Topic: Need Help Identifying Vase Please

[onlynsecret]

I know it isn't Moser because I emailed them directly and they said it was not their work.

Dear Kathy

Thank you for the bigger pictures which helped a lot.

Based on the detailed identification of these bigger pictures our
specialists think it is not Moser. It is Art Nouveau style. However as
we can see the detail of the engraved motif from bigger picture, we
assume it is not Moser. This motif does not correspond to Moser style.
It was probably made in some of the Bohemian glassworks, however we unfortunately do not know in which exactly.

Yours sincerely,

--

Jitka Storkanova
Customer Service
MOSER, a.s.

So we know what it isn't ... now to figure out what it is 

[obscurities]

Kathy,

Sometimes the elimination of companies one by one is the only path there, or close to there....

I have some opalescent mid century stemware I have been working on identifying for 5 years.... and I know everything in the world they are not... but not what they are!!

The great thing about an ID challenge like this, is all that you learn, while learning what the piece is not!!

Craig

[onlynsecret]

Thnx Craig ... I am quite new to this and am astounded by the depth of knowledge here.  I am also enjoying the hunt to figure it out, I just hope I hit the target before you  :24:

[krsilber]

There is a photo of a Harrach mark on this page that looks very similar:
Mod: Link removed as content changed to inappropriate site
Even has the two dots at the end.

I agree that Harrach's intaglio is found in variable depths.

From above site:

"Gary Baldwin has hit on what appears to be a positive ID method for Harrach Art Nouveau Marquerty and Intaglio work glass.  The Harrach pieces were typically marked with a letter followed by a number as seen above. "

Did no other Bohemian glasshouses mark their wares like this?

[obscurities]

Kathy, I have forwarded images of a couple of other vases to the Harrach Glass company. Jindrich was kind enough to provide a link. It did not have a direct email to the museum, so I sent it to another email within the company, and will see if they respond. If they do, I will copy a couple of your images to my desktop and forward them attached to another email and see if the museum will attribute them to Harrach or not. I will keep you posted as to my progress.

As to ingalio depth, I have gone on line and looked at the images of vases that appear on the Harrach project page I referenced for you, and their appears, at least in the images, to be varying intaglio depths showing there. In addition, I have also found a couple of attributions online which also show shallow Intaglio depths and include the same type of underside marking.

Although I think Mike has a valid point about Harrach blanks, because they sold them to a wide assortment of companies, I think I am going to stick, at least for the moment, with my original inclination to attribute it to Harrach. The underside mark, for one, bears too much resemblance to those shown on the Harrach project page. Although their are other companies that used the letter and number combination system. I find the use of the two dots after the number to be a little unusual, and possibly a unique identifier, especially in light of other similarities.

I will let you know if the Harrach company responds to my email regarding two other vases, which are completely different from this one,  that I believe to be by them.

You can see them here:  http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,26955.0.html

[onlynsecret]

Craig,
  I also saw your pieces and Jindrich's response earlier and took it upon myself to try that also since I see so many similarities with the examples on the Harrach Project site.  I am sure I did the same as you and just sent it to an anonymous office person but hopefully they will have the ability to get it to the right people.  Thank you for helping, it's really appreciated.
Kathy

[Mike M]

Hi

this site too gives good info on the harrach codes -don't think anyones mentioned it yet


http://sites.google.com/site/bohemianglassandmore/harrach-alpha-numberic-markings-de-constructed

cheers

Mike

[onlynsecret]

Thanks Mike .. I took a look at it and it's a great reference.  The search continues!   

[onlynsecret]

Craig,
    Wondering if you heard anything from Harrach?  I am still scratching my head over this.
Kathy

[obscurities]

I have not heard anything at all. Luckily at least one of mine was found in a book. I believe they are both Harrach.....  If I do hear, I will let you know a contact email.

Craig