Topic: Murano Sommerso Vase?

[Lustrousstone]

I agree with Craig but would add that it could be modern Czech or Polish, and the quality looks good. The trouble with hot worked glass is that these simple, elegant designs are easy to rework and saleable. There is no intention to deceive.

The bevelled edge does not rule out Murano, vintage or otherwise. I have a labelled Murano piece in red and green uranium that sounds a bit like yours except mine has a handle. The bevelled edge is often an indicator of quality, although it's lack is not necessarily an indicator of lack of quality.  IYSWIM  It's another expense in the production process.

[johnphilip]

Yes sorry,  Maplins sell a nice UV strip light for under twenty pounds . :thup:

[obscurities]

Regarding the beveled edge, My own experience is that they are not very common and the only pieces I have personally observed them on are newer. I would also add that I am referring to non geometric pieces. I venture to say that you guys across the pond see a much greater variety of this type of glass than I do in Seattle....  so my experience may simply be limited by geography.....

They have always struck me as a portion of work that was done to clean up something unwanted.  On a piece such as this with an organic form and completely curvilinear lines, it seems a geometric detail which in the whole design of the piece is out of place.  None of the pieces I have with curvilinear lines and ground bottoms have a beveled bottom edge on them, but all of the geometric pieces do.

Craig

[langhaugh]

I've spent a few minutes looking at pieces, bevelled and non-bevelled (I think I have also heard chamferred used), and I can seldom tell by looking at the piece on display whether or not it's bevelled. I'm not convinced it's an aesthetic issue, but rather a practical one. The bevelled edge reduces the chances of the edge being chipped.

David

[obscurities]

The bevelled edge reduces the chances of the edge being chipped.

That makes sense to me.... especially on the bottom edge where it will be set down when it is moved.
Based on that, I would then think that it would be found more on pieces with steep vertical sides like this vase, as opposed to for example, a bowl....

It now actually makes more sense as a functional detail than a cosmetic one.....

Craig

[Lustrousstone]

Both these pieces have beautifully bevelled bottom edges. I also have a bowl sort of thingy that has and two that don't.

[Tinker-Taylor]

Standing by for ethics opinions.  I would be starting it at 50p!

Bought a little key fob UV light (which is made in China) today... seems the only UV reactive item in my house is my cat's eyes.     Sigh.

[Cathy B]

Sigh. I wouldn't say 'probably Murano'.  Either hold on to it until you get a better fix on the identification, or take stunning pictures of it and just sell it as a nice vase, pointing out the bevelling. :kissy:

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[Lustrousstone]

Murano hmm 

[Max]

I note that you have this vase listed on ebay as 'Murano Sommerso' and I wondered what fresh and conclusive evidence you have, given your strong and vocal stance on such matters? 

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