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Author Topic: Lacy Glass Butter Dish Saint Louis or Baccarat ?  (Read 2045 times)

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Lacy Glass Butter Dish Saint Louis or Baccarat ?
« on: August 17, 2009, 07:27:41 PM »
A Lacy glass butter dish with under dish , the quality makes me think most likely French either Saint Louis or Baccarat , quality looks and feels very good although the thickness of the glass of the butter dish varies between 5mm and 9mm, not sure of the age , under a UV light it does glow a soft green, weight a heavy 982gm

Thanks for any information on this butter dish

Roy

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Re: Lacy Glass Butter Dish Saint Louis or Baccarat ?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2009, 04:39:34 AM »
Thought I try this one again thanks for any Id on this piece

Roy

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Re: Lacy Glass Butter Dish Saint Louis or Baccarat ?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2009, 09:33:45 AM »
Splendid find, Roy!  :chky: :mrgreen:
and well done the bump  ;D

http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Launay-Hautin-1840.20+B6YmFja1BJRD0yMCZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9ODE1JmRldGFpbD0_.0.html

Launay Hautin (dealer) 1840 # 2323 B = Baccarat

(missed your quest while away in August - sorry  :angel: )

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Re: Lacy Glass Butter Dish Saint Louis or Baccarat ?
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2009, 12:51:16 PM »
Pamela

Thank you very much for the link, quite a bit older than I first thought, can I ask what technique was made to make these early items were they blown into a mould which is why the quality appears to be a lot better than just pressed.

I found one of the other items on the link on plate 26 or 27 I new it was either missing a lid or base and from the pictures I assume it must have bee broke many many years ago and been polished .

The plate only came from a car boot but the quality does not look or feel good enough to be Baccarat



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Re: Lacy Glass Butter Dish Saint Louis or Baccarat ?
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2009, 02:37:01 PM »
Found a picture of the same plate in Raymond Notley Pressed Flint Glass where its is described as a lacy shallow cup plate, American about 1840, so may well be Sandwich Glass

Roy

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Re: Lacy Glass Butter Dish Saint Louis or Baccarat ?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2009, 08:54:44 PM »
Roy, why do you think of mould blown? Is the 'negative' pattern in the inside of the pot touchable? If smooth, must be plunger pressed same as the plate ?
Sablée like this: never seen blown in such accuracy  :huh:

Sandwich: interesting - thanks for the information
Have you also counted there the base pattern of 7 x 5 ?
Pamela
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Re: Lacy Glass Butter Dish Saint Louis or Baccarat ?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2009, 09:43:43 PM »
Pamela your right just pressed, I think there technique must have been far superior to other pressed glass manufacturers of the same age, I have had other examples of American lacy salts and they were not of high quality.
Also I found a similar item of American lacy glass to the Baccarat describing it as a Honey Dish

Roy

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Re: Lacy Glass Butter Dish Saint Louis or Baccarat ?
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2009, 08:47:22 PM »
Roy, thank you for the perfect pictures  :kissy:
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/deckeldosen/09247.html
Pamela
Die Erfahrung lehrt, dass, wer auf irgendeinem Gebiet zu sammeln anfängt, eine Wandlung in seiner Seele anheben spürt. Er wird ein freudiger Mensch, den eine tiefere Teilnahme erfüllt, und ein offeneres Verständnis für die Dinge dieser Welt bewegt seine Seele.
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