overlooking the possibility that this vase is quite old - possibly pre-war, in which case the use of simplified characters would be almost out of the question.  Furthermore, as Ming says, this was a gift from a pupil to his teacher, in which case formal characters would be likely to be used, and even if the craftsman who engraved the inscription was not particularly familiar with the traditional forms, he would have the written forms to copy. 

The same two characters would be read Hanzi in Chinese and Kanji in Japanese, so Ardy was not wrong when he identified the characters as Kanji  (Kanji just means "Chinese Characters" in Japanese...)


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The thing about this vase is the thickness of it. I dont think I have seen a vase this thick ever. Is this difficult to do?

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