Topic: This one has my heart racing - Bohemian? - ID = Kralik ca. 1900.

[obscurities]

I guess what I am seeing is a disc of Paper or cushion of some kind between the metal and the glass on both the top and the bottom of the glass?  The hole is smaller than I thought, as it looked quite large in the one pic. The base is probably original to the piece.   

Max: This is a pretty typical type of nut which is holding the metal and glass together...   
Craig

[Cathy B]

The stands were possibly provided by the retailers?

[Ohio]

Just so happens that I know a lady that has the twin to mine (well close anyway) & I had her take a few shots. She inherited hers from her Aunt who traveled europe over the years in the 50's & her Aunt bought hers in Austria, but thats all she knows. Different stand & its marked 4351-5H so evidently there were multiple stands that could be used. Ken

[Ron]

Dave Peterson (mrvaselineglass) stated on another board that he believes the crimped hobnail-like bumps were most likely made by Loetz:

http://forums.ebay.com/db2/topic/Pottery-Glass-Porcelain/Please-Help-To/520076086&#msg521629486

"I have also recently put "2-and-2" together and have figured out where all of the JIP pieces and other bowls were made that have that little bumpy pattern that is uniform in size. This is 1880s LOETZ from Bohemia. I recently saw on ebay a bride's basket that was such a color configuration that was only made by LOETZ, and it had these little bumpies in the same pattern."

http://forums.ebay.com/db2/topic/Pottery-Glass-Porcelain/Unusual-Colored-Glass/520099725&#msg522082149

"My next 'ah-ha' moment was when I saw one of these bowls (same base, same milk glass underside, same rough-ground pontil) that had all the same attributes, AND the controlled bumpy pattern that is done with a crimping machine. (uniform pattern, not done by hand). I have never seen anyone before make this leap to that particular style of crimping with the controlled bumps, but they are frequently seen on JIP vases (more so than bowls). It is my very strong belief that Loetz was the only one doing this. It was their 'thing'. I have never seen anyone attribute those bumps to any glassmaker, so I am sticking my neck out and say that it is 'most likely' Loetz, based on how the glass is constructed and not having any other person ever come up with anything else."

[Ohio]

Afraid I'd have to respectfully offer another viewpoint with that statement when it comes to JIP vases that Loetz was the only one doing that (crimps, bumps, milk glass base, rough pontil etc.) because its well documented in knowledgable art glass circles that Boston & Sandwich Glass JIPs shared these characteristics. You can find these examples throughout the US although more so in the NE area. Examples are listed in B&S references as well as a couple of on line websites. I have three known color combos...all B&S. Bowls are another matter though. Ken

[obscurities]

I emailed a couple of these images, the original bowl and the green bowl to Alfredo and he has confirmed that these are Kralik ca. 1900.

Craig

[glassobsessed]

Craig, thank you very much.  :angel:  And my thanks to Alfredo too.

John

[uphoosier]

Thanks to all for the comments.  Amazing how if you discuss a subject long enough, it comes full circle

[malwodyn]

Looking at the first photograph posted, it seems to me that the stand is made of cast iron; am I correct?

I have seen decorative ceramic bases for oil lamps that seem to have been made to a "common" specification by different manufacturers - is it too much to suppose that a manufacturer of glass bowls would have in mind stands or bases made by a range of different companies in the region?

[obscurities]

I do not think we know for sure, at this point, if the glass was made for a metal manufacturer, or if the metal was brought in by the glass house..... or if both situations ocurred. It has also been suggested here that possibly the retailers, or I'll suggest exporters also, made the final marriage of metal and glass.

Craig