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Author Topic: Green ale or jelly glass?  (Read 941 times)

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Offline keith

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Green ale or jelly glass?
« on: August 20, 2009, 03:38:26 PM »
Could someone tell me if this is a jelly or ale glass,the dealer claimed it to be around 1780 it does look genuine to me (but I'm still learning)ta,Keith.

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Re: Another old English expert required...
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2009, 04:09:12 PM »
To me it does not look too optimistic for old glass... even if it has tons of wear and a broken pontil. The thickness is not right, the colour is too modern, the quality of the glass is too high and the shape is too modern. Offhand I'd say Gordiola or Empoli - but other people may have other ideas.

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Re: Another old English expert required...
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2009, 09:37:02 AM »
HI,
           it doesnt look like an 18thc example to me , it seems to be a mixture of forms , the foot looks like a firing glass ,the stem looks mid 19th at the very earliest, and the colour looks modern , the wear on the foot looks to have been artificially added as it is very bright , as if it has just occured, but to answer your question ale or jelly , it is trying to be a jelly glass from the overall form .

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Re: Another old English expert required...
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2009, 07:44:29 PM »
Hi

Colour, construction, tooling; all not quite right for late 18th/early 19th C. Looks more like a jelly than ale; and as such would be exceptionally rare. I've never seen a coloured jelly; and if the dealer asked for <£200 then he didn't think it was right either.

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Re: Another old English expert required...
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2009, 08:07:21 PM »
Thanks for all the comments,info etc..question is what is it then,the age marks appear quite genuine,didn't pay much at all, just want to know where and when it's from,Keith

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Re: Another old English expert required...
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2009, 10:27:32 PM »
Sorry Keith. Can't help any further than what I've already said really. My interest lies in period glass and if it isn't; then I don't really delve too much further. What I can tell you is that there was a Georgian revival period in the 1920's/30s across a lot of disciplines; to include glass. Many 'Georgian' style glasses were reproduced then; including a vast amount of coloured glass, some of which never had coloured variants originally. It could come from that period.

Trev.

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Re: Another old English expert required...
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2009, 12:14:59 AM »
I think this is what is known as tourist ware.

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Re: Another old English expert required...
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2009, 02:45:23 PM »
Thanks for the replies,what do you think to my other post 'Old English expert required' about the sweetmeat bowl,do you agree with the other comments?Keith

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